Pine is a softwood


It drives me nuts every time Nicole calls a pine floor a "hardwood floor."

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You're right.

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They've done that on a lot of these types of shows, just saw it on some house flipping show in Texas. Totally stupid.


If it doesn't drop it's leaves in the fall, it's not a hardwood. If it has needles it's not a *beep* hardwood. very annoying stuff.

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Yes, pine floors are more properly addressed as simply 'wood floors' lol.

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I'm not a construction expert, but aren't there different varieties of pine? Like yellow pine in the South, isn't that considered a hardwood?

Nicole usually exposes white pine floors during her rehabs, so you guys are right about that. But I thought that there are different kinds of pine - some soft, some hard. Older homes may have varieties of old growth pine that aren't available anymore.

I'd hate to see people rip out old floors or lay new wood over them because they think all pine is weak, soft flooring.

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No, all pines are softwood. As another poster noted, the easiest way to tell the difference is by the tree: If it has broad leaves that drop in the fall, its a hardwood. If it has needles that stay on year-round, its a softwood. There are other distinctions that are a quick google search away.

Interestingly, the actual "hardness" of the board has nothing to do with it. Balsa is a hardwood. Go figure.

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Pine is a soft wood now. Because it is fast growth pine, but 50 to 100 years ago pine wood, slow growth and old wood was a lot harder and much more durable.
If you can get a hold of old pine (re-use) it will last longer in any use than new stuff.
Been there, done that.




Ephemeron.

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