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PLOT SUMMARY IS CRAP!!


Jenn and Matt are best friends from college who are now in their thirties. Single by choice, Jenn spends her days teaching hot yoga and running errands for her boss. Matt suffers from comic-book writer's block and can't get over his ex-boyfriend. They decide to fulfill a youthful promise to have a child together... the old fashioned way. Can they navigate the serious and unexpected snags they hit as they attempt to get their careers and dating lives back on track in preparation for parenthood? 'Gayby' is an irreverent comedy about friendship growing older, sex, loneliness, and the family you choose. Written by Anonymous


I AM SO SICK OF THE WAY PEOPLE STILL VIEW 30 THIS DAY IN AGE!! THIS SUMMARY MADE IT SOUND LIKE THE COUPLE IN THIS MOVIE WERE BECOMING SENIOR CITIZENS AND ABOUT TO BE COMMITED TO THE OLD FOLKS HOME!! THIS IS 2012 PEOPLE, 30S IS VERY YOUNG THESE DAYS.

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"I AM SO SICK OF THE WAY PEOPLE STILL VIEW 30 THIS DAY IN AGE!! THIS SUMMARY MADE IT SOUND LIKE THE COUPLE IN THIS MOVIE WERE BECOMING SENIOR CITIZENS AND ABOUT TO BE COMMITED TO THE OLD FOLKS HOME!! THIS IS 2012 PEOPLE, 30S IS VERY YOUNG THESE DAYS."..HA yeah i just read the plo myself it sounds very silly and its like you said .30 is not the new 50 :/

"You are the imagination of yourself"-bill hicks

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it's not very safe for women to have babies in their 40's. so yeah, by their 30's they should get cracking with the baby making

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it's not very safe for women to have babies in their 40's. so yeah, by their 30's they should get cracking with the baby making


Times are changing. Welcome to the 21st century.

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They are... but your biology isn't changing. At least not in that way. The ideal time for a woman to give birth is 20-30, and from then on it gets more and more dangerous. By the time you are 40, the risks of harm to the baby, especially birth defects and autism, are so risky that I kind of question those who purposefully try to have a child at that age. For men, it's the same with the sperm, but men don't really have to even being to worry about their sperm until their 40.

Short version is, it's not about social attitudes... it's about your own biology. Anyone with a 5th grade knowledge of basic biology would understand why a woman in her 30s would start getting anxious about her biological clock.

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Times are changing because there are better treatments and drugs, and new breakthroughs are coming out all the time. In the Biblical times you were expected to be married with child before 20 or you were considered an old maid. People are living longer today. How hard is that for you to grasp? Many women have children in their 30 and many more are having them in their 40s today.

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Times are changing because there are better treatments and drugs, and new breakthroughs are coming out all the time. In the Biblical times you were expected to be married with child before 20 or you were considered an old maid. People are living longer today. How hard is that for you to grasp? Many women have children in their 30 and many more are having them in their 40s today.


I second that. We need to move out of the 1950s and into the 21st century.

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We have. Your uterus is just working on its own timetable regardless of evolving social attitudes.

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I second that. We need to move out of the 1950s and into the 21st century.


At one time the 1950's was the future. You're old. You should have had babies by now. 31 is old.

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At one time the 1950's was the future. You're old. You should have had babies by now. 31 is old.


WTF? Shut-up! You have no clue as to what you are talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_adult_(psychology)

"A young adult, according to Erik Erikson's stages of human development, is generally a person in the age range of 20 to 40"

Now beat it, troll.

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I know this is an old post, but I had to make a comment on this.

Women having babies in their 40s is risky. Simple. There's a higher chance of birth defects, the primary one being Down's syndrome. The risk is far higher as women age, and nothing that science has accomplished changes that. The only thing that could be done is terminating the pregnancy.

Many other tests require an amniocentesis, which itself is a major risk and can cause possible complications and has the potential to induce a miscarriage.

Simply put, having a baby over 35 is a risk process and can lead to who knows what. Sometimes it's a simple as ending up with twins, which happened to us as my wife was 36 when she got pregnant and the cell walls weaken as you get older which can increase the chance of having multiples. As well, the older we are the worse shape our bodies are in. Maybe you'll be super healthy and a perfect candidate, but there's a much higher risk of NOT being super healthy.

So, no matter how you slice it, a woman having a baby over the age of 35 has a higher risk of complications, health problems during and after pregnancy, and the potential for serious disorders affecting the fetus.

