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When he tells her she is strong like her mother....and her father i hope he is refering to Gordon. Even though Hood is her father Gordon was the one who raised her. He also saved them all at camp genoa.

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I was wondering too, when Hood said that. I am leaning to Gordon.

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Good question, I thought Hood meant himself too, but Gordon actually makes more sense!

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That's the beauty of the writing--they leave it open to interpretation, there is no right answer.
Personally, I imagine he was referring to himself.
Hood sacrificed himself for his family and endured 15yrs of hard prison, consisting of physical and psychological torture as we witnessed in prior episodes--for his family. He was abandoned and essentially left to rot. Somehow, he had the grit to survive and overcome--again, for the sole purpose of reuniting with Carrie.
If that doesn't define grit, the epitome of strength, then idk what does.
By comparison, Gordon is a little b**ch. Always whining, had a massive breakdown when he found out Carrie had a prior life (big woop) and had a relatively easy, quick death surrounded by his wife and allies--unlike Hood who, again, was abandoned to be beat, tortured and raped in a prison day in day out for 15yrs. Yet kep going for the love of his life.
And Done.

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I thought he referred to himself, to reassure Deva that she still HAS a father. It's actually the first time he defined himself that way, IN that way. The closest he came before, IIRC, is when he talked to her about his old man not giving a damn about him. (Real Life is the Nightmare.)

It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

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I thought he referred to himself, to reassure Deva that she still HAS a father.
As did I.


How terrible is wisdom when it brings no profit to the wise

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Ah, I'm not alone!

It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

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I dont like that. Hood may be her biological father BUT gordon was her father in her life who raised her. He also proved to be quite the badass he,saved carrie and even hood during that military fight. I liked the gordon character, he was a good guy who got screwed over but still came through for his family

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Hood may be her biological father BUT gordon was her father in her life who raised her.

I agree 100%, but he died. So I felt that Hood tried to reassure her that she still had a LIVING father.

I also believe that Gordon was a good man and a good father. Where he failed, was when his and Carrie's relationship broke down and he couldn't keep it together for his children's sake. What bothered me most of that whole scenario, was that he tried to prevent Deva and Max from having contact with Carrie. That's just wrong! It hurts the children more than the person you're trying to punish, especially Max, who was too young to understand what's going on.

It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

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I also believe that Gordon was a good man and a good father. Where he failed, was when his and Carrie's relationship broke down and he couldn't keep it together for his children's sake. What bothered me most of that whole scenario, was that he tried to prevent Deva and Max from having contact with Carrie. That's just wrong! It hurts the children more than the person you're trying to punish, especially Max, who was too young to understand what's going on.


In that situation I wouldn't want my children anywhere near Carrie! She put them in huge danger over and over again, and was still involved in extremely shady stuff, so I cannot blame Gordon wanting to get his kids as far away from her as possible.

"No man yet found drinks his tea blacker"

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In that situation I wouldn't want my children anywhere near Carrie! She put them in huge danger over and over again, and was still involved in extremely shady stuff, so I cannot blame Gordon wanting to get his kids as far away from her as possible.

I take your point, but he at least could have allowed them telephonic contact, for instance when she served her measly 30 days in prison. Because it hurt the children not to have contact with her.

It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

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Deva: I didn't think you'd come.
Hood: I wanted to make sure I said good-bye.
Deva: Feels like that's pretty much what we do, right?
Hood: Yeah, it's kind of a bad habit, huh? [chuckles] - So, college.
- Yeah.
Deva: I give it about three months. With everything that's happened, I just don't know how I can possibly fit into someplace - as normal as college.
Hood: Nah, you're gonna do great.
Deva: I don't know. I think normal might not be in my repertoire anymore.
Hood: Hey, you know what's great about being your age? You got all the time in the world to figure things out. You do. And you will. You're strong, Deva. You're a fighter.
Like your mother. And your father. You're gonna do great. And now I'll always know where to find you.
Deva: And will you? Find me?
Hood: Promise.
Good. You might be a *beep* father, but you're the only one I got left.


It felt like he was reminding Deva that she's the product of not just Carrie and himself, but also Gordon. 'Your father' Deva's later comment about you're the only one I have left feels like she's acknowledging Gordon as her father as well, which seemed like a nice book end to Hood's recognition that he hasn't been much of a contributor in this regard, but that he's going to be from now on.

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Im glad they didnt just forget about gordon. Deva always refered to him as her father in the past.

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It felt like he was reminding Deva that she's the product of not just Carrie and himself, but also Gordon. 'Your father' Deva's later comment about you're the only one I have left feels like she's acknowledging Gordon as her father as well, which seemed like a nice book end to Hood's recognition that he hasn't been much of a contributor in this regard, but that he's going to be from now on.

You may be right, I'm having second thoughts.

It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

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I think Hood has evolved at this point and has truly gotten to a place of forgiveness for Ana (not visiting him in Prison, for starting a new life without him, for hiding the truth about Deva etc...etc) and for himself (for pushing the stupid heist (diamonds and Camp Genoa) for getting caught, for intruding on Carrie's new life, for not being there a father to Deva, etc...etc.). Thus, I took it to mean he can fairly credit Gordon for raising his daughter in his absence. It's a mark of just how far Hood has come, how much has shed the weight of his anger, guilt, regret, sense of displacement (via Gordon and Carrie), Siobhan et al (covers a lot I know but we know what all Hood has carried as his penance). The statements to Deva and to Carrie (you were with me...in the cell) reflect how far he's come in letting go of them.

In retrospect then, the fetal position tearful catharsis with Dawson (not my favorite or favourite) character in the series) is a line of demarcation showing Hood truly beginning to let go, and release the pain he has carried all these years. The self imposed exile in the cabin for nearly 2 years then serves as Hood hitting rock bottom in his self-mortification, what emerges his a man who will no longer lay blame for what happens on himself entirely, he will not alone foist and then shoulder the weight of life's many tragedies upon himself to the exclusion of all others.

In this way, Rebecca's death at the hands of another, and what superficially may have felt like Hood's failure to protect her, to save her, actually serves as a revelation to him that the losses in his life (his mother, a life with Ana, Siobhan etc) occurred because of sinister, dark forces at work and that he is not accountable for their actions. Hood is ironically, though process of investigating and finding those responsible for the death of Rebecca, becomes freed.

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(not my favorite or favourite)

LOL!

Good analysis, Cotton! I know some people would have liked a literal 'bench' moment for Hood, one even resulting in his death, but I think those Grizzly Adams days were his 'bench'. That's the point where, like you said, he hit rock-bottom.

It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

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I admit i never liked Hood...i mean he wasnt a good guy. HOWEVER this season he has shown growth as a human being.

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I was upset they didn't hug and kiss goodbye. Really.

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That was never really the dynamic between them. I mean Hood wasn't around, not by his choice admittedly, during Deva's upbringing and he's only recently been a sporadic presence in her life. IF anything, Gordon was her father by any functional measurement. The affection is growing for sure, but Hood's conversation and reference to 'your father' was, I felt, acknowledging that she's a product of her mother and her father (the man that raised her). I think a hug or kiss would have felt, depending on how it was executed, a bit of a leap for both characters.

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Im glad most recognize gordon as her father. Even if hood didnt go to jail he didnt strike me as a man who could raise a child....he was a violent criminal after all. I think he did the the right thing by leaving but also promising to check up on her once in a while

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