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Niki's cheap shot at James


I thought it was pretty crappy when Niki tells James "No wonder she left you..." after James' wife leaves him for Richard Burton.

It's doubly crappy because James sticks up for Niki later in the movie when the reporter implies that Niki's wife will leave him because of the burns.

Howard did a great job with this movie, because he makes it easy to root for Lauda even when he was being a jerk.

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Probably something that was never said. These guys knew each other, even shared an apartment at one time and were good friends in real life. Wouldn't have made for as good a movie then without all of the supposed antagonism between them, would it?
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good friends in real life


Are you suggesting they were sometimes not good friends in a fake life?

Ask yourself and be honest with your answer, "Why did I put the word "REAL" in that sentence because it makes no sense at all."

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Probably to differentiate their relationship in REAL life from the way their relationship was portrayed in the MOVIE, Einstein.

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^ This!
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"Are you suggesting they were sometimes not good friends in a fake life?
Ask yourself and be honest with your answer, "Why did I put the word "REAL" in that sentence because it makes no sense at all."

What a pathetic faux-intellectual statement. To everybody with just an ounce of brain the original statement makes perfect sense. That would exclude you.

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Here's a tip: reach down with both hands, firmly grasp stick and pull out of your anus.

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Are you a jerk in REAL life or just here?

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even shared an apartment at one time and were good friends in real life
I think that would have made a far interesting movie

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"Probably something that was never said. These guys knew each other, even shared an apartment at one time and were good friends in real life. Wouldn't have made for as good a movie then without all of the supposed antagonism between them, would it?"


I read the book "Rush To Glory" and even though Hunt and Lauda became good friends, there was a time during their rivalry when things weren't so civil between them. There were lots of back and forth words (and even antics) between their two respective camps that weren't so friendly. Near the end of that championship year, the two had to meet in a hotel restaurant in order to finally patch up their differences.

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To be fair, in the film James had hardly always been kind to Nikki had he?

Calling him a rat, that no one liked him, that he was boring etc

I loved the film and felt although it was a cheap shot, it was reflective of the relationship that they had in the film.


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As I wrote a few days ago, chances are what was seen on screen in this case never happened. Probably quite a few other things as well never happened, as I wrote, "in real life." Hunt and Lauda were good friends and even shared a flat (apartment) at one time. I think most of this friction was written into the story to elevate the "drama" as if what really happened off the track was boring. Perhaps it was and that's why all of the artistic license was taken.
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The comment made sense in the context of the movie, regardless of whether it happened or not; Hunt calling him a 'rat' was a cheap shot too.

I thought the movie made it clear that it was Hunt who left his wife. That made Niki's comment even more childish and ignorant.

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ah but thats the nazi in that austrian lowlife

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Not really. It is two very different things.

Character is controllable. If a person has a problem (in this case: divorce) because of his/her character, then such a statement makes sense. It can also be said to make the person see his wrongs.

What had happened to Lauda was due to an accident. It was something he really didn't have control of, and his face was a natural result of that accident. Now giving a statement about that is morally wrong.

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The guy called him a cheater and a rat, Niki's response wasn't nice...but it was understandable from my point of view.

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And yet it didn't seem he made the comment with any maliciousness in mind at all. Lauda sincerely wanted to help Hunt, he felt his care-free attitude held him back from being as great as he could be, and that his failed marriage was a symptom of this and, as such, proved Lauda's point.

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It's a situation where in the movie it's not like one of them is the designated bad guy while the other is supposed to be the hero, both are show with faults. Yeah what Niki said was kind of harsh, but James had his share of *beep* moments in the film too(like basically turning the whole room against Niki when he was trying to convince them that racing in the rain was unsafe). The point is that neither one of them are supposed to perfect human beings, and it's up to the audience to decide which one they prefer, not what the movie wants us to prefer.

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Niki Lauda was and is a major douchebag.

I hate him immensly in this movie and in real life

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Niki Lauda was and is a major douchebag.



Some say he just comes off that way because he has no filter - he speaks his mind

Then again, that is indeed one of the qualities that defines a "douchebag"

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Whether he actually said it or not, it was true. It wasn't cheap. It was honest.

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