Are there more people having babies at older ages these days? Of course, our lives run on a very different level than they did in the 50s so it's often not feasible to have kids in your 20s or early 30s. Does that change our fragile physiology and the risks involved with getting pregnant? No. Just because we have a better system to test doesn't mean we have developed a way to reverse the aging process on our reproductive organs. Women have a finite number of eggs, it's as simple as that.

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Very true. Much research has shown that trying to conceive a baby after 35, for example, has been correlated with children having social/mental/physical disabilities and are at higher risk for mental illnesses and debilitating disorders and biological and biosocial illnesses. Further even, are higher at-risks factors linked with age and having women suffer from stillborn or miscarriage. Compounded are sociological factors that have also been linked to and contribute – "in this day and age" – to issues of debilitating issues, particularly as a result of overworking and socioeconomic issues. Nevertheless, notwithstanding, regardless of whether or not our technologies have advanced in the medical field, our bodies – both men and women – have not changed much. In fact, I have theorized that our bodies may have worsened over the years due in part to sociological stress and socioeconomic factors, coupled with the foods we eat, in addition to the fewer hours we sleep in today's society (2000-2013) when compared with that of even thirty years prior. Fewer hours in sleep in the long-term increase the risk of a myriad of debilitating disorders, which can and do put increased pressure in the conception of a child.

-CDM

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I'm sorry, but who exactly are you and what or who exactly are you basing this research off of?

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Very true. Much research has shown that trying to conceive a baby after 35, for example, has been correlated with children having social/mental/physical disabilities and are at higher risk for mental illnesses and debilitating disorders and biological and biosocial illnesses. Further even, are higher at-risks factors linked with age and having women suffer from stillborn or miscarriage. Compounded are sociological factors that have also been linked to and contribute – "in this day and age" – to issues of debilitating issues, particularly as a result of overworking and socioeconomic issues. Nevertheless, notwithstanding, regardless of whether or not our technologies have advanced in the medical field, our bodies – both men and women – have not changed much. In fact, I have theorized that our bodies may have worsened over the years due in part to sociological stress and socioeconomic factors, coupled with the foods we eat, in addition to the fewer hours we sleep in today's society (2000-2013) when compared with that of even thirty years prior. Fewer hours in sleep in the long-term increase the risk of a myriad of debilitating disorders, which can and do put increased pressure in the conception of a child.


Yes I am very curious as to where you came up with this crap as well?? The last part in particular. Who the hell are you anyway? Are you some scientist or something?? I don't think you are anybody but some idiot posting on IMDb. If anything people have become much more health conscious in the last 30 years. People are worrying about getting older much earlier and taking steps to prolong their lives and keep their health in check at much earlier times in their lives. People are working out more and eating better. If there is any problem it is still a problem with food, lack of exercise, and unhealthy eating, which still exists despite more promising figures. Hopefully this improves. There are still issues out there, but you can't deny it is getting better.


BTW, do you really think reproduction is the most important thing out there?? The world is overpopulated enough as it is. Lets stop this and start concentrating on bettering those already here.



