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why have 2 ask commander if you can marry?


What kind of bull is that.

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Hollywood Fiction: he didn't have to ask to marry her because they were already married. And as depicted in the movie, she wasn't calling to check in on Bernie from the switchboard because she was home with the flu for the duration of the storm. For the most part, the role she plays in the film is fabricated presumably because shots of her sniffling in bed would have been much less interesting to watch.

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Hollywood Fiction: he didn't have to ask to marry her because they were already married.


Interesting. I noticed her name in the credits (at least on IMDB) list her as Miriam Webber. I thought that was odd, because she and Bernie were not married in the movie. Your comment explains it.
Even without knowing that, my reaction during the movie was that her scenes while Bernie was at sea seemed like Hollywood fiction.


You must be the change you seek in the world. -- Gandhi

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It used to be standard for all American military branches. As past wars were fought overseas, there were concerns about men marrying foreign women and those women then being denied entry into the US. It was thought that a man marrying in the midst of war, then being shipped somewhere else and having to leave his new wife behind could be bad for morale, and distract him from his daily duties. There are also statistics that show an extremely high divorce rate for these overseas marriages.

Additionally, soldiers used to be granted leave specifically for marriage, which requires permission (as any leave does); and overseas marriages required lots of documentation and paperwork so that the marriage would be assured to be valid when the war bride came into the US.

Nowadays, it's more of a formality, as stated in the film. But newly married military personnel do still have to officially provide updates of new last names, new addresses, changes in insurance, requests for housing for their spouse, etc., after they get married.

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Nowadays, it's more of a formality, as stated in the film.


Not merely a formality when the one you are marrying is a foreign national and you hold a security clearance. In that case, yes you are required to inform and get permission. as it can severely impact your own clearance and ability to perform your job.


As in the film where he is marrying another American... no.
But if she were a foreign national, especially if she was from a country that if not outright hostile, isn't exactly friendly with the US.
If he wanted to marry a girl from say... Iran.


I got engaged just prior to shipping out for boot camp.
Got married between Bootcamp and A School.
I was an EW and required a Secret Clearance for our work with radar intercept and jamming.

One of the very first things they briefed us on was that, and how we have to report all contacts with individuals from certain nations no matter how innocuous the conversation may seem.

Which got me worried because I had already gotten married, and my Wife's nationality (though she is a legal Resident Alien(Green Card), is from one of the listed nations. Vietnam.

I brought this up to my Instructor, EW2 Davis and he said he would look into it but that it shouldn't be a problem, being that she has resided here in the US as a resident Alien since she was 11 years old and practically grew up here in the States.
Over 3 months went by and I never heard another word on the subject.

Then in the last week of school. Petty Officer Davis knocked on the door to our classroom with our current instructor and asked to see him and me out in the P-way.

He said he had heard back from BuPers regarding my marriage to who was still technically a Vietnamese Citizen.

My Clearance was going to be denied and that I would not be an EW. I would be allowed to pick another rating that I qualified for so long as it was open and did not require a clearance.

Man I was just sick! I tell you.
Then with a grin he asked me if I knew the date.
DO'H!
April 1st 1991

Good guy, Funny guy. One hell of a good instructor too.





I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!

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Good story . . . still laughing.

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I didn't necessarily have to ask for permission, but when I was in the Army and got married, I had to notify my platoon sergeant, who had to notify our commander. (I joined the Army in 2001 and got married in 2003.) This was done in order to start housing allowance, get your spouse registered for an ID and medical care on base and get them added to life insurance. The weirdest part, and I'm not sure if this was done everywhere or just in my command, was that I had to bring my platoon sergeant to inspect the apartment I was moving into because there was no on-base housing for E-4 and below and I was an E-3. So if you had dependents (spouse, kids, etc.) you had to have someone OK the place you were moving into. Before I signed it, I also had to bring in my lease to ensure it included a "military clause" which states that if you're deployed before the lease is up, you aren't responsible for the remainder of the lease. Although I think nowadays as long as you have orders, you're covered under the SCRA, so you wouldn't even need a military clause.

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