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The Punching "Bag" Kai Proctor practices on

posted 7 years ago by Olddawg90
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Hello all,

I have recently started watching this show, and I must say, I enjoy it. I have finished the first season and just started the second.

There is one thing that comes to mind, and that is a scene in the first season. Kai Proctor was practicing on what looked to be a wooden post, with "branches" jutting out. The "branches" were used by him as countering with one hand while jabbing with the other. I would like to know what this wooden post is. Clearly, I don't even know what it's called, hence me calling it a punching bag, when it is not.

Does anyone know what this is? I would Google it, but I'm not even sure where to start the search.

Thank you.

[–] mgreen9715 7 years ago

You know, I wondered this (although it was a few years ago as it was my first time watching it too) But I could never find anything.

Let me know if you find anything and tell me how the show was when you finish it.

Definitely one of the best ever put on TV, honestly. Even if some of the things are ripped straight out of one of those chuck Norris or Stalone movies (I'm talking the sex and violence)it still has amazing writing, amazing characters, amazing acting and amazing cinematography. It's almost like a 3 chapter movie. It's campy at times so I hope you're not one of those that nitpicks TV series to death like some do on the boards in general (usually never around here)

[–] songod-95003 7 years ago

I too just finished season one and came here to comment when I read someone who wrote "The 5 things that don't make sense" and they were pretty spot on but, well, it's a TV show and while a bit more edgy than something elsewhere, it is still exaggerated fiction.

Rabbit ought to be dead. She shot him through one lung and through the other if not then the heart. He'd have died from either wound as he'd drown in his own blood if not right off through the heart.

I plan on watching season two but have to wonder how Job missed the son. And also how they'll explain away the body of the real Hood. The guy had to have dental and his prints have to be in the system since he was a cop. Unless Job changed all that but then... missing the son was a huge blunder for such a expert in fictional TV tech!

Sounds like the show is heading down serious soap opera territory. They perhaps then were wise to stop at four seasons before things got completely silly.

[–] Olddawg90 7 years ago

I had many of the same questions. I am now on episode five of season two, and many of these questions are somewhat suitably answered.

[–] songod-95003 7 years ago

Thanks. Since it ran four seasons I assumed they had to, even if with "TV logic". Real life? None of this would have worked. Just too hard to escape identification and surveillance of some sort (not accounting for bodies found that remain unidentified). The chances of a sheriff with no personal ties, no one from where he came from that can ID him (how would that be possible - he had to have had officers\deputies)... just too out there.

But it is a fun show nonetheless.

[–] mgreen9715 7 years ago

If you honestly have a gripe with that being "too out there" than you obviously haven't seen many shows because the majority of shows have that problem at one point or another.

National Geographic and the document channels might be more your stile.

[–] songod-95003 7 years ago

I personally enjoy it for what it is but have to agree that even things like the fight scenes would not happen the way they would. Example: The fight between Proctor and Hood in Season One. Both men would have been laid out after a few of those blows! Anna and the Russian? He'd have killed her early in with the smash into the wall\table\etc. They may all be master thieves but they are not super human (I had the same issue with the mortals on the old "Buffy" show. In so many instances\fights they would have been killed).

I am in season two and the same fighting rages on. Fun to watch! Oh and they explained right away the whole no investigating the real Hood, his teeth removed and finger tips cut off... but there is that DNA on the clothing but it seems no one at the FBI cares so... and the son doesn't either so... he can keep up the charade.

Which I have to ask at this point why. Is he hoping once Anna gets out of jail she'll have nowhere to go and thus be with him by default? Can't he see he is little different than the deputies ex? As Job keeps reminding him Banshee is slumming for people of their skills.

It's TV. And logic does not equate.

[–] mgreen9715 7 years ago

I found it funny that the son had the "Oh my father died, wow that sucks, moving on" attitude although it wasn't supposed to make me laugh.

Walt would have gotten caught fairly fast on BB if you're going to nitpick that much. So like I said, it happens on almost every TV show. It's entertainment and most shows are FICTION, which these things happen to be.

Oh well.

[–] Olddawg90 7 years ago

Thank you for your response; I'm glad I'm not the only one who was curious.

Thanks to leapoffaith_urkle, we have our answer. Kai was practicing on a Wing Chun wooden dummy, which is good for practicing grabs, blocks and countering. A quick Google search has yielded that vendors such as Amazon sell them, at pretty hefty prices. However, I will definitely start saving for one.

I think if you watch Banshee, you embrace the "campiness," the over-masculinity, violence and sex. By themselves, a movie or TV show can seem cheesy. However, Banshee combines them all wonderfully, and the final product is amazing. So far, at least!

[–] leapoffaith_urkle 7 years ago

The object Kai uses is a Wing Chun wooden dummy/practice dummy, an old-school piece of martial art equipment with the upper posts representing the extended arms of an attacker, as well as a commonly found lower bent post to represent a 'leg'.
Wonderful for practicing combinations of blocking, trapping and counter strikes.

Hope that helps and answers your question, and please do stick with the show, it is a wonderful and unique combination of Action meets Drama unlike most anything else on TV, and seeing it through to the finale is well worth the journey.

[–] Olddawg90 7 years ago

Thank you very much for your input; the question has been answered to my satisfaction.

Now I wonder where may I be able to purchase a quality one. I notice there are a few decently rated ones on Amazon, but I have no idea if the people leaving reviews are people who study these types of things in-depth.

I will definitely stick with the show. Thank you again.

[–] rosslynglen 7 years ago

I would like to know what this wooden post is

Muk Yan Chong is a wooden dummy used in Chinese Martial Arts as a training
dummy
Bruce Lee a student of Yip Man also made and modified a win chun wooden dummy for his martial arts philosophy . Legend says the dummies came about when a 108 or so were take from a Shaolin temple and were combined into one by the Nun Ng Mui.
You may have heard of Bruce Lee`s wooden man.

But with one eye on this series the men and the woman would have to be made of concrete
The fight between the "Heroine" and the Russian? was absolute nonsense.

There is a scene further on where the Indian lassie takes out three or four hulking marines who are bothering a woman. The Indian lassie weighs about 7 stone
the Marines about 16 stone a piece. No matter how good she was she could not take down these guys , impossible, but that seems to be the way things go now the Woman beat up the men to show how tough they are .Just imagine all the wee lassies watching these shows and thinking they can take out a man with a wee punch.
What about that horrible wee lassie that plays the Daughter a poison dwarf.
She needs a good scrub and her mouth washed out .
I like the series but I find the violence ott and unnecessary

[–] R_Kane (15828) 7 years ago

If violence bothers you, why did you watch this show? And it is not impossible to take out someone twice your size, it's just very hard to do; witness Bruce Lee. On the other hand, and as you obviously know very well, it's very easy to be smug, condescending and sexist; and I am a man and a martial arts instructor.