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I am sorry, what? You post: " Are you some scientist or something?? I don't think you are anybody but some idiot posting on IMDb" (so, my post warrants that I would be some "scientist," yet also warrants my being some "idiot posting on IMDB" LOL). And what is this (LOL): "If anything people have become much more health conscious in the last 30 years. People are worrying about getting older much earlier and taking steps to prolong their lives and keep their health in check at much earlier times in their lives. People are working out more and eating better." Yet, go on to state: "If there is any problem [which there clearly is if you would just open the myriad of studies on child obesity and adult obesity and early onset of diabetes] it is still a problem with food, lack of exercise, and unhealthy eating, which still exists despite more promising figures. Hopefully this improves. There are still issues out there, but you can't deny it is getting better." - Pretty counterintuitive, would you not think? Lastly, If you read carefully the initial post, I am not referring to people taking "preventive steps," which are [emphasis added] essential to keeping healthy. I am speaking of our bodies biological mechanisms. For instance, you can keep healthy all you want and work out every day, but still be obese. All the preventive factors (e.g., working out, eating right, etc.) are there so why would such a person be excessively obese? Reason? - having a thyroid issue. Further, eith regard to the initial post: I was referring to our biological clocks; to which no "preventive methods" or "change of lifestyle" can keep you from. And, I was also referring to genetic factors and biological factors. Mental illnesses, social and developmental learning disabilities, even some forms of cancer and diabetes, and, as recent research illistrates, some types of criminal delinquency are passed down generationally. These at-risk factors, among others, increase with age in the conception of children. I honestly do not know how the idea can escape you (Do you think that when you visit a new doctor and they ask you for a family history of mental illnesses, substance abuse, and other health-related issues is just for fun?) – just by reading any recent extant research childbearing at-risk factors or related can tell you a great deal; that women conceiving over the age of 30 or 35 are more at-risk of their children developing health illneses or social and behavioral (criminogenic) and developmental disorders, such as dyslexia. And what is with all this "who the H**l are you and other? I guess, intellectual discourse among others - albeit under a silly movie, but enjoyable - and simple manners and respect no longer exist. In sum, just because our technologies have advanced exponentially, does not mean our bodies have. Proper diet and exercise over the years is fundamentally essential to the progress of healthier generations. However, this takes, as stated, generations in doing so and consistently. Here is another example of such differences in physical progress of the human body. African-Americans – specifically African-Americans – were subjected for many decades to extreme labors. As a result of these extreme laborers, their bodies were formed differently than that of someone, for example, that would not do any physical labor. I am speaking, of course, of muscle mass. This is why, African-Americans tend to be; due to the many decades of consistent labor and physical duress; naturally muscular. Even further, as is the case with underdeveloped countries becoming developed countries, because of their consistently unhealthy living conditions, when put in more substantially more healthy living environments, they tend to be less prone to diseases, mental health issues, and other learning disabilities, this is unlike that of caucasian Americans. I will stop here, I am not trying to write up more research or go into further detail than what is needed for a post. Perhaps those that question should read, be up-to-date and make logical inferences. The main reasoning for this thread, however, is the question of: is it less risky, in the long term for the child's mental (e.g., emotional, psychological and sociological and physical development) for a female to have a child at 19 or 25 than it is for a female of 35 or 40? Go to your local doctor, ask them, is there such thing as a "biological clock" in trying to give conceive a child?
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-CDM

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Here, may be this "more simple" website can help! I honestly was not going to provide anything, and providing a link to many academic studies might just be over your head. Therefore, I just typed in something simple and clicked on the first thing. Have fun:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/pregnancy/PR00115

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Here, may be this "more simple" website can help! I honestly was not going to provide anything, and providing a link to many academic studies might just be over your head. Therefore, I just typed in something simple and clicked on the first thing. Have fun:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/pregnancy/PR00115

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You do know that average life expectancies have gone up right? Back in the medieval times it was dangerous to have a child at 20+. Most children did not live to adulthood. Times change and lifespans go up. Since you seem to think 30s is so old may I ask how old you are?? The links you gave me was mainly for people in their late 30s and early 40s BTW and it didn't say it was impossible. The average menopause age is late 40s BTW:

http://www.nia.nih.gov/health/publication/menopause

"The average age of a woman having her last period, menopause, is 51. But, some women have their last period in their forties, and some have it later in their fifties. Smoking can lead to early menopause. So can some types of operations. For example, surgery to remove your uterus (called a hysterectomy) will make your periods stop, and that's menopause. But you might not have menopause symptoms like hot flashes right then because if your ovaries are untouched, they still make hormones. In time, when your ovaries start to make less estrogen, menopause symptoms could start. But, sometimes both ovaries are removed (called an oophorectomy), usually along with your uterus. That's menopause too. In this case, menopause symptoms can start right away, no matter what age you are, because your body has lost its main supply of estrogen."

BTW, do you really think having children is so important anyway? I'm not being mean, I am just asking you.

BTW I am just curious as to your expertise in this? Do you have any degrees, etc? Just curiousity.

Here is another link BTW:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/04/22/pregnancy.over.40/index.html

BTW I am talking about people in their 30s here(typical child-rearing age)not 40s. I know the risks after 40.

Oh and if you work out and eat right you are more unlikely to be obese. You are right, you can still be obese, but it is less likely if you take better care of yourself. You can also eat a lot and never exercise and be skinny. It just depends on the person.

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http://news.sky.com/story/1054379/ivf-treatment-for-older-women-on-the -nhs

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/feb/20/health-service-fund-ivf

BTW I am sorry if I sounded hateful at first. As I said below, having kids is not the most important thing anyway(it should be anyway). The world is overpopulated enough and we need to concentrate more on bettering those already here instead of adding more to it.

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When the man is over 30 when fathering or sperm donating the baby is more likely to be autistic or schizophrenic.

Censorship is advertising paid by the government.

