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anyone with HIV offended?

posted 11 years ago by greeneyesmykel
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really? thats the straw the broke the camel's back?

that's the final death nail that Tyler had to go to make everyone go "oohhhh"

as someone with HIV I found that pretty offensive and don't get me wrong, I'm not saying having HIV is picnic but to see it thrown with infidelity, alcoholism and drug abuse along with physical abuse IS offensive.

It wasn't bad enough that she cheated, let her life spiral out of control and that it cost her plenty...they have to make it so she has HIV and that let's everyone known she's now all alone.

[–] renegade916 11 years ago

Likewise, the thing that sends me into an absolute blind rage is that this is just Perry's moronic Christian pandering. Judith ending up with HIV is his idea of a karmic resolution and its absolutely disgusting. I have been waiting so long for this *beep* career to tailspin into the sewer, yet somehow the lowest common denominator keeps supporting him and his *beep* He is one of the *beep* writers out there right now. He has no idea how to write fleshed out realistic characters, and this film was definitely the final straw that made me go from simply not liking him as a writer/director/actor, to absolutely wanting to see him fail in life.

I'm always dragging that horse around...

[–] xthe_shiznitx 10 years ago

while i wouldnt wish cancer or hiv/aids on anyone, if there was a based on fact novel with similar fates within it, i would not be able to deny some sort of karmic resolution. she cheated and happened to pay a very severe price for it, but thankfully she didnt spread it to her husband as well because that probably would have sent her to suicide.

[–] LongarmPrime25 11 years ago

Are you *beep* stupid? None of what you said was true. You are just spitting out nonsense for no reason. Her having H.I.V didn't lead her to none of that. She wasn't alone you dumbass. She chose to be alone because of the mistakes she made and the burden it affected around her. Offensive? Get off your high horse.

[–] Anniston 10 years ago

Given your health, I hesitate to disagree with you as I can't know how offensive it is to someone with HIV. That said, don't you think the fact she's clearly living with HIV is a positive note? She and Brandy's characters are still alive and doing well years down the line. The fact about any sexually transmitted disease is it can happen to anyone not being protected. I think it actually spreads a good message that you can't judge a book by its cover. The wealthy male lead had the world by the balls in the financial arena, but had HIV and was so callous, he didn't care to inform those around him. Or maybe didn't even know himself.

If you're not responding to me, "reply" to the post you're responding to. kthanks.

[–] cdz6969 10 years ago

For someone who went to Jr High and High School in the 90's.. We were pretty much taught that HIV / AIDS was the end of the world and all sex must be safe sex at all times.

For a while the numbers curbed and went down nationwide due to the huge educational and fear campaign effort about it. But I believe since the middle of the 2000's it's back on the rise and people aren't that afraid or just ignorant to the consequences of it. Could be because the medications to keep HIV stable is more widely available (Although still expensive) and pop culture's glamorized exposure of unprotected sex, makes people seem to think it's not such a huge deal anymore.

Jesus would support Universal Health Care

[–] morena86 10 years ago

...and people aren't that afraid or just ignorant to the consequences of it. Could be because the medications to keep HIV stable is more widely available (Although still expensive) and pop culture's glamorized exposure of unprotected sex, makes people seem to think it's not such a huge deal anymore.

So true Cdz I think it was a way of saying- "Hey! Don't forget about STDS...This can and will happen to you!" However, to the OP I agree with you. It almost implies that all ppl who have HIV have done something to deserve it.

Old enough to know better, young enough to do it anyway. ;P

[–] Waldimore 10 years ago

It's called Christian martyrdom. After yielding to temptation, she had no right to be happy.

Ugh.

This film trivializes the real concerns about what it means to be a sexually active adult in the reality of HIV. Are people supposed to stop having sex? I think at the bottom, that's the message: sex is bad. If you believe that, then you are always going to be vulnerable to "temptation."

[–] Milkdoesabodygood 10 years ago

Maybe he didn't want to know either, he was an nothing gonna stop me now attitude.

Uh baby U 4got to pull out. 9 months later, can U pull this "bleep" baby outta me, do that @ least!

[–] mystee_reyne 10 years ago

Yes. And this is confirmed (for anyone who was unsure) by the scene where she sees Bryce (I think that's his name) with his new spouse and child---while she's alone, sad, sick and going to church with her crazy mama. Pretty much, it was a "scared straight" type of movie. Tyler Perry is a phony and a hypocrite. He's like forty something and mysteriously single, yet he makes these preachy, poorly executed films about marriage and infidelity, that can't even begin to tackle the serious issues they try to broach.

[–] shonoffilm 10 years ago

I kinda felt the same way as the OP when Brandy mentioned she was HIV positive. I caught myself almost doing an eye roll, but as the movie continued I realized it wasn't that much of a cheap ploy. I really like the fact that this movie showed a consequence of thinking the grass was greener on the other-side without thinking. It's rare that a movie shows the negative in this way. It felt more real, it made me think. It didn't romanticize the cheating. This movie has a lot of flaws but I thought the story was impressive, especially for a TP flick. He has come a long way in his storytelling and movie making career.

[–] kelited1 10 years ago

I'd like to get a better understanding of why you are offended before jumping to respond like everyone else.

[–] mystee_reyne 10 years ago

I think everyone should be offended from watching this awful film with bad acting and ridiculous premises. We should all be offended that Tyler Perry thought anyone could like this sh*t.

[–] conangirl 10 years ago

well, unfortunately, "followers" or as the OP stated, the lowest common denominator types follow his films like church goers follow the bible.

sometimes, i do wonder why Tyler is 40 and mysteriously single?

oh.. well, apparently Tyler was gay, and used the Madea character from a drag queen show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=V0bORD1yGA4

After the gentleman in the video "outed" tyler? he was beaten up and given 120 stitches.

I also find it interesting that apparently, he's still gay - and having his fun.. yet let a married woman do the same thing - and he makes a movie of her being "punished".. wow..

is Tyler misogynist much?

some days, it's not worth chewing through the restraints..

[–] flyoverland 10 years ago

So, you're comparing being gay -- or hiding it from the public -- to committing adultery? And you're suggesting that Perry can't be gay (if he is) and dramatize adultery as a bad thing or else he hates women??

You sound more than a little confused, conangirl.

[–] flyoverland 10 years ago

How else would you like Mr. Perry to show that there can be dire consequences for adultery? Just another, "and her marriage ended"? "And she got pregnant"? How dramatic is that? Big deal.

But in the U.S. at present the fastest growing demographic for HIV/AIDS is African-American women -- 85% of new cases are straight, black women. Perry's primary audience is African American women. That's a dramatic statistic that should matter to them. If he were to be truly honest about the situation, he would have had the heroine have sex with some brother on the down-low, which is where these new cases are actually coming from. (No, that's not an assumption or evidence of bias, that's the statistical source per the CDC; it's not from sharing needles, but healthy black women having sex with HIV-infected bi-sexual/gay men.)

That's the trouble with some people: the truth hurts so they'd prefer to ignore it. My question for you is, How many gay men died of AIDS because no one wanted to say in the 80s and 90s, at least in the U.S., it was a gay-related disease, so gay men watch out?

Seems to me that a protective lie hurt the dead a lot worse than your feelings. So, maybe Mr. Perry is hoping to save a few sistas, but even so, he clearly did so with an eye to not offending homosexuals, or else he would have told the whole truth.