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Explaining Fiero and his many accounts here


I read a lot of confusion around the board about Fiero and his many sock puppet accounts here. It is really quite easy to explain, you can recognize a Fiero (Jamie Miller from Chicago, Illinois) account by two things:

1. Always coming to Abby's defense no matter what she did.

2. Ragging on the mothers, despite the shows title.

There are several accounts owned by Fiero, they are jgrv-1, bohunkchicklet and literally countless other accounts. The best thing to do is just put them on ignore and try and enjoy posting here till februari 20th. despite him being here still. The reason he makes this many accounts is because he is obsessed with Abby, maybe even on stalker level, and that he realizes many people put his main account on ignore. Don't let yourself be stooped to his level, don't reply. Its what he wants and desperately needs.

If you wish to know more about what type of person you are dealing with, I recommend googling "fiero425" the first result, or one of the first is on a certain encyclopedia and its a good read. It will explain to you exactly who you are dealing with.

Many people have complained to IMDB about Fiero, but for whatever reason nothing has been done about him. So until the 20th this month delivers us all of this bugchaser this advice thread may be of assistance.

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jrvg-1 is not Fiero.

I know this, because I know him personally.

If you knew him - even the tiniest amount - you'd see the differences as clearly as night and day. Even if you spent ten minutes comparing the posting style of Fiero's blog/posts (broken record, lots of emotion with no reasoning to back it up, many emojis and enjoys toying with users).... and compared to jrgv (who speaks coherently, rarely uses emojis, and is happy to back up his views with an explanation)....you'd realize they aren't the same person.

Bottom line- he's not Fiero. Fiero supports Abby because he worships this show and is obsessed with Dance Moms.

Jrvg-1 is a good guy so I'm really disturbed to see him attacked like this. As well as being an intelligent and kind soul, he is quite successful in his chosen career. He supports Abby's methods because he found success, as a result of a harsh teacher who pushed him to the best of his ability.

Way to try to throw someone you dislike under the bus, though. Fiero isn't enough of a punching bag? You're now going after every single person who disagrees with the majority? (That's a rational line of thinking- "everyone who disagrees with me must be Fiero!").

You are some rando who wandered into our midst, yet you are casting aspersions at people who have been communicating on (AND off) the boards for years.

I don't know if you're trolling, crazy, stupid, or some combo of the above- but your posts are not only total garbage- they're outright lies.

I stand by my earlier statement. Thank God Reddit is moderated, so lying losers like you, can't take their (lack of) life out on innocent people.



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I forgot to mention another large difference between Fiero and jrvg-1.

No matter how many times Fiero is proven incorrect in something he states, he hangs onto it like a dog with a bone. He will dance around any proof you provide and give you an attitude of, "la la la, I can't hear you, I feel this way so it's true!".

Since the first day I met jrvg-1, he has thrived on *quelling* untrue rumors. He's the first person to ask for proof. If you can actually give it to him and prove him wrong - jrvg-1 admits he is incorrect, he apologizes and he moves on. He's unwilling to bend his point of view just because someone doesn't like it.... but he is a rational human being who can admit when he is wrong.

I take a special objection to the attack of this person....because he is the one who taught me how to view other people on the Internet as people, no matter how mean I might find them, or how much I disagree with them. (Trolls excluded).

I think a lesson most people- especially you, FriendlyPete, could learn - is that the people you're typing at are real people with real feelings. Their views on a TV show are just one tiny aspect of who they are. Disagreeing with someone's stance is not an excuse to abuse, berate or harass them.

As crazy as he has driven some people because of his controversial views, he made us all better debaters. The board is a better place because of jrvg-1. I may not always agree with his views, but I'll always support him, because I am a better person for knowing him. Really, all of us who have taken a moment to actually get to know him, are.

You're the one who missed out on an awesome person, Pete. And that is your loss.

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And i'm supposed to believe that from yet another Fiero dummy account?

Interesting.

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Yes, yes. Pete. We know.

Every poster here is really Fiero. Firemen are Fiero, the mail man is Fiero, your doctor and kindergarten teacher and cops are Fiero.

"YOU get to be Fiero! And YOU get to be Fiero! EVERYONE gets to be Fiero!!!"!

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no just the ones with AIDS are Fiero. and since you have AIDS, well then that makes you Fiero no don't it?

