Glam Metal


I thought the episode on glam metal was overly critical of the bands in that genre in its heyday. The theme of the episode seemed to be that glam died because it had no substance, which provided the hole for grunge to fill.

I think that's overly simplistic. There are copycats and hangers-on in every genre, but the best bands in glam sang and played like virtuosos. And I think the substance of grunge is overrated. I loved Nirvana, but a lot of their lyrics are nonsensical, although they sound good.

Compare them to the lyrics of a band like White Lion (one of those 'insubstantial' glam bands), such as the song "Little Fighter", about a Greenpeace boat. (And I can't even comment on Pearl Jam's lyrics because I couldn't understand what they were saying. How does that one song go? "Ee-oh, gabba gabba gabba, something about concrete.")

It's decades after glam metal and grunge were big, and, when I'm driving in my car, I am more inclined to put in a Ratt CD than one by any grunge band.

Jaan Pehechan Ho

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It couldn't last forever. The people that listened to that kinda music had to move on eventually. There was no younger generation of glam fans that were going to get into it.

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Yeah...agreed.

And once Guns N Roses came out, it pretty much ended all things Glam. It gave a new fresh look to hair metal..one that was darker and serious instead of all the makeup and big hair.

All trends change, and Glam had its day and it was great, and then it died.

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From what I recall, glam was huge up until around '91 then took a nosedive at the end of that year.

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I do not really find Guns N Roses all that serios... sure, they might've been more serious and more musician-like, not just for the looks of it, but their music still was in that glam metal category, blending some songs with more serious lyrical content together with party anthems. Guns N Roses had a bad boy attitude as oppossed to the sissy attitude of the earlier glam bands. That is what made the difference (same with Skid Row, which I consider far better and more serious than Guns). As for being darker... I really have trouble in seeing something dark in this music, really. The only real dark glam band (that was more at the edge of the scene in their hey day) was WASP. Both in atmosphere and in lyrical content (especially in the late 80s - early 90s).

Same like in thrash, glam metal suffered from being formulaic. You can go as far as it did with repeating the same album and the same songs. It did not matter how good they were in what they were playing, it is just that people get fed up and want something new, and new generations come up with their own views and tastes.

I do not agree with the assumption that glam metal could not reinvent itself and lives on nostalgia. Yeah, the 80s bands, very few of them can cope with their 80s playing style and very few of them managed to reinvent themselves. But there is a whole new palette of glam/sleaze band still going strong like Steel Panther, Crashdiet and so on. This kind of music is part of the popular culture, so I doubt it will ever fade away. It will change, but in essence it won't fade away.

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The genre won't totally fade away, but nothing that will ever be huge or anything like that.

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It does not need to be as big as it was back in the 80s. And for this kind of music there will definitely be an audience. Glam metal is one of the very few genres that really became part of the popular culture. Even if its glorious past won't be revived, it will still thrieve.

And what people do not like about is that... *beep* as they were, some of these bands did compose timeless anthems that are still played 30 years after they were released. A day does not pass without hearing an 80s Scorpions song, some Bon Jovi, some Cinderella, some Motley Crue, Warrant, Def Leppard, Skid Row, GNR and so on.

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