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This film tends to skip important points (spoilers)


Okay, so I believe I'm half way through. The two of them have that argument in the house, where she's drunk after just being fired from the scool. And Charlie is trying to get her to go to sleep. Okay, just seemed like an argument, didn't think they had broke up from it. Then it skips to her AA meeting, and she's saying she has a new job that pays little (when the hell did she get this job?), but she's working, and she seemed drunk in the meeting. It skips to Charlie in a pub, then riding his bike home... Now suddenly it skips to a scene, where she sees him outside of his house, and they're talking about being separated and if she's dated anyone, and if she misses him. WTF? How long have they not been together? A month? Two months? A year? It doesn't tell you anything. The argument they had, with her lying on top of him I might add with a bottle, does not give me any clue that all of a sudden they're seperated. It seems to be skipping important scenes of the story, so it's not telling the story good at all so far.

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Oh wow, and it ends at that scene in the garden without telling you hardly any of the story. This movie was garbage.

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Okay, so I believe I'm half way through. The two of them have that argument in the house, where she's drunk after just being fired from the scool. And Charlie is trying to get her to go to sleep. Okay, just seemed like an argument, didn't think they had broke up from it.

I don't know if we were watching the same movie, but that was a pretty intense argument. Her claiming "I can't be sober because of you" and seeing how miserable she was should have been a pretty good clue that their relationship was ending. They weren't working out anymore. Although I think it was a bit unfair of her to explode on him like that especially because he wasn't even drinking in that scene.


Then it skips to her AA meeting, and she's saying she has a new job that pays little (when the hell did she get this job?), but she's working, and she seemed drunk in the meeting.

The audience is supposed to assume that she found the job in between the time of the argument (which was kinda like the final showdown of her addiction) to the present. I think it was a couple months after. I don't think she seemed drunk at all in the meeting, she was really emotional talking about people that she missed.


It skips to Charlie in a pub, then riding his bike home... Now suddenly it skips to a scene,

I believe the filmmakers include the "skipping" on purpose. Not every detail has to be shown. The whole point of this scene was to show that Charlie hasn't changed his lifestyle at all and is continuing to drink without Kate. You know he is single because they show him trying to talk to another woman at the bar who seems interested in him. After awhile, I believe it is implied that he really misses Kate because he's still in love with her and he loses interest talking to the woman.

and they're talking about being separated and if she's dated anyone, and if she misses him. WTF?

Of course she's going to miss him, they were married! Remember the previous AA scene where she was talking about how there was a lot of people in her life that she missed, but she wasn't going to give in because it would make her sobriety harder to maintain. Charlie probably was the biggest trigger for her drinking behind her mother.


Oh wow, and it ends at that scene in the garden without telling you hardly any of the story. This movie was garbage.


You missed the point. The croquet game they were playing at the end where he said she was kicking his ass was a metaphor about their lives: She was now sober and recovering her life back together while he hasn't changed his life at all.


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Okay, I just caught the ending last night on Starz and after Charlie and Kate's fight, it cuts to Kate in an AA meeting celebrating her "first sober birthday" so you can assume the events that happened after were about a year later.

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But they at least could have signalled that in the movie. Like most movies do - a l little bit of text saying 'one year later' or something.

Terrible written movie. I only watched it for Paul because of his 'Jesse' character in Breaking Bad.

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If you can't extrapolate that time has passed without a caption, then maybe you shouldn't be watching movies with any kind of time jump. I mean, come on. It was as obvious as day to me. The cut was abrupt for this intention. They cut from a very inebriated Kate to a sober Kate at an AA meeting, so clearly something had changed, and that means time has passed. It really wasn't that difficult to understand.


You heart me? What is that? Is that like I love you for pussies?

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There was a bit of text that said one year later. I agree about missing scenes though, the movie could have been a bit longer and while I liked the metaphor at the end I don't really like movies that end on a cliffhanger. Although I guess it leaves it up to the audience to decide whether they got back together or not.

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And he felt defeated when she turned him down twice..First about moving back in, and second, about going out on a date.

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You jumping to use the term "garbage" for this film indicates to me you don't have much patience for movies that aren't simplified for you. For whatever reservations I might have, I thought this was a well-meaning and thoughtful effort that was easy to follow. A very simple story with nice performances around.

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Yeah it's a pretty terribly told story

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At the meeting, I believe they explicitly say she is receiving her One Year Sober acknowledgment token. The last time they are together, even drunk she says she Can't Be Sober With Him. I don't think it was a stretch to figure out they had been separated for a year.
That said, this movie was made on a very low budget, from all appearances. I found it easy to follow, but if you felt it had holes, that's not surprising.

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