Haha, almost as funny as being shocked to find Coke being sold in another country. Honestly, even the dumbest people in the UK aren't that dumb.
shareHaha I literally was going to make a thread with the same title, and the Coca Cola line was great. Although I would of with held on the American bashing, as the dumbest people in the UK dont even know who the Prime Minister is!!
But yeah me and mate couldnt stop laughing over that line, there were a fair few funny moments, which took away the seriousness of the subject matter. They really were living up to the stereotype of dirty south, especially the private investigator haha.
uh, hello mf boom, you say her saying that Spain is across the country took away from the seriousness of the subject matter (actually you say took away the seriousness which is really bad grammar for a start) but you say 'I would of with held on the American bashing'.....I believe you meant 'would have' and 'withheld' as one word, not two. Also, it's just withheld instead of withheld on. Kind of makes it difficult to take seriously your argument that people are stupid when you clearly can't construct a simple sentence yourself!
shareIndeed, I did mean would have and withheld. I guess you meant touche when you said too shay? Let me guess you were trying to be funny?
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There is a difference between being dumb, and having bad grammar on a internet message board. Since you know your grammar how about showing me what i should have wrote, instead of just showing me what I got wrong!
I said 'the dumbest people in England', I never suggested I wasn't dumb, but certainly not the dumbest, or as retarded as some of the people on this documentary. Just simply stating America is not the only place with dumb people, as you have so happily pointed out.
English teacher here. Would of is perfectly fine in that case, though i wouldnt use it in any papers you might turn in at school or work. The way you used it is more in the coversational slang where meaning is implied and not directly stated. I would/wouldnt of as in; i would/wouldnt of done that. Not to be used in all cases but more than acceptable given the informal nature of an internet message board discussion.
As for the xenophobic prick, im an American.
If metal_face is an example of a typical American English teacher, then I no longer wonder why Americans are such terrible spellers and grammarians. Wow! To tell someone that "would of is perfectly fine" is appalling! It is just downright incorrect! It properly should be "would have" and in no way is "would of" correct, even in conversational slang. It is a mis-hearing and "mis-repeat" of the correct form. Honestly, with so-called English teachers handing out misinformation like this, I wonder how they got their jobs? No doubt their employers don't know any better themselves.
And "im an American"??? Where in the English language is "im" a word? I do believe you mean "I'm" for "I am". You shame your profession, "English teacher". I suggest you do some remedial reading and stop embarrassing yourself, even if it is only online. I can't imagine what nonsense you're (incorrectly) passing on to your poor students. The mind boggles.
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English teacher here. Would of is perfectly fine in that case, though i wouldnt use it in any papers you might turn in at school or work. The way you used it is more in the coversational slang where meaning is implied and not directly stated. I would/wouldnt of as in; i would/wouldnt of done that. Not to be used in all cases but more than acceptable given the informal nature of an internet message board discussion.
As for the xenophobic prick, im an American.
If metal_face is an example of a typical American English teacher, then I no longer wonder why Americans are such terrible spellers and grammarians. Wow! To tell someone that "would of is perfectly fine" is appalling! It is just downright incorrect! It properly should be "would have" and in no way is "would of" correct, even in conversational slang. It is a mis-hearing and "mis-repeat" of the correct form. Honestly, with so-called English teachers handing out misinformation like this, I wonder how they got their jobs? No doubt their employers don't know any better themselves.
And "im an American"??? Where in the English language is "im" a word? I do believe you mean "I'm" for "I am". You shame your profession, "English teacher". I suggest you do some remedial reading and stop embarrassing yourself, even if it is only online. I can't imagine what nonsense you're (incorrectly) passing on to your poor students. The mind boggles.
Not everyone feels the need to use proper grammar. are you telling
me that if i dont use proper capitalization, or spelling, or punctuation,
then you would not be able to understand what i am saying?? when people
come back and giving me crap, or if i see someone else getting crap about
their sentence structure, it only tells me that person is a robot and must
not have any artistic or abstract ability.
also they have no life...
also they are an *beep*
You're a *beep* idiot. Presuming you're not lying, I pity your students.
~.~
I WANT THE TRUTH! http://www.imdb.com/list/ze4EduNaQ-s/
If you're an English teacher, then you should be fired. "I would of" does not exist in the English language. It's a moronic bastardization of "would have."
How can you possibly not know this?
I met a Spanish women while traveling this summer in Africa, who spent a year working and traveling in the US. When she'd say that she's from SPAIN, people would often ask her in what part if Mexico is it located.
I want to shake every limb in the Garden of Eden
and make every lover the love of my life
well, technically it is 'across the country'.
