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Finally Europe is confronted about whaling

posted 12 years ago by alonzo9772
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I'm tired of just Japan being bashed for whaling while Iceland and Norway also do it. Also telling from the commercial it's annoying how that one guy that walked up to them didn't even had the courage to sign to show his face. Who's going to feed the world? Not you coward!

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[–] Rumble_McSkirmish 12 years ago

That's ok, there's plenty of others who do confront the SS and show their faces and the SS get all pissy and scared and call the cops. Ironic since that's basically how the SS act towards ships on the high seas and see nothing wrong with it.

[–] alonzo9772 12 years ago

They don't get scared, it's more anger because protesting is a basic human right that everyone SHOULD be able to do but pro-whaling countries sneak in laws that put in place to arrest protestors around whaling activities.

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[–] mm1palmer 12 years ago

but pro-whaling countries sneak in laws that put in place to arrest protestors around whaling activities

Care to back that up with some examples?

[–] alonzo9772 12 years ago

Here's just a few stories of anti-whaling protestors being arrested.

http://marklawrence.blogspot.com/2006/06/greenpeace-anti-whaling-protesters.html

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfrqhp_japan-arrests-whaling-protester_news

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/japanese-authorities-arrest-sea-shepherd-anti-whaling-protestor-peter-bethune/story-e6frg6n6-1225840081503

http://articles.latimes.com/1998/nov/02/news/mn-38564

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[–] Rumble_McSkirmish 12 years ago

For your first link, do you know why they were arrested? Was it because they were anti whaling, or did they not submit a permit to protest which many countries require for public meetings like that? Was it an actual law, or did they arrest them to stop causing problems during negotiations?

As for Pete Bethune, you know why he was arrested,. correct? He illegally boarded a Japanese ship with a weapon after illegally attacking it prior. He was arrested for violating laws that had nothing to do with whaling.

As for the last one it was a law made to protect the natives by barring others from being in the same area. It wasn't for protesting, it was for being in waters where they posed a threat to natives. It would also mean people cruising by or going to support the hunt would be arrested as well.

Honestly, if you're going to make a claim, it would be nice if you cited instances where people were arrested for the reason you cite rather than other laws either for nationalities that exist to everyone or safety laws.

[–] mm1palmer 12 years ago

but pro-whaling countries sneak in laws that put in place to arrest protestors around whaling activities

1. It doesn't say why they were arrested. So your linked article it is not a response to your original claim. For all you know they were arrested for littering. Or possibly the beach is private property and they were trespassing.

But if you had put in a little effort you would have found this on a Greenpeace website.

http://weblog.greenpeace.org/oceandefenders/archive/2006/06/st_kitts_come_back_soon.html

"Magistrate Claudette Jenkins said: "This is a sovereign state with laws and regulations that must be obeyed by all and sundry regardless of their intentions;One thing that impinges on me is that the ship was barred and despite that they still came on the island to make their point. That aggravates the offence."

So they didn't have permission to even enter the country. Entry without a visa is a crime for anybody in just about every country. And that also means they didn't go through customs, another crime. And neither crime is from any new law passed to prevent anti-whalers protesting. They are laws common to most countries and have been in place for decades.

2 & 3. He wasn't arrested for protesting. He was arrested for assault, illegal boarding, damage to property and possession of an illegal weapon. Nothing about his protesting. All laws that predate the anti-whaling protestors.

4. "who entered reservation land"..."were arrested on trespassing charges", Trespassing laws have existed long before Paul Watson was even born. Hardly a law put in place to arrest protestors, as you claimed. Oh this was also in the United States which is not a pro-whaling country.

Now how about a single law that was snuck in to arrest protestors around whaling activities. Because all of your attempts so far show the enforcement of long standing laws that apply to everyone, they are not targeted at anti-whalers and probably 99.9% (or more) of the people that get arrested for breaking those laws have nothing to do with whaling pro or anti.

[–] Rumble_McSkirmish 12 years ago

So wait, the SS get angry because people protested them? That's even funnier

but pro-whaling countries sneak in laws that put in place to arrest protestors around whaling activities.

There's a huge difference between protesting and interfering, I suggest you study the difference between the two and you'll see just how baseless a claim you made

[–] alonzo9772 12 years ago

You can all kiss my ass! Killing whales is wrong and it's idiotic those who believe it should remain legal. We aren't living in pre-historic times anymore.

"If you don't stand up for something, you'll fall for anything."

[–] Rumble_McSkirmish 12 years ago

Woo! another winner of a post

Hey buddy, whaling isn't illegal. Whaling is agreed upon to be halted commercially by IWC members unless they seek exemptions. Countries that don't exist in the IWC are free to whale to their heart's content.
Now, add to that that pilot whales are dolphins and not whales...

Glad you've listened to what people here have said. Please, resort to flaming, it's funny to watch the SSers squirm when they can't be right just because they say so

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[–] magnuspetersson72 12 years ago

The Faroese whaling is just like the Alaskan whaling, for the food.