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Thoughts on Amy's Thoughts on Evidence..


Case in point: Season 6 Episode 8

Question: How would that affect the living?

Amy: If the person woke up while the ladies were doing it, then they would feel like they couldn't move and stuff.


Now either she's not very bright, or maybe she'd have brought up the common physiological experience of "Sleep Paralysis"



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Thank you. This exact issue has been bothering me for ages. A lot of the clients appearing on the show describe not being able to move in their bed, while being approached by figures/entities, pressure on their chest, etc.

That is almost the TEXTBOOK DESCRIPTION of what a sleep paralysis/night terror is like. You are awake while your brain is also dreaming, it's a hypnagogic (or hypnopompic) hallucination while your body is in paralysis, as it would be during REM-sleep. Those experiences can be absolutely terrifying and they are vivid in all modalities, especially the tactile pressure/force. Your brain sees something that is a very real and vivid experience, and it perceives it clear as anything else, it coordinates the visual input of the hypnagogic hallucination with the tactile sensation. (I have had sleep paralysis/night terrors myself, and I've had to calm myself down through them by reminding myself that this is just a hypnagogic hallucination.)

It always astounds me how not a single person in the Dead Files acknowledges that these experiences take place during sleep paralysis/night terror, when it's such a common parasomnia.

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Quite right, and your articulation on the subject is refreshing.

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What if the experience has zero relation to the dream you were just having?

Sleep paralysis/night terrors are in many ways a complete mystery - it's not merely an "exteriorization" of one's nightmare.

No one can say that these "night terrors" are not genuine interactions with something or someone else. It's not taking place in physical, temporal reality and it's also not taking place within a dream/nightmare: It's taking place in that strange in-between state, which is rich with unusual experiences: archetypes of the collective unconscious present themselves, nonsensical bubblings up from the brain, premonitions, out of body experiences, voices, deeply symbolical images, etc. That in-between state - hypnogogic or hypnopompic, corresponding to alpha or theta brainwaves - and the things one experiences while in it cannot unilaterally be dismissed as mere dreams or imaginings. There are various things that can and do take place in that state.

I encourage people to read Dr. Barry Taff's book "Aliens Above, Ghosts Below." It's one of the best, no-BS books on the paranormal I've ever read. Patrick Harpur's books - especially Daimonic Reality - are also very interesting, he has a unique perspective on these types of experiences.




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What if the experience has zero relation to the dream you were just having?

Sleep paralysis/night terrors are in many ways a complete mystery - it's not merely an "exteriorization" of one's nightmare.


I don't disagree. I certainly don't see sleep paralysis as a continuation of a nightmare or in relation to any dreams. (My experiences were in no way connected to any dreams, for instance. They struck unexpected.)

No one can say that these "night terrors" are not genuine interactions with something or someone else. It's not taking place in physical, temporal reality and it's also not taking place within a dream/nightmare: It's taking place in that strange in-between state, which is rich with unusual experiences:[...]


I acknowledge this point, it is reasonable. Just because something can be explained in medical terms, or as a glitch in the brain, doesn't exclude any extra spiritual dimensions to it. Maybe there's actual interaction (or interference) going on during sleep paralysis, like a perceptual gateway. My frustration is that people on Dead Files don't address sleep paralysis for what it is (a parasomnia), they bypass the down-to-earth concrete interpretation and jump onto the level of demonic/spiritual interaction. Not everyone who has sleep paralysis has a haunting, if you know what I mean.


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Yes! I am Narcoleptic, and I experience sleep paralysis and hypnagogic hallucinations regularly. (We narcoleptics can enter REM while "technically" still awake). Your descriptions (and your knowledge) of these phenomena are astonishing and refreshing. I, too, find it bizarre that the cast of Dead Files seems unaware of these. Hmmmmm.

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It's really cute that Miss Kitty left out an explanation for commonly found scratch marks, which wouldn't happen if Quote: 'people couldn't move due to sleep paralysis. Hello? Anyone home?

Clients feeling sick to their stomach after they notice temp changes in rooms, people being pushed down stairs, thrown to the floor, objects moving, objects missing, pets ending up dead under strange circumstances, people's marriages being destroyed by unexplained anger after moving into haunted homes, etc., etc.

Your sleep paralysis theory doesn't even cover 95% of what people are reporting to have occurred before contacting the team.

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Clients feeling sick to their stomach after they notice temp changes in rooms, people being pushed down stairs, thrown to the floor, objects moving, objects missing, pets ending up dead under strange circumstances, people's marriages being destroyed by unexplained anger after moving into haunted homes, etc., etc.

Your sleep paralysis theory doesn't even cover 95% of what people are reporting to have occurred before contacting the team.


True, but all those experiences aren't the ones targeted to be explained by sleep paralysis.

The textbook sleep paralysis experiences described on the show (inability to move, perceiving figures approaching the bed or standing over you, creatures/figures interacting with you or putting pressure on your chest/throat, any hypnagogic/hypnapompic hallucinations really) can be explained by sleep paralysis.

Not everyone who suffers from a parasomnia is haunted. The clients of Dead Files are assumed to be, of course. That doesn't automatically mean that their textbook parasomnia experience should be attributed to their paranormal activity.

If a simple and straightforward explanation is available, why assign it to the haunting? That's a form of confirmation bias. It undermines the credibility. Why does it undermine the credibility? Because that one part of their joint paranormal experience that CAN be attributed to something much more common, is not addressed for what it is. They could have said something like: "after we moved onto this property, I started experiencing sleep paralysis, and I've never had that before we moved here". That would be an acknowledgment of a phenomenon that exists outside the paranormal (something many people out there can identify with, even), without invalidating any of the other experiences they have that CAN'T be explained.

Does that make sense?

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