I think there were a number of these crimes...people are stupid
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strip_search_phone_call_scam#Investigation,_arrest,_and_trial
Crazy
This is only one reason why texting is way betterπ
Mind boggling, the naivete and gullibility in this story! It's just another example of how people are sheeple and some wind up in positions of authority where they don't belong.
shareThere is only ONE person here we should blame. Not the victimised girl, not her manager, and, sorry, not even the manager's fiance. BUT the sicko who orchestrated the whole affair, and knew exactly what he was doing and the various responses it would elicit. NONE of these people would have acted this way had it not been for the caller, and it SICKENS me that anyone can blame anyone else BUT the person whose twisted actions initiated it all.
Would any of these people be in this situation if it hadn't been for the call? No. Then STOP blaming them. π ππΌ
So, according to you, the manager's fiance is not responsible for the rape, which was orchestrated by the phony cop, but not explicitly suggested.π€ You're a dumb shit but could possibly be an effective criminal defense attorney.
shareWould the manager's fiance have done anything if the phony cop hadn't made the call?
I don't know enough about the real-life case, but in the film, the fiance clearly acted perturbed and uneasy about the acts he was being instructed to carry out. I'm not saying he was innocent and that he shouldn't have been punished. But I am saying that the majority of the vitriol should be reserved for the man who orchestrated and triggered the whole abuse. All three of the individuals at the fast-food restaurant were manipulated and effectively abused by the sicko on the phone. How am I wrong in making this observation?
Oh, so according to you, mature adults should be easily conned and manipulated. In other words, it's the, "I'm not responsible, the devil made me do it" defense.
shareThe devil doesn't exist. The bastard who called up the fast-food outlet, pretending to be a cop, and manipulated these, admittedly simple-minded and deferential, individuals to commit these, admittedly horrific, acts *does*.
I never said that mature adults *should* be easily conned and manipulated, did I? Of course that's a BAD thing. But the lion's share of the vitriol should land on the POS who triggered the entire event, and not the admittedly stupid, but tragically gullible, individuals who were minding their own business and getting on with life, before he decided to get his kicks from ruining their lives.
It's completely irrelevant whether that entity exists or not. The expression is used to make a point about people who try to evade accountability.
The topic of this thread is how these supposedly mature individuals allowed themselves to be so easily deceived, not about who is primarily responsible. You've contradicted yourself on your stance several times now.
As soon as you start effectively raping someone, then any claims of manipulation as a defence pretty much go out of the window. That said, I still can't help feeling bad for all three individuals in the fast-food restaurant, because if it hadn't been for the fake 'cop', they'd have been getting on with their lives, and so, I'm divided between anger and pity with respect to the manager and her fiance in particular. Yes, what they did was abhorrent, and perhaps they get off on the power they believed the cop had bestowed them, and it goes without saying that they were weak and cowardly, but I don't think weakness and cowardice per se are 'evil' traits (even if they may lead to evil), because, once again, until this monster entered their lives with his call, they'd no doubt have happily been getting on with their lives *without* doing anyone else any harm. And that's why I'm hesitant about decrying them.
shareI think they all share part of the responsibility - though I will also agree that the hoax caller is the main guilty party.
It's like army - you have orders, but you also have the responsibility to disobey illegal orders. If you go along with the illegal orders, you then become partially responsible for the consequences - so while your superior officer will do the most time in the slammer, you'll also do a bit of time in the prison for partaking in the illegal actions.
Now, here is the bit that should get everyone enraged. The hoax caller didn't do any time - he was found innocent. The man he hoaxed into spanking the girl and having her do a sexual act on him ended up serving 5 years in prison.
I saw "Compliance" probably 5 or 6 years ago. At first, I liked it. One thought it was very original. Something out of the box. But then I remember thinking it became ridiculous. I can remember thinking, and one doesn't remember the exact moment - "This is crazy - there's no way anyone would go for this". Then, if I recall correctly, I found it was based on a true story. Well, one doesn't know how much actual truth is involved. If someone actually did go for all of that - well, hahah, I don't what to say.
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