Was Ashleigh Cummings who plays Dot pregnant during the second season?
I just saw the first episode of the second season and as soon as I saw her face it was apparent how fat she'd gotten. Then later I saw her body and it was confirmed how fat she'd gotten.
So I was wondering if she was pregnant. I looked at her IMDb bio and her wikipedia page and there's nothing about her having a baby.
Are you kidding me,really you are calling her fat and body shaming her. Ashleigh is not,nor has ever been fat and if she was, why do you care. No,she is not,nor has been pregnant and she is only 23.
Here is a pic of her in "Puberty Blues" which was being filmed around the same time as MFMM... Shame on you,confirmed she is fat.
http://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb7b27UVd51r135gco1_1280.jpg
“imperfection is an altogether attainable human goal,” and “love is acceptance of imperfections.
I'm calling her fat because it's a fact. Significant weight gain from season 1 and season 2.
And pointing out a fact is not shaming. It's a fact.
Season 1
Look at her playing the tea lady starting at 11:15
http://vodlocker.com/kpptmq3d1yat
Season 2
Look at her at 19:42 it shows clearly. In the scene beginning at 34:28 they're trying to hide it, but the weight gain still shows.
http://vodlocker.com/u9v33zru3bk3
It's people like you who then add connotations to the fact of fatness. So shame on you.
No,it's people like you who "assume" someone is fat and it's not a fact. Did you weigh her yourself, I hardly think so.I showed you a picture of her,in a bikini and not fully clothed. There are additional pictures of her as well,during that time period wearing a gown ect.. Which clearly shows she is not fat and why even ask. What is the point you are trying to make. So yes, shame on you for body shaming and yes it is "body shaming" even if it were a fact.
You don't know even know what body shaming is. SHAME ON YOU
Body shaming is defined as inappropriate negative statements and attitutes toward another person's weight or size. It can also reach into the discrimination against individuals who may be overweight.
“imperfection is an altogether attainable human goal,” and “love is acceptance of imperfections.
Please relax, this is just a comment section. Your comment is like an attack from one of those social justice warriors with lots of time on their hands and not dealing with real human nature.
I strongly oppose bullying and shaming, but at the same time, there are things like freedom of speech and objective observation. Just because an observation is not a compliment, or because it's not "nice" or politically correct, or because some people view it as a morally bankrupt thing to say,....well that does not make it so.
There is such a thing as being so sensitive that you're obscuring an observation. Women average between 18%-30% body fat. Guess what? That's fat. Fat that can be measured. In and of itself it is neither good nor bad, it simply is. An observation. The OP made a comment. Asked a question. They don't need a lecture on your moral beliefs (anymore than I really need to be making one here simply defending an individual's perspective and viewpoint).
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Yes,lets defend them,do you defend racist remarks to. Freedom of speech and all.
How is body shaming defined?
Body shaming is defined as inappropriate negative statements and attitudes toward another person's weight or size. It can also reach into the discrimination against individuals who may be overweight. In particular, there are negative attitudes in the media and elsewhere about celebrities who are "too fat" or who have not gotten rid of "baby weight" in an appropriate amount of time. A backlash against body shaming has resulted in the coining of the term itself and attempts to bring a more positive attitude toward diverse body sizes and styles.
From a human resources standpoint, body shaming in the workplace could lead to a lawsuit. From a parenting standpoint, it is important to be sure that your children are not being victimized for being a few pounds overweight. Children who are cyber bullied may be too embarrassed to tell their parents, and can be ridiculed in social networks. Body shaming, fat shaming, and other bullying can create negative self images, and if your kid turns out to be the bully you could end up on the wrong end of a lawsuit.
“imperfection is an altogether attainable human goal,” and “love is acceptance of imperfections.
I completely agree with you. We need to start by redefining the terms being used. For one thing, if you're fat, own up to it. For another, it is uncalled for for another person to make negative comments or attacks on you because of your size.
But you also cannot deny human nature and suppress it. We are all aware of appearance. An objective observation and general inquiry as to body fat is not an attack. It is simply a question. Fat is a real term for a composition within the body. Such as bone, muscle, tissue. It's organic.
If we worried more about how we compote ourselves and worried less about trying to control everyone else, the change of acceptance would eventually come about. I acknowledge that as I preach this, I'm also denouncing preaching others.
And to answer your question, yes, I would defend someone's right to voice their opinion regarding anything, including race. We cannot stifle opinions. We can enforce rules regarding social behaviour, tolerance, acceptance, legality.
But to quash dialogue and attempt to force about a change to your opinion as being the only single opinion that matters is dangerous.
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Your reply implies that being fat is wrong,which it isn't. I'm not trying to control anyone. Change comes about when we can admit that body shaming, bullying,racism ect exists and learn not to hide behind 'freedom of speech' and or use it as excuse to be morally bankrupt.
Body shaming is not just for fat people either and includes skinny people and or people that have,scars,pimples,tattoo's or just doesn't conform to what someone else preconceived ideas of what they should look like.
Calling something free speech does not vindicate it. It doesn't make it polite, correct, or even marginally acceptable in civilized society. The sole and only thing it means is that it's not against the law.
Speech can be offensive, morally repugnant and appallingly stupid. We can condemn, malign and mock people for what they say. All free speech means is that we can't lock them up because of the content of their speech.
Speech is legal. That doesn't make it right, good or socially acceptable, it just means the law has no hold on you.
