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first episode great spoilers


Just watching the first episode.
I was born in 1960 so I don't have much personal memories of the 1960s,but being a history nut and collector of old stuff this looks good to me.

I think it is really hard to get across the way that Britain was much more formal then than it is now,if you look at news film actually filmed in the 1960s you see people speaking and dressing is much more conservative than you might imagine.
Perhaps this drama is guilty of people dressing and speaking too hip in their first year at university?
The first episode is set during Churchill's funeral,doubt that many were as uninvolved as most of the students in this.

Love the radical guy whose dad is a tory mp,many of us have met people like him.
Of course the music is great.

This is similar to OUR FRIENDS IN THE NORTH,but with black people and gays this time.

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Your chances of rooming with a gay person in 1965 were about as low as your chances of rooming with a West Indian on a scholarship. Chances of sexually assaulting a vertiginously poised female flatmate on the first day without her falling off the roof or knocking you off would also be nil.

Where is Michael Wearing when you need him? Ou sont les Bleasdales d'Antane?

This was a bit flat throughout and no threat to the 2012 bar set by Prisoners' Wives.

Nevertheless, having MyAnna Buring and Claire Foy undress once an episode will guarantee an audience. And with Juliet Stevenson, Lindsay Duncan and Michael Kitchen there must be a few treats in store, mustn't there?

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I lost interest after half an hour. I consider myself an aficionado of 60s London, because uncle Tom lived there and we used to visit during Wimbledon. I even managed to lose my sister in Barking once, although the fooking police stopped torturing suspects long enough to bring her back, the corrupt bastards.

Casting a bit catch-penny and characters predictable, COMbbc-philistinism-for-the-use-of. Despite the obscene manoeuve of nailing an advert on the end to spoil the next episode, I'll try again in honour of Foyle.

Marlon, Claudia and Dimby the cats 1989-2005, 2007 and 2010.

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It was Honeysuckle Weeks that kept me loyal. To Foyle.

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Random access killed vinyl. And cassette. And VCR.

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It has risen from the dead. Only recently have people started pressing 'new' vinyl.

But random access was the murderer. In the living room. With the remote control.

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Curious kids like my daughter are responsible. My turntable hadn't ben used for 15 years when she bought a Dansette on eBay and started playing through my equally untouched stack of discs. Now it's all plugged in to a studio-nostalgia set up in my shed. Windows 95. CRT monitor, R&R monitor speakers, Yamaha CR600 and we all sit round for 5 minutes a year saying how great it sounds and much better things were back in the day.

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You lad....(laugh)

Marlon, Claudia and Dimby the cats 1989-2005, 2007 and 2010.

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You seem to have missed the point,(perhaps you missed the show being an American?)but one of the characters made the point you make,the landlord/radical has chosen the flatmates as some sort of social experiement,it is part of the plot.
I am not saying this is the greatest thing ever made but it is only the first episode and hopefully it will get better.

There were gay people in 1965 Britain,and non gay people did have sex,this is a drama not a documentary.
I find if I watch a documentary from the 1960s it often seems both more backward and more modern than I expect.

The BBC bashing is all very DAILY MAIL/SKY/TIMES/SUN but if I had a choice between never watching the BBC again and never watching ITV then I would keep BBC.

Do we think that WHITE HEAT is worse than HE KILLS COPPERS or THE LONG FIRM?
I love OUR FRIENDS IN THE NORTH but it was not perfect,as you will see if you watch it again.
As for the makers of OUR FRIENDS IN THE NORTH having a free hand,I seem to recall the writer had the script for years and it took years to get it made,all the better for it because it meant the story was covered a long time period.

People are never happy with period dramas,if they have too much detail they are boring,if they ignore stuff for dramatic effect they get attacked for being unfactual.

There was a thing called IN A LAND OF PLENTY which was made by the BBC bit it did not have the impact OUR FRIENDS IN THE NORTH had.














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Huzzah! A Daily Mail reference! About goddamn time I say!

Arguably, the Beeb’s main problem with much of its televisual output these days is how tiresomely predictable it’s drama serials are, in no small due to an unhealthy combination of declining standards in scriptwriting and creatively stifling left wing politics.

Indeed, the formerly peerless corporation seems to veer dangerously close at times to producing drama programmes, purported to have mass appeal, yet in reality simply appear to serve the interests of The Guardian’s dwindling readership and not much else. Crucially, viewers are more cynical on average now than they’ve ever been and are unlikely to take kindly to the sort of politically on-song, ‘edutainment’ cobblers that ‘White Heat’ is shaping up to be.

Incidentally, it’s also no coincidence that viewers are currently switching off in droves from Upstairs Downstairs, which similarly suffers from the same sort of issues that White Heat appears to be afflicted with. Specifically the characters in both shows (admittedly it’s still early days for White Heat) appear to blatant anachronisms of the periods that they exist in and are consequently unconvincing to say the least. That’s either bad writing or deliberate…. or more likely a bit of both I’d imagine.

Perhaps the true issue here is that many modern white, middle class writers seem obsessed with racial, sexual and/or minority issues to an almost debilitating degree and feel the perpetual need to weave such issues into their work incessantly. Indeed, it’s almost like a rite of passage for your budding script writer to piously lecture viewers about homophobia and ‘w’acism, for the umpteenth bloody time! Change the record ffs.

Like I say: “predictable”.

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~~~~~in no small due to an unhealthy combination of declining standards in scriptwriting and creatively stifling left wing politics.~~~~~

Crapwriting to be sure but COMbbc has never been left-wing. Note that in tonight's episode of anachronistic dialogue the telly news referred to the "Viet Cong"?

Marlon, Claudia and Dimby the cats 1989-2005, 2007 and 2010.

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I don't buy this leftie BBC drama thing either; we should be so lucky. Where are the new generation of Dennis Potters, Alan Bleasdales, Johnny Speights or Ken Loachs.

If anything you could accuse BBC drama of having a clumsy liberal Oxbridge sensibilty.

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A bit ponderous. But, "The Hour" was a bit slow to get going and I ended up loving that. So, I'll certainly stick with this for the time being... Hadn't really engaged with any of the characters by the end of the episode and, to be honest, I think there's a couple too many of them and the artist, the Irish doormat and the Indian guy got a bit lost in the background... Couldn't get interested in the present day bits at all. But, I suppose that'll change as we find out what happened between them... So, not perfect. But, interesting, fab period detail and, as always, Tamsin Greig is wonderful.

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I agree, it seems pretty good so far and I would imagine it will pick up a bit as the series progresses... And yes, Tamsin Greig was wonderful (again).

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