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Knowing Sheen is HIV+ is very creepy watching him kiss all these women


damn.

https://youtu.be/93sGUFpVxFI

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I don't get it.

Are you saying that you think you can get HIV from kissing? If that's the case, why would you make such a post knowing that you have no idea how HIV can be transmitted? Weird.

Or are you saying that people with illness shouldn't be kissed? Cruel.

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by laballatician
» Sun Jan 31 2016 19:56:26
IMDb member since November 2001
I don't get it.

Are you saying that you think you can get HIV from kissing? If that's the case, why would you make such a post knowing that you have no idea how HIV can be transmitted? Weird.

Or are you saying that people with illness shouldn't be kissed? Cruel.


Pot. Kettle. Black. High Smug Alert. You are REALLY DEFENDING someone who hides their HIV status from fellow actors in romantic situations? Really?

In the case of Cautious Charlie, who on screen often went way beyond just a peck on the cheek, and IRL went beyond just having vanilla sex with a clown car of mixed sexes, why did YOU make a post knowing that YOU have no idea how HIV can be transmitted? Better hurry up and tell the CDC that YOU are more of an expert on how HIV spreads than they are: I highlighted in red so your insuferable smugness can't miss it! Yes, there are certain situations where you CAN get HIV from kissing. Duh. Bon appetit!

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/transmission.html

Contact between broken skin, wounds, or mucous membranes and HIV-infected blood or blood-contaminated body fluids.

Deep, open-mouth kissing if both partners have sores or bleeding gums and blood from the HIV-positive partner gets into the bloodstream of the HIV-negative partner.

HIV is not spread through saliva.

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I'm surprised everyone is surprised. I asked a long time ago if the actresses got HAZARD PAY for kissing him in TWO AND A HALF MEN.

And to the previous poster you CAN get it from kissing!!! Especially the open mouthed stuff they do. It's supposedly less likely but it can happen...I hate it when people say stuff like that is IMPOSSIBLE.

He could even sneeze on them and they could get it. Again, less likely but possible.

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Wow that's so ignorant .. You can not get aids from kissing and to say sneezing could give you aids is ludicrous..

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Getting the hiv virus from saliva is VERY RARE , however not impossible. Like a poster said, the virus is found in saliva but would take massive amounts of infected saliva with open sores on the affected parties.

Sneezing? ? That's just ridiculous

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I know what you mean about this 'impossible' issue.

AIDS is an illness that they say cannot be cured but when Charlie explained the nature of his illness after he took the vaccination is that the way AIDS is defined, if you ever had it and it's not detectable the word for it is not 'cure' but now not-detectable AIDS.

But people have had the illness and then changed a name and got tested again and not had it... it was never like that except as a social convention, and it would be unlikely for this AIDS condition to just disappear but sometimes it does and some people are even immune in that sense.

AIDS has supposedly devastated Africa but they calculate life expectancy differently in Africa because they have a different educational system where what you get you get right away at a young age so the life expectancy number is calculated differently.

But what was the real change in this life expectancy number assuming a standardized way of calculating it?

Then there are celebrities like Freddie Mercury (who as far as I know is not from a ten commandments based faith and his religion probably has nothing against homosexuality) and EZ E (who is heavily ten commandments biased, and more about telling the kids right cuz he was confused), but these guys complain about homosexual relations as the worst thing for society and claim that doing gay stuff makes dudes want to just randomly murder people or stuff in that vein, and then they get AIDS right away and die...

Or they're afraid about "gang relations" and looking the other way and random senseless murder attempts and EZ E went the next step to create a space of understanding where someone could engage in those activities without wanting to either kill people or look the other way at senseless murder, and Freddie Mercury before his passing backed down on these notions as if it could be possible, but these are examples of people that died right away from the illness with a big smug smile on their face that their point was proven...

But we don't know what it would have been naturally. There is so much hysteria blinding of reasonable insight but we know that given the nature of the illness some assumptions would have to be wrong.

Now some even say AIDS is a choice and it makes you more internal and soft but if you take it easy, you might buy a safety zone advantage rather than burning it up... but then make it a choice and let people decide if they want it or not.