The worst thing we can do, maybe even worse than perpetuating shame, is standing silently and watching it happen. If you know something is wrong, and you sit idly by, you have done as much harm. Would the OP walk up to Ashleigh and say 'your really fat in season 2,did you have a baby'..
You speak about squashing dialogue,at what point did I do that. When did I say,that only my opinions matter. I could ask all my friends to come over and give you their opinion on body shaming. I can assure you that my 'singular' opinion about 'body shaming' isn't so 'singular after all.
You can defend your friends as much as you like,but don't forget my right to an opinion and freedom of speech. If you are using hate speech don't expect people to not use their free speech to tell you how they feel or what I like to call how it is.
“imperfection is an altogether attainable human goal,” and “love is acceptance of imperfections.
This is where you may have a difficult time understanding the concept of what I am saying. I fully support you saying what you are choosing to say as well. You have that right, and it would be nice (though not mandatory) if you were thankful and understood how and why you've got that right. But that's neither here nor there.
I support the right to free speech. And that means your right to choose PC formatted speech, and it supports members of the KKK having the freedom to express their vocal opinions. None of this means I agree with either of you, nor am I claiming I disagree.
What I'm saying is that our behaviours are what matters. Your comment suggests if there's even a remote possibility that a comment by a total stranger might possibly be considered "rude" or "inappropriate," no one should ever open their mouth up and utter such words. Thus, stifling their speech. Your statement indicates you only support this speech if it aligns with your own, which is that we must all play nice, live in peace and love each other.
Yes, that is idyllic, and yes, I believe that would be nice, and yes I am a kind person to others. If I say something, I own it. I am simply indicating that there are such things as observable, clinical observations that are not based on only making another person feel good. They are simply an expression of an opinion without judgment. The OP simply made an observation without an attack.
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I agree with you, definitely she has gained weight. So was she pregnant, they always hid her lower part of her body, or very loose clothing. Question, why would someone get so upset about this. It's not like she is obese, she just looked like you do when you are pregnant.
shareAshleigh Cummings was asked to gain weight as she was 20 years younger than Essie Davies and had a rocking’ figure during the shoot of Puberty Blues. Essie Davies had gained five pounds by the second season and Ashleigh Cummings would have outshone her. Miss Fisher in the books is closer to Ashleigh Cummings who was supposed to have a boyish wispy thin 1920s figure. In some shots, Ashleigh Cummings clothing is purposely padded and always her dresses are 1920s baggy drop waist. After Miss Fisher, Ashleigh Cummings lost the weight quickly and her face was thin again. She had been made to look frumpy on purpose. Her clothes were cut boxy. That’s Hollywood, even in Australia.
shareIt was actually fashionable to be a bit soft in the 1920s, so to get the absolutely correct period look a modern actress might need to gain a couple of pounds. Small boobs and narrow hips may have been in fashion during the 1920s, but defined and other indicators of low body fat definitely weren't.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/7b/5f/74/7b5f7421ffe074862555ab5f7999a083--ziegfeld-follies-vintage-pictures.jpg
Anyway, I always thought that Cummings was a bit of a miscast, she was just to beautiful to play Dot. Dot was written as rather plain in the books, and while younger than Phryne, she wasn't young enough to be her daughter.
She was the maid/companion in the series - is it different in the books? Either way very very pretty.
shareIn the books Dot the maid-and-companion was written as rather plain, usually dressed in brown and with a powerful "good Catholic girl" aura. Her age was never stated, but she was 5-10 years younger than Miss Fisher, who was in her late 20s.
So Cummings was a bit miscast, as she was young enough to be the Miss Fisher's daughter and IMHO more beautiful than her employer! But then, I've always considered Essie Davis to be a slight miscast, purely on the grounds of her age. She was in her forties when the series started, definitely too old to be playing the flapper and perving on college boys! No, the Miss Fisher of the books was in her late 20s, young enough to still be deciding what she wanted to do with her life, and not too much older than the college boys. In the 1920s a woman in her early forties was expected to be busying herself with her grandchildren, not dancing the Charleston.
little-doh! I misunderstood - but the books sound like they are worth a read.
shareThe books are some of my favorite of all time, they are 100% enjoyable! Everything I like - fun, sex, humor, adventure, clever characters, glamour, good mysteries, and the chance to explore a place I can't go myself through fiction. I mean I mean to see Australia in real life, but I can't see the Melbourne of the 1920s in real life, can I, so I'll have to see it through the eyes of a historian who writes damn good historical fiction.
IMHO the TV show may be nice, but it doesn't capture a tenth of the charm of the books.
If the picture of her in a bikini is what you consider fat,I would like to know what you consider thin. The picture was taken in 2012 when MFMM,season 2 was being filmed. It's sad that you have not considered that as you mature and get older your face fills out. The clothes she wears are very,very loose.
Body shaming,I guess ignorance is bliss.
Various pictures of Ashleigh in 2012 and 2013
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http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Ashleigh+Cummings/2nd+Annual+AACTA+Awards+Arrivals+Awards+Room/f57KMDptotk
Here chubby face but thin arms,this is the same time as the bikini photo.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2662129/Puberty-Blues-star-Ashleigh-Cummings-debuts-edgy-new-look-stars-dark-teen-angst-drama-Galore.html
“imperfection is an altogether attainable human goal,” and “love is acceptance of imperfections.
I noticed as well. Being a larger than what is considered average person myself I can't help but feel like she did not get so much "fat" as larger. When I hear the word "fat" I think of obese, which she is not and has never appeared, in my opinion.
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