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This basically shows that soldiers are tools


And that's why war is stupid. Whoever wants war doesn't know what the hell they are talking about and should be committed to the loony bin immediately.

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So it's a good movie?

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*yawn*

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Patton said the idea was not to die for your country but to make some other poor SOB died for his country. War is not romantic or glorious on the front line (if there is a front line these days. A lot of soldiers fight for the others in their unit not some abstract principal. You win by digging other men out of basements and holes and killing them. Smart bombs to the contrary. Or you will end up like Korea with a truce after a half century and no peace treaty.

One old cyncial quote is that war is diplomacy by other means. In other words, politicians don't fight to win but to get a leg up on someone else. Then your businessmen make deals with their businessmen within ten years. Go to Saigon and you will see American corporations all over the place wheeling and dealing.

You can afford to yawn with a too small vounter army. "What more do you want of me? I got the bumper sticker."

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Thanks for stating the obvious. But this is also a reason why we respect those who came back from any war. They paid their dues.

My life isn't any better than yours.

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Major General Smedley Butler, USMC.

“I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.”

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Simplistic answer from a simpleton. Do you think European Jews are grateful the Nazis were defeated? Are American blacks glad the Civil War freed them? You're an idiot. Wars run the gamut from justified to foolhardy like most things.

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...I have to agree that wars can't fit into just one category. We tend to focus on the catastrophes - Vietnam, the involvement in Iraq, Somalia with Black Hawk Down, or Benghazi after the revolution that removed Gaddafi. But I wonder about the wisdom of making peace with Nazi Germany, or not intervening in Bosnia, and Kosovo. Rwanda may be the prime example of not intervening at all. In the case of Libya, perhaps the limited intervention, despite the loss of life after, may have been worth it.

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