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Not showing Elle Fanning nude was corny


If ur making an edgy movie you should be edgy throughout.

https://youtu.be/93sGUFpVxFI

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Do you think Elle Fanning nude is edgy?

Honey, people believe what they are told

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she was 16 at the time so yes.

https://youtu.be/93sGUFpVxFI

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Since she was a minor, it would have been illegal. It's entirely possible that some would label it as child pornography.

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Not really, depends on how they did it. Recall that Thora Birch was 16 when she did the topless scene in "American Beauty", her parents consented.

Still, I strongly disagree with the opening comment here, there are always a few guys with teenager mentality who want to see a pretty young girl nude. The scene where the photographer dismissed everyone else and had Jesse undress was suggestive enough, we didn't need to see her nude. Plus the scene suggested that he talked her into having sex. Jesse was not as unspoiled as she first seemed. She understood what was necessary to get ahead.

To me the way the filmmaker showed this demonstrates that you can indeed portray these things without resorting to graphic images. Often the imagination is even more powerful.

..*.. TxMike ..*..

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there are always a few guys with teenager mentality who want to see a pretty young girl nude


Oh because once you hit 20, teenage girls become ugly. Right?

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Yea and Keira Knightley was as well for The Hole. Its weird how just getting permission from a parent to appear nude when you are a minor allows you to shirk breaking any laws. Permission doesnt change that you are STILL a minor.

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So, just to clarify, showing underage nudity in films is not illegal, so long as the parents consent? I ask because I heard of a similar story where a producer got really pissed that they weren't showing Alicia Silverstone's underage boobs in The Crush and I was thinking, "Why isn't the producer worried about getting fucking arrested!?"

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Yes, non-sexual nudity of a minor is completely legal. Similarly, non-sexual nudity is not automatically an R rating for a movie, like in Titanic.

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"Recall that Thora Birch was 16 when she did the topless scene in "American Beauty", her parents consented."

That doesn't make it right.

Pedos will do anything to justfy showing underage children in various stages of nakedness and sexuality. They do it to glorify their sickness and try to get you to accept it as normal. It isn't.

As you said, there are many ways to show what is going on without actually showing what is going on. Or how about just stop making films pushing it in the first place?

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A pedophile would not be interested in a 16 year old. That term is horribly misused.

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Technically, yes, as the correct word should be hebephile.

I don't think there is a word for someone who wants to see underage children naked because they get off on it so for general purposes, pedo should suffice for generalisation.

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She's not under-aged. Most of us don't live in sexually repressed states.

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It depends on what country (or state of that country) it was filmed in as to whether she is underage or not.

As it was filmed in LA, California, where the legal age of consent is 18, it would most likely be considered underage (although most people probably will say nothing about that).

Undressing a (legal) child for the purpose of entertainment of pushing an agenda is just wrong.

Laws are there to protect children against all forms of exploitation from those who would abuse them in whatever form. That is why they are legally called children and not adults.

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The funny thing about this thread is the fact that no one is bringing up the necrophilia and the cannibalism in this film but the possibility of showing someone under 18 nude is what freaks people out. LMAO!

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Surely you jest....there have been oodles of examples of nude underage scenes in Hollywood.

http://www.imdb.com/list/ls070776357/




Whose idea was it for the word "Lisp" to have an "S" in it?

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I was expecting there to be a scene like that but I was disappointed that the whole scene of them eating her was glossed over. I guess they were concerned about offending Puritans. Maybe there will be a director's cut with a complete scene.

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I'd bet Puritans make up a very small part of his target audience. A wiser suggestion is that the filmmaker decided either (1) doing it believably would cost too much or (2) he wanted viewers to use their imagination which on this type of story element can work better than showing it graphically. The blood-covered ladies was plenty graphic to stimulate your imagination if you let it.

NB - The "cost" consideration was significant, the filmmaker mentions it in his commentary, so anything they could do to tell the story he wanted while keeping costs down was a priority.

Jesse

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Don't be a perv. She was underage. Unless you are 15/16 years old this should not concern you - seeing a underage girl naked. And the movie worked perfectly without it. I felt it worked extremely well not seeing it. And that's because the actress did a phenomenal job.

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Don't be a prude. It would have been perfectly legal for her to be nude. If you can't accept that then that is your problem not ours.

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Yes, finding beauty in the naked body is perverted. It must be STOPPED.

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You are speaking to an artist who paints nude bodies on a regular... I'm no prude. But I have a 16 year old sister and the idea of the male gaze at her underage body makes me sick and want to curb stomp. Lol

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I understand how you feel, but being an adult and finding teenagers attractive is perfectly natural. Now, with society being the way it is, it is usually a very bad idea to, as an adult, engage sexually or romantically with a teenager. But appreciating someone's beauty is not the same as being physically or emotionally intimate with them.

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