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an enjoyable movie but the underlying messege - to me - disturbing

posted 10 years ago by thepotatoHasEyes
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so , i can say i did enjoy it , i enjoyed hating the dad figure throughout the movie
the only redeeming thing he did was to get the plants.
so , what i found disturbing... , and this is a main trend in the whole of society.
spiro saved the dads life as a baby , spiro nurtured and raised him with care,
as soon as dad was able , he deserted spiro , and the chip shop, went and became a big deal -not bringing spiro along. but only giving spiro enough to satisfy spiro's immediate needs . (i couldn;t stop thinking that "mom" died because she could not stand dad any more )
so , dad falls on hard times and spiro is there to nurture and love dad again , to rebuild and make everything better , again.
As soon as dad gets a chance to return to his douche life , he accepts a bad deal just to get it back and desert spiro again. this essentially kills spiro because he will be alone again after giving nothing but love. all spiro wants is to have some family. dad cannot even do that ... so spiro dies of a broken heart , literally.
Then when spiro is dead , dad wants to act the part of a loving dad and keeps the simple life that spiro wanted by keeping the chip shop.this made me mad ...at a movie character?! it took spiro- the one that asked for nothing more than simply being part of his little brothers life - dying to turn a douche around ...? it's true and it sucks .
that just was crap to me and i have experienced similar in real life .
i believe that a lot of real people die of broken hearts every day because they spent their whole lives caring for and nurturing someone , only to have that someone -a loved one- just go away and live a life without the first person.
it was , and is sad , a terrible thing . take care of the ones that took care of you

NOW JUST START THE MOVIE

[–] hypnotizze 10 years ago

Was this completely the case. Yes, the dad was a bit of a d*ck but throughout the film it was made clear that the brother certainly had issues of his own and that "dad" felt like he was being used solely for what he could give his brother.

I understand your sentiment of looking after those who looked after you but that doesn't mean with impunity. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand I'm not saying I think "dad" was a great person but everyone's journey in life is different. Just because one person understands the importance of family it doesn't mean that someone will or does. Sometimes a culmination of events will lead to a realisation - that's exactly what happened here.

[–] ELashes 10 years ago

I think the death of Spiro may have been a metaphor for the bad situation Greece is in, in the face of the economic crisis, but I'm not from Europe so I can't be sure. Greece fed the English and taught them to dance when they were on vacation there, for sure, just like Spiro did for the Greek-born but culturally English Harry.

[–] a-movie-fan 10 years ago

I think the death of Spiro may have been a metaphor for the bad situation Greece is in, in the face of the economic crisis, but I'm not from Europe so I can't be sure. Greece fed the English and taught them to dance when they were on vacation there, for sure, just like Spiro did for the Greek-born but culturally English Harry.

I could be wrong, but I think maybe you've over-thought it a bit... okay, a lot.

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[–] ELashes 10 years ago

I could be wrong, but I think maybe you've under-thought it a bit...okay, a lot. :retarded emoticon:

[–] a-movie-fan 10 years ago

I could be wrong, but I think maybe you've under-thought it a bit...okay, a lot. :retarded emoticon:

Aaaaawwwwwww! Here I was, waiting for some form of demiurgic response, but it's not to be. Nonetheless, your 1st grader reply - copy/pasting my post, going out on a limb, risking it all, to change ONE word - makes me feel sad... for you!

I'm not sure if you were watching the same movie, or your comment was written while you were intoxicated and/or off your meds, but now that I've seen your response, I think you're rather immature. If you didn't agree with my original post, instead of copy/pasting posts, why don't you try to use your vocabulary and explain why you came to the conclusions you did. People can say what they want, we're all entitled to express our own opinions. However, intelligent people are better able articulate there pros and cons and still carry on a mature discussion. That's why it's called ... A DISCUSSION

Maybe you're too young or too immature, but until you can prove otherwise, I STILL think YOU over-thought it.

Hilarious: YOU copy and paste and you call ME retarded!! Time for your meds!!

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[–] KatharineFanatic 8 years ago

Neither of them was perfect.

Remember the conversation in the car?

Harry, essentially, left the business and went on to form his own life -- but every time he turned around, his deadbeat drunken brother was there filching money off him to get him out of fixes -- out of rehab, out of trouble with his "friends" (who he was probably in debt to), etc. Spiro may have loved him, but turning up drunk and making an ass of yourself at your brother's wife's funeral cannot have been a high point of either of their lives.

Harry admitted before the deal went through that he was the happiest he had ever been in his life -- and he didn't know why. It was because he was actually with his family, not off making money. Through Spiro, Harry found his family, his culture, and his heritage again -- and he kept up the fish shop not only because he loved it, but because he recognized there is more to life than a loan.

Essentially, it was a movie about a fun-loving, likable unreliable idiot (Spiro) and his hard-ass, super-responsible little brother (Harry) both realizing that they had to change. Spiro needed some of Harry's reliability, Harry needed some of Spiro's enjoyment of life.

Harry was not just a douche -- he was reeling from LOSS. The loss of his wife. Of not knowing how to connect with his kids. Of substituting things for quality time.

It was a nice little story.