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Why don't they just shoot the hogs? (and other questions)


Seems like getting down with them, and the dogs to tie them up serves no purpose and looks dangerous, although I mostly root for the hogs to get a tusk or two into the "hoggers". What happens to the hogs after they get them all tied up?

Do the hog hunters get paid by the hog or do they just do it for free? I never hear any discussions with the land owners about price.

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Do the hog hunters get paid by the hog...
lol, you might wanna re-word that before you get trolled ;)

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Thanks eyerny, I see what you mean. I know the hog ain't got no money to pay for anything. Should have read do the hunters get paid per each hog captured or killed.

Still, does anyone know the answers to my questions???

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Just a guess, but there are a few different types of permits you can get in Texas for hunting either as recreation or nuisance removal. They may not have the proper permit that simply allows them to roam through counties firing their weapons, when catching and hog tying might all they can do, anything else not being covered in whatever permit they hold.

This though is true, the butcher shops that serve and sell wildboar as a meat tend to want it fresh, which means carrying a hairy bloody pig corpse on the front of your jeep in the texas sun all day would not be the best sale for a butcher shop or restaurant chain. So for top dollar (yes, they do get paid and often per hog captured/killed/removed) you capture it, sell it off live, and it gets butchered later for top freshness of the meat. I can easily buy wildboar meat in California for example but since there is not a hog problem here I figure it's from somewhere further east and how old it is. Still tastey though :)

They do shoot the hogs when they get too dangerous or are too big for their dogs, but if you watch and listen they are interested in highest payout for the job and I guess live capture is the best way to do that.

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Thanks wildboar-1. Everything you said makes sense. The hunters do seem to not want to disappoint the land owner in making a big dent in their hog problem. I'm still wondering if their payment is the "privilege" to hunt on the owner's land or if money changes hands.

I lived in south central Florida for 32 years, and down there hog hunting was a traditional sport among the "Crackers". They used both swamp buggies and horses depending on the terrain and dogs trained to catch the hogs by the ears. They shot or captured the hogs. The captured hogs were penned up and fed good feed for a few weeks to get the gamey flavor out of the hog, then butchered and eaten, usually roasted BBQ style and served with some swamp cabbage...MMMMM good eats! Wish I had some right now.

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Oh man, yeah back east wildboars are very rampant, and some european areas have a real problem too. I been to Florida, my Dad and grandfather lived in Tallahassee, and so many critters live in that area that are not indigenous you really can't help but to hunt and possibly eat them. I know of one fast food chain that serves wildboar burgers, that's Fuddruckers and I had both a tastey burger and one I did not finish since it was so tough and dry.

Someing else I just thought of, from watching an episode where they talked to a few clients. The people don't blurt out OMG I WANT TO KILL AN ANIMAL JUST NOW. Sometimes the person needing and asking for the hogs removal feel badly about it, hell sometimes I even cringe a bit when they have a hog being bitten by a half dozen dogs and pulled by the legs/tail, but when your crops, your livestock animals, golf courses and vinyards are all being both eaten and the land torn up for wallows and piglet litters, you have to decide either go out of business and have your family suffer or get rid of the problem.

I imagine most mid-late aged landowners and farmers around that area of TX are in similar situations, can't go out grab a shotgun and hunt the boars alone. People have been killed (and eaten) by those things. They're not cute and cudly, well the little ones maybe but not the big black 300lb boars with 3inch teeth. I can see that the Dad would be lost without his kids, he can't take down hogs or mount a horse and hunt alone anymore.

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You chose a good imdb name.

just kidding

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There are no permits of any kind (other than possesion of a valid Texas hunting license) needed to hunt wild hogs in Texas. There is no season or limit on how many you kill or regulations on how you take them. I have a few friends that make good money by taking them alive. There is a place in the next county that ships them out, I believe to China. But they have to be alive. It pays pretty damn good if you can get alot of hogs. Most people use traps for this purpose.

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I figured as much. I only thought it might require a specific type of permit to travel across counties and go onto other people's private property to hunt them with firearms. Never been hunting but would be willing to try it of course

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In several other shows I have seen, the hogs are trapped and transported to slaughter houses where they are processed and the meat is distributed to the homeless shelters and soup kitchens in the area. As one person above said the hogs need to be alive on the hoof for the meat to be usable. In the heat down there they tend to go bad really fast in the heat and just wasted. A lot of ranchers I have heard just load up their 30.06 and have target practice. Forget about hiring someone to take the piggies out for them. They are problems for most states including Hawaii. BTW-For the safety of everyone including yourself please take a weapons safety course first! Especially if you were not brought up among guns as most country ranch kids are and experienced hunters are.