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"Internet Trolls Are Also Real Life Trolls"

By Jordan Gaines Lewis

"My brother and I have a childhood history of internet trolling under our belts. Innocent enough, yes, but disruptive nonetheless. From the same room at our parents' house, we'd play Yahoo! Graffiti (the internet's version of Pictionary). The word was 'dinosaur' and it was his turn to draw.

He'd illustrate a beautifully elaborate rainbow. All the while, players would be guessing rainbow, RAINBOW, RAINBOW!!!? and wonder why they weren't scoring points. I'd wait until five seconds were left on the clock and finally, calmly, contribute 'dinosaur'. We've been banned from Yahoo!Gamerooms until 2016. (With any luck, I'll have my PhD by then and show Yahoo! that I'm a changed woman.)

A 'troll', in internet slang, is someone who deliberately upsets others by starting arguments or posting unnecessarily inflammatory messages on blogs, chatrooms, or forums.

In recent years, it's gotten so bad that YouTube needed to develop a way for users to moderate their video's comments section, and Popular Science shut down its comments section entirely. Indeed, for trolls, the anonymity of the internet is the perfect playground.

But a new study by Erin Buckels and colleagues at University of Manitoba in Canada wanted to figure out who, exactly, these trolls are. Using Amazon's Mechanical Turk website, internet users (mostly male, with an average age of 29 years) answered survey questions designed to assess what's called the 'Dark Tetrad of personality'.

This tetrad includes narcissism (egocentrism and preoccupation with prestige), Machiavellianism (tendency to deceive and manipulate), psychopathy (lack of empathy and inhibition), and sadism (pleasure of inflicting pain or humiliation on others).

Buckels and colleagues asked about the participants' internet behavior, including how frequently they comment on blogs and forums.

They also gauged how the subjects commented, asking whether they preferred debating, chatting, making friends, or trolling. Of the 418 participants, 59% said that they actively comment on websites. Among those, nearly a tenth admitted that their favorite activity was trolling other users.

Scores on the Dark Tetrad personality test revealed thattrolls are, by far, more likely to have narcissistic, Machiavellian, psychopathic, and sadistic personality traits. Okay, so that's not so surprising. But Buckels and colleagues wanted to take it a step further: how much enjoyment are these trolls getting from their online shenanigans?

The researchers constructed their own Global Assessment of Internet Trolling (GAIT), which asked such questions as 'I have sent people to shock websites for the lulz' and 'The more beautiful and pure a thing is, the more satisfying it is to corrupt.' (Sadly, some people indeed answered these questions with a yes).

Trolling enjoyment was very strongly associated with a sadistic personality, and was also correlated with Machiavellianism and psychopathy. In fact, further statistical analysis revealed that most of the Dark Tetrad correlations with internet trolling were because of overlap with sadism.

So basically, the study shows that people write nasty comments because they enjoy harming others. Big deal, right?

Actually, the study may have some interesting implications.

Since a sadistic person is characterised by being vicious and degrading toward others (sometimes physically), it's possible that the internet allows them to redirect their energy. If they're inflicting harm through anonymous words, perhaps it's preventing them from doing something much more destructive in person. On the extreme end, and unsurprisingly, sadism is commonly seen in sexual offenders and serial killers.

Another finding that was not emphasised strongly in the paper: across all participants, the average amount of time they admitted devoting to commenting was over an hour a day. AN HOUR! Commenting frequency was associated with younger age, being male, and high scores on the authors' GAIT test.

So the next time you find yourself reeling over a particularly hateful comment on your favorite website, take some comfort in knowing that you're just another anonymous pawn in the internet troll?s game. They've got some serious personal issues going on that they might not even realise.

(Or it's just another 12-year-old trying to ruin your Yahoo! Graffiti [or IMDB] experience. That's possible, too.)"

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tl;dr but I'm sure it describes you perfectly, Jamie.

Finally you seem to be getting some self-knowledge.

Oh what am I saying, of course you aren't.

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fiero is arvin g goodwin, he is a known sock puppet master

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Says the ignorant racist troll. Something's wrong with you! You'll soon have to find somewhere else to troll, troll! Happy now?

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Hi Fiero.

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I have to say if I was fiero I would be LOL'ing right now; he has you SO worked up you had to make a post about him? Seriously who is fiero to you? Some random dude on the internet who has an obsession with Abby and the girls. Big deal? That's his prerogative not yours.

