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The Wife not Questioning anything...

posted 10 years ago by silverscreenimage
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I'm confused.

The real Johnny, much to his wife's disappointment, asks her to sit down and write a suicide note then let him kill her. She obeys.

Then, when John visits her in the hospital, she's cool with him?

And then, there was never a scene of her figuring out that he was a different person, so....this woman just remains okay with her husband convincing her to let him kill her?

Or did she know it was someone else and I just didn't see it? Or was there something I missed?

Please help. I really liked this movie, but was left with a sour taste in my mouth about her just being passive about the man she thinks is her husband, trying to kill her, and then going back to being his "newly changed" self afterwards.

So odd.

[–] SuCue 10 years ago

That part bothered me also. But I decided she didn't have any memory of the incident after she woke up.

[–] SuCue 10 years ago

It also bothered me that the Grandma overcame her morphine addiction without any withdrawal symptoms.

[–] silverscreenimage 10 years ago

I'm glad I'm not the only one. And yeah, they definitely took dramatic license with kicking the morphine addiction.

[–] SuCue 10 years ago

Thew whole scene where the real Johnny convinces the wife to write a suicide note and then let him kill her was like the ultimate in understated British drama:

"Darling, I know you love me, so. . ."

"Oh yes, I understand. You want me to write a suicide note and then let you kill me. Of course."

"Brilliant, darling. I knew you'd come through in the end."

LOL! I loved the movie, but that scene needed some work. . .they should have had him trick her into writing the note and then giving her something in her drink. . .

[–] mparis13 10 years ago

Yeah, that bothered me a lot. But I also got the impression that when Johnny showed up and asked her for the "favor", she seemed like she had been expecting it. So maybe this was something that they had already mentioned before. And she's so demoralized, like he's obviously been very emotionally abusive to her, so she might think that she should just get it over with. I did wish we had gotten a scene where she realized that John and Johnny were two different people. Otherwise, she still thinks that she's living with her abuser that brainwashed her into committing suicide, and that's so creepy.

[–] madelene-4 10 years ago

If I remember correctly, when schoolteacher Johnny came to visit her in the hospital, she mentioned something about having had strange dreams. I think she's interpreted what her real husband did to her as just a dream. For that reason, she was still able to call the schoolteacher Johnny "darling;" she didn't think what had happened to her was real.

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[–] mymoviemind 9 years ago

I think the mother mentions that she was sickly and likely to die in childbirth (that's why he chose her- she says), but she survived AND had a daughter. Why he didn't keep her having children, I don't know. That way he could have had a son or she could have died in childbirth and it would be win-win for him either way. By then though, I think he needed the money right away.

I also think she knew John and Johnny were two different people. I think she knew from the moment John called her darling.

[–] LordManhammer 9 years ago

I believe Lady Spence says her son married Frances because of the trust fund, not because they knew ahead of time she might die during childbirth. They figured she'd eventually have a son, but once her first pregnancy had such bad complications, John couldn't reasonably get her pregnant a second time without arousing suspicion.

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[–] CindyH 7 years ago

She said he was different so many times that I can't understand why you're confused. I think she figured it out good and well. She kissed evil twin and immediately cooled off as he began to speak to her. She didn't tell him she loved him or anything.

I think she was just kind enough to never bring it up.

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