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Those guys in the mountains and other questions (spoilers)

posted 8 years ago by viamber
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Were they refugees? Or just hikers? They looked, for a minute, like they wanted to rape Penelope before fleeing.

Why didn't Paul just turn away and leave her naked on the rocks? She was very unappealing and obvious. I can't believe he would fall for that old trick. I know he couldn't just leave her, but he could have called down to her to "get dressed! There are guys roaming around and you could get hurt!" and then turned his back to wait for her.

It seemed out of character for them to come back to the house SO LATE...HOURS LATE!! Didn't he care that Marianne would think something had happened between he and Penelope? It just seemed like a stupid thing to do.

What was all that about migrants and drowning at the police station??? What was the captain trying to say? Were they trying to link the migrants with what happened to Harry in the pool?

How could the police tell there "were other people in the pool"? Huh? Wouldn't footprints be washed away by the water in the pool?

Was that the captain who flagged them down and asked for an autograph?

What was the scar on Paul's leg from?

Thanks for any help.

[–] violence_and_electronic_music 8 years ago

What made you think they wanted to rape her? Maybe they didn't like intruders messing with their land. Maybe they were refugees who didn't wanna be ratted on. Maybe they just wanted to look at an attractive woman for a second. Don't judge them, they seemed pretty harmless.

[–] MongoLloyd 8 years ago

What made you think they wanted to rape her?

It was obvious they were predators facing off with a potential adversary. They wanted the girl - no question.

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[–] Interstellar98 8 years ago

I believe that those are migrants that Paul and Penelope encounter, and each party is surprised to find the other there.

The movie is working events like those that happen in the real world, into the film. The island is very close to Tunisia, so migrants drowning could definitely be a real thing, similar to events we hear about in the news.

In the police station and the house where they make cheese, we overhear that a boat of migrants has capsized. We also see a pen where they are kept in. I believe the captain complains that the morgue is full of their bodies, so the body of Harry is rotting.

Marianne uses the migrants as an excuse to deflect suspicion from Paul, and the captain is willing to excuse Marianne and Paul for an autograph, and because they are 'nice people.'

The patterns of sand at the bottom of the pool were disturbed more than they would have been if a single person had drowned. It could have been caked on dirt that was harder to dislodge than by simply draining the pool.

The scar on Paul is either from having sex on the rocks with Penelope or from the fight with Harry. I don't remember if we see that happen in the struggle. I believe that by saying that she has seen it before to Marianne, Penelope is implicated one way or another, from having sex with Paul, witnessing the fight, or lying to also deflect suspicion from Paul.

You can't be more horrific than life itself. - Francis Bacon

[–] filmfancy 7 years ago

The scar on Paul is either from having sex on the rocks with Penelope or from the fight with Harry. I don't remember if we see that happen in the struggle. I believe that by saying that she has seen it before to Marianne, Penelope is implicated one way or another, from having sex with Paul, witnessing the fight, or lying to also deflect suspicion from Paul.

Great summary Interstellar98. I wasn't sure how Paul got that small wound either. At first I thought Penelope was referring to the larger scar on his side, the one he got from the car accident. She noticed it near the beginning of the film.

I'm not sure why the director chose to not show what happens between Paul and Penelope on the rocks. Why create all that mystery? There is also mystery surrounding whether Penelope saw anything while Paul and Harry were fighting. Paul asks her whether she was up the night before while they're at the police station, but she doesn't reply.

I found the ending to be rather unsatisfying, with Marianne laughing in relief that the police captain is a fan and just wants her autograph (would this ever happen?). Was Paul ever going to tell her the truth? He made out that he tried to help Harry, but I don't think he told Marianne about the struggle and that he actually killed him.

The one thing I did like though was the scene of Penelope crying on the plane. It finally made her character seem real -- too bad it came at the end.

And all the pieces matter (The Wire)

[–] buzios 7 years ago

Marianne suspected that Paul has something to do with Harry's death and then when Paul told here he tried to save him she knew. At the end with the policeman she believed they were going to arrest Paul which is why she was so relieved when he just wanted an autograph.

[–] Julie_Julii 8 years ago

Excuse me - They looked like they wanted to rape her??!

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[–] Julie_Julii 8 years ago

Wow no need dressing up your bigotry and prejudice with words like 'swarthy'.

[–] MongoLloyd 8 years ago

Wow no need sticking to the argument when you can bring your social justice ethos into it and totally displace the topic.

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[–] eatmorecoffee 8 years ago

Maybe not rape, but sex was on their minds. Try traveling alone in certain countries - you will be harassed and stared at by men like that all day long. Even if you're nowhere near as attractive as the character, and much more covered up. They think it's a worth a try because they watch porn films and think all white women are like that. It's just how they roll.

[–] Julie_Julii 8 years ago

The bigotry is making my eyes water.

[–] MongoLloyd 7 years ago

Exactly. They stared at the girl for a good 15-20 seconds before leaving and if you'll notice, the guy with her stared them down and moved closer to the girl. And everyone knows that white women are routinely ra`ped by swarthy men in less civilized parts of the world.

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[–] benman46 8 years ago

Didn't you stay awake during the film?

[–] Mixalidis 7 years ago

They were an introduction to the whole refugee subplot. In my opinion, they were staring simply cause they saw a half-naked blonde, something they can't see in their native countries. It was perhaps the first blonde they've seen in their lives. I don't believe they had the intention to hurt her, but perhaps someone who speaks their language can make it clear...

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