jobs was a pathetic loser
anyone who treats their child the way he did, deserves nothing.
shareI agree, there has to be some mechanism in our system that rewards or penalizes people for being creeps like Jobs was.
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Nope, not a loser. Bad father, sure. Why the word "loser" these days seems to mean "someone who doesn't behave in a way society would approve of" is beyond me. He was actually a big "winner".
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Winner with a sociopathic, scummy soul. There you go. Fixed it.
shareNope, not a loser. Bad father, sure. Why the word "loser" these days seems to mean "someone who doesn't behave in a way society would approve of" is beyond me.+10000 share
Who cares how he supposedly treated his daughter and her mother? I just watched this film and couldn't stand either of them and was 100% on Jobs' side. If he didn't want that child in his life than that's his right. The mom should have gotten the hint early on and done the right thing.
sharehe's a POS, dont miss him and glad he's gone.
shareThe right thing to do would have been to be a good father. It seems his daughter was never a priority in life. I care about how he treated his wife and daughter if I am to understand this man - even from a movie viewpoint. He should have done so much more.
shareNo, the "right thing to do" for any great man is to be great in his endeavor, whether that be inventing new products, creating art, achieving the heights in sports and everything in between. Great men prioritize themselves over their families, always have and always will. Sorry but that's how it is. Jobs' wife and child were very afterthoughts, as they should have been.
I'm writing my comments on a Mac, by the way. How about you?
"Great men prioritize themselves over their families..."
Truly great men find balance and realize that people like you will not be at their side when the chips are down, but their families will.
Agree 100%, it is not too late for your mom to pay someone to kill you
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Done the right thing? As in kill the child? Seems you and Jobs are two peas in a pod; except you are the poor one.
Yeah but the sun is still going to shine on his back tomorrow nonetheless. There is always hope for redemption. In fact, wasn't that what Kate Winslet's character helped to bring about? Good for her.
shareHe was a shallow, thieving prick who died very young. It's called Karma.
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Very good people die young; some are children. What was their karmic failure?
shareThink of karma as action and consequence. If I steal everyday and tread that path I shouldn't be surprised if or when I wind up in jail or being surrounded and beaten by an angry mob. Those who don't steal don't typically deal with such harsh consequences as a result of their inaction.
Bad things happen to good people for two reasons. The first is will. For the same reason a psycho can shoot up a school of children, we have some free range to act in a variety of ways. Some use this freedom to harm others. The other more fundamental reason is because of samsara or the nature of our existence. Health, family and good fortune are not guaranteed but aging, sickness, pain, death and separation from all we hold dear is guaranteed. So when bad things happen to good people it is a testament to the nature of our existence and what it allows.
We can't know the exact results of karma. We are taught not to dwell on the exact intricacies because they only bring vexation. The Buddha taught different ways to observe kamma in this life and when that foundation is built you can start to see how actions and consequences can transition through lifetimes as well. Likewise we are all reaping our past now.
The Buddha also said that a skillful action cannot produce an unskillful consequence. This is why kamma means both action and consequence because the two are directly connected.
Say a good Samaritan pulls their car over because someone's lying in the middle of the road. They get out and proceed to get jumped and beaten by robbers hiding in the bushes nearby. That good Samaritan is not yet reaping the consequences of their skillful intent and action. That person or persons who jumped the virtuous person may get the reward then and there (briefly) but as the Buddha said there is no where in existence that you can hide from the consequences of your actions.
from "Buddhism Website"
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We can't know the exact results of karma.
Sure we can. Zero point zero.
When good things come to a person who has done good things, we call it Karma. When bad things happen to a person who has done bad things we call it Karma. When they do not line up, there is no Karma involved. But "Karma" never was involved in any of the situations. Just the way the ball bounces.
I would say my memory is not what it used to be. But I don't remember what my memory used to be. share
he did something great, that requires sacrifice
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i told you not to stop the boat. Now lets go. Apocalypse Now