He is annoying but you know what? There's an ignore option that works great... maybe you should use it and get over your obsession with him???

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ah another Fiero sock puppet.

Yeah i'd be lolling all the way to the bank if I had my full doxx, penetration pictures and bugchaser forum posts exposed on ED for all to see like little Jamie does. I'd be lolling so hard being all exposed like that, trying to pos young gay lads with the AIDS in my system. Thats some comedy gold right there, killing other gays with your virus. Thats real nice stuff. I'd be lolling so hard. So worked up. lol. Spreading AIDS. oh wow lol thats funny!

It will be so nice februari 20th when we're all liberated from you, Jamie. You can go spread your AIDS (literally) elsewhere.


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Dude I'm not Fiero, first of all I'm in Australia, second of all I don't even like him, he annoys the *beep* out of me and third of all unless you have evidence that he is doing all this crap then I'd suggest you be careful because he can sue you for defamation...but judging by your posts you really don't care about all that. Although knowing fiero he wouldn't care about you either

But again I ask; why are you so worked up about him? I've never seen someone be so obsessed with another poster before -- what has he done to YOU?? Did he "spread his aids" to you or something? Or maybe you're in love with him and are sad you won't be able to stalk his IMDB posts after the 20th? I'd expect this type of post from... fiero himself. Maybe YOU are fiero trying to start *beep* get his name out there. It's all pretty sad and pathetic though.

Enjoy your fiero obsession, I have a gorgeous hot summers day to enjoy here in Australia.

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I only read the first line of your post:

Dude I'm not Fiero, first of all I'm in Australia, second of all I don't even like him, he annoys the *beep* out of me


So then why get in the way of a guy who's finally giving the lad a taste of his own medicine?

Lead, follow or get out of the way buddy.

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Every single person in this thread is leading- by example.

Your theories were wrong, you expected Fiero to come out of hiding and rise to the bait, and you expected everyone to agree with you.

You were incorrect (at least with jrvg-1, though the girl name could be Fiero's. No one cares, though).

No one agrees with you that we should torment someone simply because we don't like how they live their life.

He's left the forum.

The rest of us have put you ignore, most have moved, and you are alone.

It must suck to know that people dislike you so deeply and you're so socially inept, they won't even hate-chat with you. (Like everyone else, you're now on my ignore list).

Before I go, I'll play the world's smallest violin for you. Boo hoo; poor, lonely, widdle trollie.

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LOL you are SO Fiero.

And Abby should go to prison.

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Girl I know... and you might even be onto something about this actually being Fiero.

I found two Dance Moms forums when I learned about the board here closing. Guess who is posting, and has *been* posting on those boards, ever since "Friendly" Pete came here?

Yup. Fiero. (That's not a guest, his user name is literally Fiero and it links to his blog).

So, Fiero has moved on and is long gone. No longer here to post or read.

Therefore, instead of trolling Fiero (as Fiero is gone), Pete is instead basically trolling everyone who stood up to, argued with, or insulted Fiero.

Logically, if he were truly after Fiero, he would *post and read where Fiero posts/reads*. Instead, he's trolling people (like myself for example) who have gotten into fights with, or insulted Fiero.

(I brushed Fiero off as crazy but harmless, until he stole chunks of my writing and reposted it to his blog with no credit. Then it was on.)

So, if Pete is going after the people who went after Fiero (since basically all of us did at one point)....that's the behavior of a Fiero stan, or even Fiero himself.

Makes you wonder. ;)

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tl;dr

But from your statement there I see that you are Fiero, letting me know that you've "moved on" and if I can please stop.

Remember when I asked you to stop back in the day, Jamie, and you didn't? For three long years? How does it feel now that the shoe is on the other foot? Not so nice is it?

Sure, I'll stop mentioning you here, if you stick to your word and stay gone. But we all know how many sock puppets you got here, so stop posting with those too and MAYBE we'll have a deal. That'd be starting with this sock puppet you got, "Sage-Becket". Stop posting as that one and alllll the other ones. I can see it right away when its you, Jamie. We're not all as stupid as you look. Stop posting with all your socks, and i'll stop. Just, don't come back here. And let us post in piece for the remaining week the IMDB forums are still up. We all know you can't.

The ED page will remain though, for all time.

For all time.

And Abby should go to prison.

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