Just saw it


and it was fantastic.

With such a delicate subject matter, it could have easily gone overboard, trying to force an emotional reaction out of us. To me, it didn't and that's part of what made it good. It walked the fine line of showing the characters step out of their comfort zone without going too far or being too forceful about it.

I enjoyed it quite a bit and would happily recommend it.

"He shall be an adder on the path, to bite a horse's heel"

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Meh, I was not impressed, the script was just bad. Its like some left wing circle jerk, as if dealing with autism in an Asian family wasn't enough, they throw in homosexuality and illegal immigration? It became almost self parody at that point.

Anyways I had to double check joan chens age, egads that woman doesn't age.

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I am watching now. Omg I loved the therapist.. she was hilarious...mimicking her parents!

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Agreed although it seems pretty obvious that scene was added into the the movie when Margaret Cho was attached to the film (although scheduling conflict) since the lines were close to word for word of Margaret Cho impersonations of her mother.

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as if dealing with autism in an Asian family wasn't enough, they throw in homosexuality and illegal immigration?

I'm sorry, I was not aware that in real life there's a quota on how many issues one has to deal with. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. From now on, any movie daring to deal with more than one issue goes right off my watch list!

...Shame it will therefore remain pretty empty. Even the shallowest romantic comedies usually present at least one dilemma running parallel with the search for love.

"He shall be an adder on the path, to bite a horse's heel"

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There isn't a quota, theres a reasonable limit where if you go over the line you damage your ability to tell a believable story. I mean after all,, why not make the autistic kid a transsexual too then? Right why not. Perhaps throw in the fact that the dad, like the actor portraying him is gay, make him bust out of the closet because of his grief...

Sorry but it does matter when you trying to tell a coherent believable story, at a certain point it becomes filler, and kind of shows the writer was padding the script by throwing everything in he could because he couldn't go deep on anything specific, just shallow shotgun approached it instead.

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...but the point of the movie was that each son suffered because they were a little bit different. Nick had AS and Chaz was gay. In the end, neither of them deserved to be a White Frog, nor do we , as we are all a little different.

I thought the movie was clean and simple in making that point, but perhaps not simple enough for you.

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I agree on some level (especially with calling the son asperger's...that would have to be extremely low functioning, what was show was more along the lines of high functioning autism) but then on others one of my closer friends when I was 19 was from a fairly religious family, youngest son (out of 5) was autistic, my friend was self identified as bi, his first girlfriend was so butch and last I heard is now a lesbian, he was then self identified as gay for 2 years and then know he's self identified as straight and married.

So it's not like it's impossible to have that much going on with 1 family.

If we did my family story there'd be mental health issues coming from my sister (high function asperger's but seriously she doesn't get social aspects at all, she's now 40 and has NEVER lived away from home, it's not because she can't take care of herself, she has a permanent job and has been in the job for 14ish years, drives shops, cooks, is self sufficient), my mothers various attempts at suicide when I was very little, my sexuality (which for Scandinavian parents was odd since it become all about them and what everyone would think about them...not about me, about them), brother constantly in trouble with the law, his run away/disappearance at 15 (reappeared 3 years later), the fact he's now a bum dad with 3 kids to 3 different women and avoids contact with them, has no permanent address, is now 38 and has never had a job.......just saying out of my family everyone but one brother has some completely unrelated issue from the others.

the illegal immigration was a such a through away thing and added nothing to the overall story and surprised it wasn't scrapped.

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Talk about racist, homophobic, narrow minded idiots. Go watch some stupid ass right wing circle jerk sh*t. You sound like an angry, white bigot. Maybe video games are more your speed as opposed to stories with problems, different people and real families.

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I liked it too.

Just a simple little film but well done. The white frog story was pretty crazy.

I'm not going to lie...it got me in the end.

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I haven't see this yet, but it does seem like it has a lot going on. Can someone tell me who is gay in this movie? Is it the autistic kid? It's on Netflix now so I might check it out.

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Autistic kid's brother who dies in the first 15minutes of the movie. That and the white guy.

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It was ok but the ending was a bit cheap in that the father's 180 wasn't believable, he spent the whole movie being both physically and emotionally abusive, has a scene with a priest about acknowledging he's a knob and then continues being physically and emotionally abusive. Honestly I'm more surprised that after the birthday party with all those witnesses (who were all children from the church) that they wouldn't have told their parents that the father went to punch his son in the face and didn't go child services on him.

It just wrecks the movie seeing him about to punch his son, actually slap his aspie son across his face, etc which really isn't what the movie was about but it's the main thing that sticks out.

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