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loved the idea didnt like the film but i have some qustions


1. who was chained up in dekkers cellar

2. what was the deal with dekkers son I thought at one point the monsters may have taken him or he was a freak and went with them and dekker wanted him back but nothing like this is mentioned

3. why did adam just end the film after we saw the footage of the monster delivering the camera to his room, we know he was still alive as he was the one who showed us the final footage from camera two, he was making a documentary surely he would have ended his film at least with his final thoughts or telling us what he did next or if dekker had been found

4. exactly what were the monsters the film made out they were just societies deformed children but they seemed more bizarre looking than that , and if that is the case how did the vary first of these creature discover the marrow, and if its such a paradise why do they return to earth

5. who was dekker feeding with a spoon in the marrwo hole

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1. His son.

2. He brought his son to them thinking the monsters were deformed freaks.

3. Don't know. Maybe to have the viewer come up with their own theory of what happened.

4. Probably real monsters. The deformed children was just his theory.

5. His son.

Yo, she-bitch! Let's go!

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Answers 1 & 5 are contradictory. I know "who else would he spoon feed?" but why the hell would ha keep him locked up in his basement part time and in the "marrow" part time? Makes no sense. ---It wants no straps. - Karlhttp://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000024/nest/158601447

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I think he brought his son from the basement to the marrow around the time they set the cameras up

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Based on what, exactly? The only time we see the basement door open and empty shackles is at the end...---It wants no straps. - Karlhttp://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000024/nest/158601447

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I believe his wife was in the basement, the child was in the hole.

Or his child was in the basement, grew up, he released it into the hole and it had children and he was feeding one of them.

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2. Dekker may have been the one that *beep* the umbrella whore and then she had a child...

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Oh, I like that one!

Yo, she-bitch! Let's go!

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Had considered that myself once he went on about her being hot lol. The movie was awesome.

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I was about to post the same thread with the same set of questions, thank you!
All of them have been answered here by now, but I also really want to know what did he mean by saying he was "wrong". First, it seems, he tries to stop people from wondering about monsters saying they don't exist (monsters made him do it, that's why it's not convincing in the slightest), but then I thought by "wrong" he means monsters are not human rejects who try to live in peace, but actually otherwordly from the start.


Also, the first one they see doesn't resemble a human at all, and actually does look like a cheap special effect. And the crab man is just too wacko to even be considered humanoid despite his torso and legs.

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Oh, and unrelated thought: who thought putting Ray Wise there was a great idea? It's cool they went with a semi-famous director approach, which seems realistic enough, but without Ray Wise, we wouldn't have a lot of things. That's some alternative universe! Leland Palmer is about as recognizable as Freddy Krouger. People who haven't seen Twin Peaks recognize the main theme and Leland from the start! Without TP there is no X-Files. Should've used an unknown person to make it more believable, even though everyone knows it's just a piece of fiction, of course.

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Hmm, I kind of see your point. Though tbh I had no idea who Adam or Ray were until I saw this movie lol. For me it was great!

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It would have been fun if it was Ray Wise as Ray Wise... and in his off time that's just what he does with his days, spoonfeeding his mutant love child down a hole in the middle of the woods and writing monster 'fiction'.

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It's as believable as you want it to be..the whole suspending disbelief thing

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Look, this is a comedy first and foremost, for those that don't recognize it as such. It kinda has a pretty well-laid story too.

1. Who was chained up in Dekker's cellar?

Dekker tells a tale of a young college boy approached and seduced in an alley by 'Brella after confessing how authentic the artists rendition is, and possessing 'the body of a beautiful woman, right?', despite the artwork he is gesticulating towards kinda telling a different story. Dekker is the young college boy, and had a liason with 'Brella in an alley that bore a son. When he was pressed on this, he attempted to conceal this illicit bit of information by scaring the producers with other more pertinent information: These monsters ARE people, and some of them will hurt you, HAVE hurt people, if you keep digging. He then tried to 'scare them straight' and wash-over the fact that he has suggested he has had sex with a 'monster'. 'Brella is the one chained in Dekker's cellar.

2. What was the deal with Dekker's son?

Dekker's son was taken by Vance. That's how Dekker is aware of Vance and understands his purpose.