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When the man is over 30 when fathering or sperm donating the baby is more likely to be autistic or schizophrenic.


And where exactly did you get that idea at???? Based on my personal experiences and my being in touch with reality I know you are full of *beep*




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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/health/fathers-age-is-linked-to-risk -of-autism-and-schizophrenia.html

In case you can't get past the paywall, here are some highlights:


Older men are more likely than young ones to father a child who develops autism or schizophrenia, because of random mutations that become more numerous with advancing paternal age

The findings also counter the longstanding assumption that the age of the mother is the most important factor in determining the odds of a child having developmental problems.

The research team found that the average child born to a 20-year-old father had 25 random mutations that could be traced to paternal genetic material. The number increased steadily by two mutations a year, reaching 65 mutations for offspring of 40-year-old men.

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Yes, 30s is quite young, but the summary doesn't suggest otherwise to me. Certainly nothing like you suggested.

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op- Age is a state of mind. Age is how we present ourselves to other people people, and their impression of us. Attaching any importance whatsoever to the number is quite old fashioned.

Unfortunately, the impression yuou gave me with your silly rant and obnoxious use of caps lock is that you tend to stand on your front porch an awful lot in black socks and sandals, bermuda shorts hiked up well above your waistline, brandishing your cane in a liver-spotted claw and yelling at kids to "get off my lawn!".

"In a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell

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op- Age is a state of mind. Age is how we present ourselves to other people people, and their impression of us. Attaching any importance whatsoever to the number is quite old fashioned.


You are talking to me like I am 80 years old. I am 31, I am very young by today's standards. Join the 21st century. This isn't 1950.

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op- I wasn't talking to you because I, as an enlightened 21st century poster, could tell by your obnoxious use of capslock, that any reply I gave would only be typing at you. You don't want to be an 80 year old throwing a porch tantrum, then consider yourself an eight year old throwing a temper tantrum. Either one works for me, but as I type this, I realize that the eight year old angle is probably more apropos, considering that an adult reaction would have been to submit a plot summary that you consider "not crap", and if the IMDb admins agree, they will apply the edit.


"In a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell

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You might only have a year to live. Accident, illness, murder. 31 might be as old you will ever be. If you had sorted out having a family at 21 you would have left something behind. Instead you say 31 is young by today's standards. You're the type of person who will be saying 50 is the new 30 one day, and still have made no meaningful decisions in your life because you're too busy saying you're young. 31 is old.

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Instead you say 31 is young by today's standards. You're the type of person who will be saying 50 is the new 30 one day, and still have made no meaningful decisions in your life because you're too busy saying you're young. 31 is old.


Actually it never was old. It is younger today because people are living longer. Who are you to dictate what is old and young anyway? How old are you out of curiosity?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_adult_(psychology)

"A young adult, according to Erik Erikson's stages of human development, is generally a person in the age range of 20 to 40."



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A lot of women are freezing their eggs early in life so if they get past 35 or so they can still have a healthy baby. Also some women's biological clock to have a baby starts decreasing after the age of 25. My aunt and uncle who are both 50, adopted a little boy and he is now 8. They had both wanted a baby but my aunt was unable to conceive. My uncle is terrified that he's not going to be there for my cousin when he gets married or has kids. And I kind of agree with him. My parents had me in their mid thirties and they both have some regrets because we are not as close as we could be because of our age difference. But lots of people live extremely happy life's having kids in their 40's so it might just be in my family with those opinions.

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Well with higher life expectancies I can't see why he can't be? That also depends on how well he takes care of himself.

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30 isn't as old as it used to be with longer life expectencies, but unless there's been genetic engineering I haven't heard of, child bearing becomes more dangerous the further you go over age 30.


Actually that is 40. In fact menopause happens after about 45, not 30s.

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I mean we can barely take care of our own who are already here. Our world is overpopulated enough!! There are wars, diseases, global warming, poverty, starvation, and all sorts of other misery and miserable people in this world. Lets start concentrating more on the betterment of the world and those who are already here instead of bringing more people into the world to worry about.

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watch the first 20 minutes of Mike Judge's film IDIOCRACY. yes, the world is overpopulated, but if a few of us intelligent people don't get into babymaking asap, we're all screwed. darwin, for all his flaws, makes a point in that the fittest do survive (which, I believe, is not an actual darwin quote! lol). and "fit" doesn't always mean physically strong. and, do the math, one child per two people is still negative population growth.

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Whatever !! The movie itself is absolutely fantastic !! Don‘t miss this one !!

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