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I am a Texas hog hunter. All u have to have to hunt the hogs is a valid texas hunting license and permission from the land owner, unless you are on public land ! We hunt them for free , but you can sell them , and yes they do have to be alive to sell . We don't shoot them for one you risk injury to your dogs , for two it's part of the hunt and adrenaline rush to catch them live and to give the hog a chance! Also don't believe everything you see on TV alot of the show is added drama and from what I have seen most of the hogs they catch are small and don't have any teeth and couldn't hardly hurt you anyway! It really kinda aggravates me to watch the show because I know the difference in real and added drama . The show is right about the hogs being a problem , and you have to use dogs because the hogs get trap smart and you can't trap them , so dogs are about the only way to keep them in check !


Sincerly yours ,
A northeast Texas dog hog hunter

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I still think using a tranc gun once they are close enough to the hog would be simpler and yet "humane" and allow them to get the piggies to market.


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On another hog hunting show (in Florida) they mentioned that the pigs are paid for live and processed for the market. They didn't mention the difference between live and dead pigs but I have to guess that providing a living livestock commands more money so it in turn gives incentive for the hog hunters to capture them live.

Another consideration would be the danger of a dead animal's bacteria spreading throughout the rest of its body (wild hogs can carry E-coli) so I doubt a food processor would want to even touch a dead wild hog



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thus my obvious suggestion of tranqing them. shoot them w/ a tranq dart, then truss them and put them in a cage. they'll wake up w/ no damage or yucky dead meat issues.


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You cannot "tranq" them. Animal tranquilizers cannot be sold to the general public.

Hogs cannot be poisoned either. The only known poison effec5ive for pigs is sodium nitrate, but it is outlawed.
Farmers/ranchers need a special permit to handle pesticides, and that doesnt include poison.

Hogs eat bait with diesel.. Diesel fuel!

Im just letting you know, all the posts on these message boards regarding hog hunting on imdb are wrong.


Hog hunting in real life is nothing like these shows portray.

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If an animal is going to be processed for human consumption, it has to be alive when it arrives at the slaughter house. It is also worth more money at the slaughter house this way.

Animals that arrive at the slaughter house dead can only be processed for animal food (dog food, cat food, etc).

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They're too dumb to figure out how to shoot a gun...

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Better yet how did this POS of a TV show come back for a second season ???? From the promo the old ba$tard talks like he has a mouthful of pig dodo.. sounds like that old fart in GOLD RUSH.... shame on you A&E for airing this garbage... where are the animal rights groups ?

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I guess you haven't seen the episode where Robery shoots a hog.
How can you honestly say they're too dumb to figure out how to use a firearm when they have cleary shot hogs in some episodes?

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I have heard a landowner or two voice the suspicion that the hunters who so helpfully offer to remove wild hogs are the same people who released the hogs in the first place. That is, the hunters are just in it for the thrill.

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Landowners are too rich and busy to shoot "trashy" animals like pigs.
Usually they lease their land and get hunters to PAY them for the privilage to hunt hogs on their land. Usually the rancher that manages the landowner's property is the one that sets it up with the hog hunters.

The reality is that landowners do not hire hog hunters, they actually get paid by hunters for permission to hunt on their property.
Hunters are armed with firearms, or hunting bows.
Using dogs is an inefficient way to exterminate hogs. All it does is hunt a single hog at a time and scares off the group to another property, but then come back a few weeks later.

The hunters are indeed in it for the thrill, its why we pay the landowner to hunt. Do we give a sh°t about helping them to get rid of hogs? No. We pay them for doing them a favor because it gives us something to do after deer season. I could care less about their cattle.

When I go out to my hunting lease once a month, we trap and kill 17 to 20 hogs a month, in 1 day. We set traps on a Thurs and hunt for a day on a Saturday.

The dickwads on these lame shows only hunt 1 hog an episode with dogs and jeeps and trucks.
Pretty much everything your not supposed to do when hunting.

The reality is, if u want to exterminate hogs efficiently, mechanical feeders, electric traps, AR 15s, silencers and nightvision is the way to go. Not a bowie knife and a pair of dogs.

Ps. Shooting is the way to go. Hog shooting is a big industry. Ammo and gun manufacturers make specially marketed ammo and fire arms specifically for hog shooting.

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