Bret easton ellis


The theme is very much along the lines of his works. I wonder what he thought about the movie

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I agree and also thought it was very "Bret-esque." Most all the characters are unlikable, the worship of self/$/materialism /ect, sex and so on..,A lot of Ellis themes. I wonder of NWR is a fan and was partially inspired by Ellis' work, as he clearly was with Kubrick's?

As far as what Ellis thinks of the movie if he saw it (which I bet he did..), well there's no telling with Bret. Some other films out there even Moreso Blatently are inspired by his work and he typically dislikes/hates it for some reason. Like the Gregg Araki film "Nowhere," which has Very similar themes and even pays direct homage to Bret by having characters qoute a couple lines from his book "Less Than Zero." I realize Araki's Style is definitely not for everyone, but Bret has went on record stating he Hates the film. I love both artists' work, and get if Bret just didn't like the film/it's styld/ect; but come on Araki clearly Loves his work and is paying homage to your art. I don't get why he hates that and isn't just flattered? :/

The other most infamous example is the comedy "Zoolander," which Bret not only has stated he loathes, but says the creators Stole his ideas from his novel "Glamorama." (the novel that Probably inspired "The Neon Demon" the most..) And I understand that Zoolander and Glamorama have Very similar and even some Same themes. (super vain/brainwahsed models working as assassins/ect..) But come on Zoolander is an absurdist style comedy that mainstream audiences are meant to understand and laugh at. Glamorama, like pretty much all of Ellis' work, is Much more Deeply Cynical, the humor at times so dark you could call it somewhat Nihilistic. Definitely NOT a silly comedy like Zoolander, and not realy something Most Mainstream readers will even "get" or enjoy. I personally love Ellis' novels; he's actually my favorite post-modern author. But that's just my taste and opinion. I also love the 1st Zoolander (my tastes in art are realy diverse..), and I can see how it was Clearly heavily inspired by Glamorama. But like I said Zoolander is an Absurdist Style comedy film that in my Opinion is still a Totally different Story/Plot than Glamorama's far deeper, dark cynical, and just Different plot. Yet Bret has publicly Bashed Zoolander and claims the creators flat out Stole his idea. I just disagree, as Much as I love Ellis' work; far more than Zoolander. I think the creators just once again Loved Bret's work, and made a Total Comedy film based on many of Glamorama's Themes and yes Part of the story; but they're Drasticly different things.
I don't understand why a lot of the time an artist references Bret's work he seems to hate it. ?? I personally would be flattered, even if I didn't enjoy the other artist's work. But hey, I'm not him, so that's his opinion. There's a lot of other artists who I can tell were largly (Harmony Korine's work; noteably "Spring Breakers.") or minorly ("Dexter") influenced by, or reference Bret; and I'd add Refn's The Neon Demon for sure. But as far as those two film's I have Heard/read Bret's opinion on, it seems as if he doesn't like having homage payed to him. No idea Why; but it's his right of course.

So Bret Easton Ellis either hated The Neon Demon or loved it, is my opinion. I personally Love All the movies/novels/art I mentioned here. And The Neon Demon is my pick for top film of 2016!!

-deadpopstar

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I agree, for what I have read of Ellis, in regards to the theme of cruelty and beauty, however this film I think has a very feminine point of view, and I see Ellis' work having a very masculine point of view. However the character of the cynical photographer did remind me characters of Ellis' novels.

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Yes agreed. Brett definitely has a far more masculine view; esp in novels like American Psycho, but his first book Less Than Zero focuses on a pretty feminine bi-sexual male and I feel that novel (parts of others..) does in fact have some femininity to it. Also Bret himself is bisexual, idk if that realy matters or not..
But yes, The Neon Demon I Feel is kinda like the female conterpart of NWR's film Drive; which imo was Very masculine/male energy charged. Yes Bronson certainly was, but I kinda set that (stellar) movie on another shelf, and see Drive/Only God Forgives/The Neon Demon as a Loose trillogy somewhat.. And God Never Forgives I see kinda a Balance of both male and female energy in it. But that's just my own ideas.
The Neon Demon is Still far more feminine-view/ect than all of Bret's work and NWR's prior films. And yeah the pretentious/cynical photographer was much like an Ellis character.ha.

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...You just reminded me, I still need to read Less than Zero. I saw the film, but I know it is very different from the book. Must get a copy of the book asap because I think it' s going to be just right up my sleeve! I love those kind of charachters.

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Yeah if you like highly cynical/semi-nihilistic novels/films/stories; you realy must read Less Than Zero!, esp if you're a Brett fan/have enjoyed his other novels!! The film is just Totally a Different thing, other than same character Names/a Couple same and similar Basic plot points. Brett himself has said in interviews and his odd/KINDA semi-autobiographical novel "Lunar Park," just How different the novel and film realy are!!

But yeah if you're a fan of any of Brett's other novels/film adaptations done Correctly (Rules of Attraction is a stellar adaptation of the novel; though it still has some massive differences; but was done Right!..), L.T.Zero Is a Must Read!! The film Tried to be more "mainstream," which is Fine if done Correctly, but eh; the film and book are just two 100% Different Things is all. I hope (&it Sounds like!..) you Will Realy Enjoy his 1st stellar novel he wrote in collage, that gave him all the credibility that he Deserves as far as an amazing post-modern author!! :D

-deadpopstar

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If you liked 'Less than zero' novel, you should read 'Imperial Bedrooms'. It is the sequel to that. Fantastic book. I read it in 4 days. Very intriguing and suspenseful. It should be made in to a film. I would definitely see it.

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