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Maybe it's me but the rest of them were frauds too

posted 9 years ago by ohtruethat
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I live in NYC and I was down at ground zero the day after it happened. I would never in a million years call myself a "Survivor" of 911 if I wasn't actually in the building when it happened.

I get that they are traumatized by what they saw, but I'm sorry, watching the buildings collapse on your balcony 5 blocks away is not what I would call a "911 Survivor" Nor is being on the street and running away as the second plane hit, nor is it being a volunteer the week after it happened because you saw it from your apartment several blocks away.

I mean seriously, no wonder she didn't feel like she was doing anything wrong. NONE OF THEM were actual survivors.

What a bunch of manipulative liars. She was the best among them but they were all a bunch of frauds.

Read the link below

http://www.survivorsnet.org/officers.html

Linda Gormley is the worst, making jokes about the planes and the US Open. Actually that's not a friggin' joke. They always rerout the planes over the courts during the week of the US Open and I personally had to deal with terrified senior citizens living in the towers in Flushing that were unnerved by the planes flying so differently.

Then you see her telling a group of people that this is how she is "healing" and "she's found a purpose in her life" and she's sharing her survival with the people in the street on tours.

HELLO? The definition of a survivor is someone who was actually in danger of being harmed in the first place. Not someone who ran away in time.

These people were WITNESSES not survivors and they liked her because she validated their stories as just as much a survival story as her supposed story. Probably true survivors rolled their eyes at them or didn't want to deal with their emotional whining. She gave them a legitimacy that no one else would have.

[–] kittykittymeowmeow19 9 years ago

Gerry Bogaecz (forgot the spelling) was actually in the tower. 3 people next to him died. I think the bald guy was inside there too...

[–] raymondunc 9 years ago

by ohtruethat» I would never in a million years call myself a "Survivor" of 911 if I wasn't actually in the building when it happened.

I think I do get your point. However some might see your definition of a survivor a little narrow. I think you have to look at who are the bulk of the people affected and to what degree they were affected.

I completely agree the people who were in the building at the time of the crashes and lived to talk about it are survivors by anyone's standard. However, people in less danger were also hurt and traumatized by this event. Those people are not lying, just different in degree from your position on the semantics of who qualifies as a survivor.

The woman who wasn't there is even more of a complicated issue. How far down the list of possible survivors does one reasonable go? I think it is obvious this incident triggered the full on slot of a major mental illness this woman had otherwise kept in check. She did cross lines society doesn't generally accept, but I don't think she set out to hurt anyone.

So, depending on semantics, she can be seen as a survivor as well as she continues to function after what appears to have been a hardship on her. And depending on semantics, only those in the building and lived are survivors. Or somewhere in between the two ends.

Just throwing out other possible ways some might view something that was very horrific to many.

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[–] DarthBotto 8 years ago

There were a few people interviewed in the film who were directly inside the buildings during the incident. But yeah, there have certainly been many cases of people just having a vague association with the event that only use it for feeling like a part of a community, even if it's none of their business.

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