Where is the ethic?

I feel the same as you. I understand a young girl have a crush in a older man, but I have trouble to accept a older man having sex with a minor.

What shocked me the most was the behavior of everyone in the room when ginger told everything. I think I would like to kill Roland on that very instant. Rosa's mom was calmed for the situation.. how could they stay calmed?!

The fact of the relationship of a 40s man with a 16 year old teenager being immoral is the whole point of that storyline. Of course Roland's actions were completely wrong and he destroyed his family with it.

Roland was a typical hypocrite. He said all the right things, but did all the wrong things. That was a typical problem of many left-wing activists of that time.

If by "stupid" you mean "unbelievable", well these things do happen - a teacher was jailed recently for having sexual relations with a 15-year-old pupil:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23004956

Your thread title and comments suggest that not only do you utterly miss the point of this particular movie but that you seem to have no idea what the dramatic arts are all about in general. "Where is the ethic?" Seriously? This is the most moral of films. Dramatically, the ethic is in the portrayal of a realistic, believable familial conflict involving recognizable people doing - yes, absolutely - "stupid", selfish things that harm themselves and those they love. You know, like real people do in real life. That's what good art does, it's holds that mirror up to nature.

In the film two things are happening - the larger story is about how the people running the world - the leaders who are supposed to be looking out for the rest of us - have, stupidly and selfishly, literally brought us to the brink of annihilation with nuclear arms proliferation and the Cuban Missile Crisis. The smaller, more intimate story is about a family that is in crisis because of the stupid and/or selfish acts of the adults who are supposed to be looking out for their children. All the adults have their own reasons and justifications for their behavior and some even make perfect sense, yet both Ginger and Rosa are practically destroyed by the irresponsibility and selfishness of those whom they have to trust and depend upon.

The larger and smaller stories reflect each other - Nuclear proliferation is done in the name of peace while Ginger's father Roland is a conscientious objector who refused to fight Hitler in the name of peace. Both are valid truths, yet our leaders were about to destroy much of the the world. And if we hadn't fought and defeated Hitler he would have, in a very real sense, destroyed much of the world.

The film goes even deeper into the psychological motivations for such self-destructive behavior. One motivation we can assuredly tag to politicians is the need for power, even in the most moral man and certainly in the immoral. It's also no stretch to see Roland's seduction of, rather than an adult, the child Rosa, as being driven by a similar need for power and control, rationalized and justified by his pov of that he can help her grow, as if he really cares about her and he's looking out for her needs rather than his own.

Good drama is not meant to be pretty, or logical, or even to present solutions to the problematic issues it portrays, rather it is meant to reflect human behavior and the human condition in both all its ugliness and all its beauty.

I tried to watch the whole movie. But, I was over ruled. I tried to watch despite the fact that I saw the plot coming a mile away. The movie was slow paced and predictable. It could have actually been a good movie. But, it was destroyed by all these little snippets that had nothing to do with anything. I don't know how they took a story that had a back drop of a missal crisis and turned it into this tripe.

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The only sense I can make of it, is that the entire time Ginger speaks of the world coming to an end, her entire world was her friendship with Rosa. Once she found out that Rosa slept with her dad and was pregnant and was literally the end of the world for her, as she knows it. It was the worst thing that couldve happened, its not what she expected (a nuclear bomb) but it might as well have been

"You're watching too much Sopranos, when you give your kids their allowance in envelopes"

What did you want, someone to pop in at the end and say "this is wrong, guys, don't do it"? It's a slice of life movie done in a realistic style and these things happen. We don't need a moral message because everyone watching should be able to work it out for themselves.

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