With that combination how can it not be great.
Especially when Malekith, unleashed his spaceships onto Asgard...I just thought WOW this really is Lord of the Rings meets Star Wars. Imagine if Frodo had a spaceship or a laser gun, the books would have been a lot shorter.
how else would people travel through space exactly? Only the Asgardians and the tesseract are capable of travelling any other way. And in what way is this remotely like LOTR? LOTR is an epic war story at its base. Star wars is just soap opera with a water thin reality designed to sell toys from the start. The thor/avengers movies are a distillation of the very best of the comics while throwing out years and years of nonsensical or absolutely laughable garbage in them. They are turning a lot of very bad writing with a few plot GEMS into an epic via the movies. A reversal of the norm.
shareOne problem, other then dising the Holy Trilogy. If Asgardians are the only ones who can travel between the 9 realms, how did the Jotuns attack earth in prehistory?
I reserve the right to be 100% wrong.
The Asgardians are not the only ones who can move from realm to realm and there are OTHER ways besides the Bifrost.
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Under new management!
This is a real good way to describe this movie to those that don't know what it's about. It hits a fun and satisfying place that other Marvel stuff doesn't. It's such a different tone than Iron Man and Captain America. Variety is the spice of life.
sharefantasy and sci-fi imagery has been a common visual theme of thor comics since day one. Lucas was heavily influenced by kirby's work
“The almighty tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he’s pretty sure you’re fvcked”
Didn't Lucas also say he took themes and story right from Marvel? I thought he said he copied Dr. Doom for his Lord Vader.
shareI agree that this film was better than both the last two Hobbit movies.
shareMore like Lord of the Rings meets Stargate.
shareThat might be a better comparison. Stargate is actually smarter than Star Wars and fits Marvel's style better. Lucas proved he couldn't capture lightning in a bottle twice with those awful prequels.
shareStargate the TV series took the movie to the next level. As much as I like Agents of SHIELD, it still can't compare to these movies.
shareLOL That's what I thought, too! I was like, "What movie am I WATCHING???"
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"Could you please get your head out of your ass? It's not a hat!" - Pitch Perfect
LOTR on it's best day was never this good.
shareLOTR on it's best day was never this good.I'm not a huge fan of LOTR, but they're definitely higher quality than the Thor movies. There's a lot of dumb stuff in this movie... like powerful Asgard being beaten by one ship that they should be 5,000 years more advanced than or the movie making jokes even though Thor's mom and brother both died in the last two days. This is a dumb fun action movie, not a noteworthy film.
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Everything about both Thor movies are as noteworthy as anything we've seen in at least four of the LOTR films.
shareTo be honest, these films crush the Hobbit.
shareI think this did it better than Guardians of the Galaxy because of the LOTR flavor.
shareI am so sad but I agree.
I've been a Tolkien reader since I was young and while I was overly excited about LOTR trilogy (I love it!) and endlessly apologetic about Hobbit 1 (which everyone around me seemed to hate but I did find some good points in it), Hobbit 2 was such a pile of sh!t (and I rarely say that) that I had to admit defeat. Peter Jackson, when it comes to Tolkien, lost his mojo. I'm not even excited about part 3 anymore.
Marvel, on the other hand, pleasantly surprises me with each new instalment. I hope this lasts.
Whoa! I had to double check and see if it was me who wrote what you just said. I feel exactly the same way. What blew me away is how critics seemed to really like DOS over AUJ further validating how all these critic scores are pretty much meaningless.
I will say that the last trailer for BOFA made me start to become a little hopeful again but I can't decide if it was just because they used Pippin singing The Edge of Night from the Return of the King as a backdrop.
To be honest, no they don't and this is coming from some that loves the Thor movies but they don't crush The Hobbit. Sorry, but obviously the box office disagrees with you assessment.
Thor
$449,326,618
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey
$1,017,003,568
Thor: The Dark World
$644,783,140
The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug
$958,366,855
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"We're going to see the elves!"
Yeah but to be honest how much of the hype and box office for the Hobbit was because of Peter Jackson and Lord of the Rings. The Hobbit has traded a lot of its success off the legions of fans from both the books and LOTR movies.
Thor in the Marvel Universe is not as loved and understood as some of the other characters.
That's true and no the they aren't as good as Lord of the Rings by a long shot. But many people obviously disagree with the poster's above insinuation that the movies are crap. Even though lovers of the LOTR movies and the Hobbit book got people in the theater, people still enjoyed the movies because weeks later, not just opening weekend people were pouring into theaters to see the films.
If no one cared for them, it would not have made as much as it did is the point I'm trying to make. Plus Thor is known very well now with the hype over Marvel and it still didn't make nearly as much as The Hobbit, but I still think those movies are amazing and in some ways more enjoyable than The Hobbit. They are just on different levels and ultimately have a different set of followers. I don't know why some people feel the need to rip one movie just because they prefer another one over it.
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"We're going to see the elves!"
I can't speak for the person you replied to, but I often voice my displeasure with The Hobbit franchise because I was so excited about it and I am now so heavily disappointed by it.
All that was going through my mind during Hobbit 2 was "Why?" and "This makes no sense (the movie logic trampled the book's internal logic but failed to create new one)." and worse of all "Why did they turn Smaug into an extremely stupid creature when all they needed is to follow the book where his dialogue is actually intelligent?"
I'm not one of those people who yell "Aaaah, they changed the source material!" I know that has to be done to some extent and - for example - I understand the changes in LOTR. But here, the only reason for it seemed to be "more CGI". Plus, as my partner nicely put it, the story in Hobbit 2 was just a filler between action sequences - like in porn.
I did like the Dol Guldur parts, tho.
Both Hobbit films have to be considered a let down to the average movie fan. The die hard fans simply need to realize it.
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