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Owl..... Gay rights... Yup I see how you got there!

posted 8 years ago by Green_Lump
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That wasn't even smart. how come no one commented on how the picture of the art piece next to that dress looked completely irrelevant! That was just a stupid attempt knowing no one is going to be able to talk *beep* about a serious issue like the legalization of gay marriage across the US. The dress was a DISASTER and even if let's say he was able to sell that issue. Gay rights = rainbow? Wow. So creative! Not even a small touch of color to resemble the rainbow in a design that's related to the artpiece, but noooo, a rainbow all over.

The thing that was really horrendous though was Isaac calling it his favorite piece and sh*tting over Dom's design because it wasn't avant garde while not saying the same stuff about Sam's dress.

In other seasons of PR or PRAS, there would be eliminations of wins that would piss me off but you know there were here and there that you could just say it could be a matter of taste or disagreement across the judges, but this is a crystal clear case of favoritism. No one in their right mind would call that dress "Their favorite" in an avant garde challenge, even if it HAD met the challenge. Let alone "one of the iconic names in fashion"... and also no one in their right mind would keep Sam in the naturists challenge when his design was butt ugly, and other designers were eliminated for better designs. This season is a disaster and I don't know why I'm still watching.

- Waffa

[–] coryball7 8 years ago

I really wanted Nina and Michael Kors around to judge this challenge. I know Micheal should have his smart ass comments about flags are made for flying and Nina would have given him the definition of avant garde. Hell, Tim Gunn would have gracefully torn him to pieces in the work room... Ugh.

There was a piece in the gallery that had a rainbow of colors (looks like a painting with the colors radiating out in a circle.. You can see it behind the designers) and Sam should have chosen something like that for his dress rather than the owl.

[–] blueghostcashmere 8 years ago

I am not a fan of Sam, and I think he should have gone home weeks ago. But I think he was trying to show that he was inspired by the art without being literal. The artist had said something like, "capturing a moment in time." The legalization of gay marriage in the US is the moment Sam wanted to capture.

I see how he got to his inspiration, but the construction was very poor, and I didn't think it was very avant-garde. I didn't find it interesting, forward-thinking, unusual, or experimental.

I enjoy the PR shows because it seems like the contestants really do have some skills. But I suspect, like any television reality show, much of it is actually scripted to a certain extent. I also believe a lot of the elimination decisions are not really in the hands of the "judges."

[–] Moonlighty 8 years ago

There's not being literal and then there's the other extreme where you basically do what you want to do regardless of the challenge and try to tie it together later. And it seems like a cop out way to go about it -- "hey the judges are most certainly pro gay marriage, so I'll pick something popular and sell that!"

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[–] tambourine_man36 8 years ago

It was one of those things where he OBVIOUSLY had an idea in mind before he even started looking at the art pieces. He probably had the idea before even appearing on this show. I'm sure a lot of the contestants pre-think what they'd do in certain challenges. While that's certainly not a bad thing, trying to bend the artwork to match his lame dress was.

[–] Moonlighty 8 years ago

Yeah he obviously pre thought of it, but I don't think any of the judging was based on "I can see your inspiration in that dress." It seemed the art was there to inspire them but it didn't seem like it had any part in the judging. Sometimes it does (since they do quite a lot of inspiration challenges) and sometimes it doesn't for arbitrary reasons.

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[–] tambourine_man36 8 years ago

But when you overly determine your concept (which I believe he did), it comes off as well, quite UNinspired. I'm not exactly sure the formula for when the judges take into consideration the inspiration of the piece. You're right. They do and then they don't at any given moment. It seems to hurt a contestant more when their look has little to do with it, though. But that's usually because it always looks like a turd.

[–] sydnee_man 8 years ago

Sam brought up the gay marriage thing because half of the panel is gay. Sam is so full of it. I just can't believe the judges are actually buying his stuff.

[–] smellie-ellie 8 years ago

Stuff like this always reminds me of when Mondo designed his print based on being HIV positive and shared his story. It was such a successful moment, and I think since then, other designers along the way have tried to do the same thing. but they always seem to go way over the top and try to shove it down everyone's throats, and it comes of as insincere.

I felt like Sam's dress was an act of desperation that soo did not work out for him.

and obviously Isaac was playing favorites. lame.

[–] tambourine_man36 8 years ago

I don't think people are trying to copy Mondo. They just try to pick something personal to them. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

[–] Moonlighty 8 years ago

I think with Josh and making a dress about his mom and Anthony Ryan constantly bringing up his cancer, yes it's partially something personal but I have to agree with the other poster that Mondo got overwhelming praise for making a piece about a personal issue, so that wasn't lost on other contestants and they know talking about a personal issue on ANY reality show makes for more drama and/or more reliability which equals more camera time, so it's personal inspiration plus calculated move.

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