Nicely shot and agreeably acute but
very thin material. I can't really believe that this relationship lasted as long as it did. I would have dropped that druggy, selfish jerk immediately.
shareIt's not as easy to do when your madly in love with someone like that, trust me this film hits really close to home.
shareI felt the same as thormn8. I guess he really loved him but the film doesn't really show that strong connection they were supposed to share.
shareAgreed, the "love" was not even shown. Very thin plot here.
shareBeen there, done that too and it lasted the same 9 years and I was a totally clean never tried anything and he was a coke druggy. A few things that I will comment on.
1. With my help and one year of working at it, he got off of all drugs however when that happened, the relationship changed and we ended up breaking up. With the coke it was the hottest sex without, it was so - so.
2. The one thing, if someone can answer me is: The part in the movie where he has taken off and is found in the hotel room, what was the purpose of showing the other guy arriving and was he a rent-a-boy because he was seen counting money but the thing that I dont get, what was the purpose of showing him having sex with the other one in the living room and why did he come into the room and hold his hand while he was being 'serviced' by the other guy?
That one part seems rather gratuitous to me. If it had been the rent-a-boy arrived and so on, sure but I dont get that he could have loved him that much given the fighting they had when he was found on the sex line, to now sit and hold his hand while he is getting *beep* Sorry that one part does not seem true to the past history.
I wear my net \O^O/ to make sure I am seeing what others see.
It's very hard to understand how someone could just openly go and have sex with another in front of their partner.
But I've seen this behavior in gay bars many times (precisely why I don't go to them any more) and those that don't approve are called 'prudes' and close minded.
Are we 'close minded' because we don't understand this scene or is it showing just how bad this relationship actually is...and that it should have been ended a long time ago?
Neither partner was healthy. This extremely disturbing scene brilliantly illustrates the depths to which these two had sunk. This is not a feel-good movie. I don't think you're supposed to necessarily understand the points of view expressed.
shareThe unfortunate thing is that Erik was a normal young man pursuing his filmmaking ambitions while enjoying the company of new guys....until the day he met Paul and got sucked into destructive co-dependancy.
Thankfully, he managed to succeed in his aspirations and keep healthy relationships with family and friends. Although it took longer than it should have, a matured Erik finally realized that Paul would forever bring him down, so it was time to move on.
I was hoping that Igor became a dependable, healthy partner to Erik. :)
"Don't get chumpatized!" - The King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters (2007)
I saw this today and I thought it was so underrated! I found it fascinating and I didn't feel any moment was out of place. Like the others said, that scenes did show how unhealthy their relation was.
shareactually that scene is true, it's even autobiographical, and it's told by Bill Clegg ( aka Paul) in his autobiograpical book (cf my other post), Paul called the escort way before he called Erik to pass by. And the movie makes it confusing but the discussion about the sex line was not right before that but probably months before. When Paul is found in the room and have sex with the escort ( which is actually a Brazilian paid 400usd I think), from his point of view he is not really in a relationship with Erik anymore. But clearly Erik aka Ira (the director) is in Love with Paul aka Bill while he is not.
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