I have heard that it can transfer from a kiss or even the air but it's very very unlikely (or how would they even know the person didn't already have AIDS - when was the last AIDS test given? If it was that rare, it could easily be coincidental, especially among sub groups of people who kissed someone with AIDS at all; what else could they have done?)

But we also hear Charlie's side and the way we frame AIDS in our mind is out and out loony and not corresponding to the initial assumptions.

It's hysteria but we know the whole story is that he took steps to improve his life expectancy and make it extremely tough to transfer this 'illness' but we have to admit that the way he explained it is that the reason it cannot be cured is purely definitional to how the illness is ***defined*** ******uniquely****** but it could not be detected if he changed his name and tried to pass the highest level of detection testing.

I'm not saying that AIDS is not a real illness but the facts and figures and numbers and assumptions around it are insensible in tandem. It won't make sense.

For example, why would someone take medication for HIV if it has no symptoms other than it can lead to or spread AIDS? Why would anyone take habitual medications for an illness of this nature if they woke up feeling fine? Given what we were told, wouldn't it be more sensible for HIV to develop to AIDS before attempting treatment and even then wouldn't it make sense to apply treatments when there is another issue?

Because the first thought is that this would help the next thing kill us as our immune system is hampered.... so if we woke up fine why would we even bother with pills?

Or maybe there is a reason but it clearly is not disclosed.

But if there was a reason for *some* habitual medications, if the research was properly conducted for our benefit, the majority would have probably started where I did.... from what people were told when I was in elementary school 89-90, something like that... if the research was conducted in fairness for our benefit, rather than try to treat HIV habitually, some big names would have to be thinking of giving 'extra pills' or maybe even blood cell boosters (if that was available) when the patient had another sickness or a fever... that would have been a reasonable place for someone to start but the pressure for habitual treatment when you make it that big and that grand as a standardized approach, the treatments have ****clearly**** been corrupted given the first notions disclosed on the nature of the illness.

And I think if it was defined within normal boundaries for better comparison with other illnesses, an established easy to reproduce and cheap cure has been available for thirty years, almost as long as the illness, if more cures are not available on top of this one.

Quite frankly if I had to guess, I would bet on Sheen giving himself AIDS to prove a point.... maybe thinking it would boost his acting to get behind something big like AIDS research, buy him some good will...

Regardless AIDS research (or AIDS 'beliefs') is not foundationally solid... what we have been cultured to believe will not add up to a congruent picture, so I believe Charlie.

I think he found a way to 'undetectable AIDS' and I think the way it's designed for obvious reasons unless he changes his identity he cannot be cured... but that would be the next step if he wanted a full cure and people fighting it are scared of an evil that they themselves are propagating.

Cuz it never made sense before he said this stuff either, how they were going about 'treating' the problem.

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The worst part of AIDS is being afraid of being ostracized and then for what it is that mental fear creates much much more death and there is no risk here and we need people to stop being afraid in that way because then these people become more sickly and more dangerous and in a way if they become more mentally sick they will spread it in the world. Something must be done. World leaders know about cures but will not give them to people because they feel the mental effect is too great relative to the physical issue that it's really a mind problem. But maybe a vaccination would help give these people hope and I think it's great this man has put his life on the line to give hope. Jerk.

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The worst part of AIDS is being afraid of being ostracized and then for what it is that mental fear creates much much more death and there is no risk here and we need people to stop being afraid in that way because then these people become more sickly and more dangerous and in a way if they become more mentally sick they will spread it in the world. Something must be done. World leaders know about cures but will not give them to people because they feel the mental effect is too great relative to the physical issue that it's really a mind problem. But maybe a vaccination would help give these people hope and I think it's great this man has put his life on the line to give hope. Jerk.


How old are you? I could not read your post, since you do not use punctuation. Try using some commas and throw some periods in there while you are at it little guy. Better luck next time:)

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I suspect not. It is very cool cocktail talk that you are not afraid, but why take a chance.
Oh, I have to respond to

The worst part of AIDS is being afraid of being ostracized ...

No, the worst part of AIDS is dying to AIDS related diseases.

"It's the system, Lara. People will be different after the Revolution."

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FWIW and correct me if I wrong but I don’t think they really do open mouth kissing in sitcoms. It’s simulated stage kissing.

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