3. Why did Adam decide to end the film that way?

I think Adam felt the film needed a stinger at the end. I entirely agree with you though, the startle wake was too much and inexplicable. It should have simply ended with the delivery of the camera to a sleeping Adam. I would like to hear from Adam why he chose the startle wake. I get this is all supposed to be comedic, but I kinda felt invested at that point as to the resolution of the story, and it felt like a troll, rather than a rib at a goofy trope.

4. What are 'monsters' and 'the marrow'?

Things that slip through the cracks. You would have to go back to the opening to kinda understand the concept. Monsters CAN exist, because it's in our nature to be able to conceive them, and most of all we WANT them. So, simply the concept of a 'monster' makes a 'monster' real on some level. It MUST exist, because you can conceive it. It's like that porn meme/rule 34 or whatever. But there is also an attempt to humanize them. They aren't 'monsters' they are just different and forced to hide themselves.

5. Who was Dekker feeding?

Dekker was feeding his son. After his liason with 'Brella, and his past run-ins with monsters from the marrow at the lumberyard, he began chasing her. She may have indeed been 'dangerous', and stalked and murdered 'dumb college boys' that she seduced and lured into alleys as they came out of bars. Those grissly pictures might indeed be evidence of 'Brella's crimes. Dekker was not murdered by 'Brella though, when he was a 'dumb college boy'. He did not find her monstrous, despite from what we can see...we don't want to see much more under that umbrella...

That night gave fruit to a child. Dekker was unaware of this apparently, and was still chasing 'Brella. That's how he's aware of her 'methods' of killing 'dumb college boys'. He, after many years of chase and investigating the marrow, caught her and chained her in his closet/cellar. At some point he became aware that he had a son. 'Brella is one of the 'dangerous ones' and he has to keep her locked up while he searches for their son.

Perhaps, with 'Brella's help, he has been able to track down the network of the Marrow, and is able to find openings into the Marrow. He waits stoically for signs of his son, who eventually emerges ostensibly because he is looking for his father. His son belongs in the Marrow though, where he can live a life 'just like we do'. But it pains Dekker to be so distant from his son. He attempts to clandestinely meet with his son at the Marrow openings he can chase down.

As to why he contacted Adam is quite confusing. Perhaps he was simply lonely. Maybe he was frustrated that he couldn't see his son and this was designed as a threat of exposure to the 'monsters in the marrow' if they continue to deny him access.

X. So that's pretty much the story, it's supposed to be silly and it's supposed to be a comedy.

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Let me just say I really enjoy your Theory's on the movie. and i agree with you with the whole Brella thing.

But i don't agree on this is some what of a comedy movie thou.

in a Q&A http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2x0vhh/i_am_writerdirectoractor_adam_green_from_digging/

about some of the questions fans where asking about some of the Topics you talked about.,

but off topic if you click on link Adam green did say he dose want to make a Sequel's

what do you want to see in a Sequel?

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I keep hearing Adam say this, and I keep hearing people grill Adam over this. He's messing with people.

Look, there is goofy ragtime music over the first half of the film. There is a point when they go to interview Ray Wise's character again, and there isn't any music. Ray Wise puts on an old rag-time record. Get it? 4th wall? The characters realized they forgot the thematic music. Adam can't let anything subtlely hilarious go, and has to hang a flag on it and ask Dekker about the music. Half that scene is investigating the 4th wall breaking record...

This is a comedy. There are lots of winks like that throughout the film. The freakin ridiculous chain lock on the door to Wise's cellar? It wouldn't even work! It's too much, it's overwrought, ridiculous, supported by the side of a thin bookcase, and the handle will just slip out of that really goofily plasticy looking chain. It's a hilarious gag.

No matter what Adam says, or means to say, it's clearly heavy on the gags.

Edit: the film loves this joke. Cause if you really want to secure a door, you take a really chunky chain, wrap it loosely around a door knob and attach the end to the flimsiest piece of furniture available...and then never have it come into play. That's a good dry joke in execution, because the audience just keeps getting shots of this silly chain...ungh

I'm not a fan of Adam to be honest and I hate Hatchet and Hollisteron, but this movie was actually really clever and enjoyable. I came into with an intention that I would eviscerate it, and come away happy and wanting to explain some of the elements in it.

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Awesome analysis man !

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Good Idea Terrible execution

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My thoughts exactly. It's almost frustrating how much he *beep* on such an incredibly originsl idea.

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