It's just that it is across the entire damn country, then additionally across an entire ocean.
funniest line of the movie, along with Charlie Parker going on about ears.
the uk is in europe and thus has lots of interaction with europe, including spain. that interaction includes people in the uk, even the relatively poor, going on holiday there. consequently, the location of spain is relevant to the uk. on the other hand, it is quite common for people in the us, even the middle class, to never leave the north american continent in decades if not ever. the location of spain would be of very little use to a low-income texan family. meanwhile, even the "smartest" people in the uk would be hard pressed to name more than three cities in china, or tell you who pancho villa was
the only reason the british, and to a lesser extent the spanish, have so much familiarity with inner and outer america is because they've spent the last century bending over for american culture. something that your username and posting history certainly testify to
I listen to Hip Hop and enjoy American cinema, and I'm bending over for their culture? Since when has it been negative to embrace other cultures?
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I listen to Hip Hop and enjoy American cinema, and I'm bending over for their culture? Since when has it been negative to embrace other cultures?
Ah Fair dues I thought you meant me.
"bringing with it an increased awareness of internal cultural difference in america itself, is not exactly something you want to be proudly wearing as a badge of honor."
I am not sure what you mean by 'to be proudly wearing as a badge of honour'? Who is wearing it as badge of honour, and what are they wearing as a badge of honour?
I do agree on the reasons for Americans not knowing much about anything outside America, I am just always taken back with it like when I was watching this documentary.
this americanized consciousness, bringing with it an increased awareness of internal cultural difference in america itself, is not exactly something you want to be proudly wearing as a badge of honor.
"The location of Spain would be of very little use to a low-income Texan family".
When we`re beginning to judge the value of theoretical education by how much difference it makes in practical daily matters, or how crucial it is to the survival of the species, we might as well abolish the entire basic education system at once.
"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan
"When we`re beginning to judge the value of theoretical education by how much difference it makes in practical daily matters, or how crucial it is to the survival of the species, we might as well abolish the entire basic education system at once."
so, the reasons why math, science and languages are emphasized in most curricula has nothing to do with practical usage, i.e. 'the need to know'? id sure love to know what bulletproof array of non-practical criteria you've devised for determining a subject or fact's intrinsic educational worth.
It`s useful to know some elementary math as well as to speak English in this English-dominated world (but Americans already do speak English and it doesn`t look like they`re much bothered to learn, or properly teach, any other languages). Beyond that, and being literate, very little knowledge learnt in school will be of practical value for your average person. My point, however, is that it seems there used to be a time where education and knowledge in and of themselves were more valued than they are now (or, at least, folks weren`t proud of their stupidity). It should be embarrassing to admit you don`t know where Spain is regardless where you live or if you`ve ever had any business there.
"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan
Complete and utter nonsense. Gee, let me guess, are you British? Canadian? For your information, foreign language(mostly Spanish)is taught in middle and High Schools in the US and some study of foreign language required for nearly every university admission in the country.
shareit seems there used to be a time where education and knowledge in and of themselves were more valued than they are now (or, at least, folks weren`t proud of their stupidity). It should be embarrassing to admit you don`t know where Spain is regardless where you live or if you`ve ever had any business thereExactly and good point. The fact that this shows an American ignorant about Spain should not be taken to mean that all Americans are so ignorant, or that there are equal levels of ignorance in other countries. The choice to include that quote was to illustrate something about the family, not Americans per se.
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It's laughable how Europeans are so proud to have traveled to many foreign countries when you can piss in any direction and hit another country. In the distance it takes me to go from one end of my state to the other, I'd have traveled through 3 countries in Europe. Just another example of how ignorant Euros of American geography.
shareJust another example of how ignorant Euros of American geography.
You're wrong. Very very wrong. Europeans, Brits in particular, are very ignorant of American geography. Embarrassingly so. I've had numerous examples of friends, etc, recounting the absurd comments of Brits who think, for example, they can drive across the US in a day. My favorite story is a couple of Brits who had plans to drive from south Florida to California in two days. They drove all day the first day and didn't get out of Florida. And, EVERY Brit I've told that I'm from Arizona immediately starts asking about cowboys and want to know if we ride horses everywhere. I tell them we travel by car and I've never seen a cowboy in my life and they look so disappointed.
What am I "very, very wrong" about? I don`t think I said anything about the geographical knowledge of the Brits or Europeans in general, nor did I present my argument as some kind of Americans vs others thing. Also, the only part of my post that had to do with the US in particular, was the bit about the lowly standards of teaching foreign languages over there; I´m perfectly aware that they`re being taught (after all, I`ve seen Beavis & Butthead :) - it`s just that the teaching don`t seem effective enough for the students to actually become fluent in those languages. However, this problem isn`t exactly exclusive to the US as most Europeans seem almost as monolingual as Americans - especially in the larger countries (good luck trying to get by with English in France or Spain or even Poland).
"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan
EVERY Brit I've told that I'm from Arizona immediately starts asking about cowboys and want to know if we ride horses everywhere.
You're wrong. Very very wrong. Europeans, Brits in particular, are very ignorant of American geography. Embarrassingly so. I've had numerous examples of friends, etc, recounting the absurd comments of Brits who think, for example, they can drive across the US in a day. My favorite story is a couple of Brits who had plans to drive from south Florida to California in two days. They drove all day the first day and didn't get out of Florida. And, EVERY Brit I've told that I'm from Arizona immediately starts asking about cowboys and want to know if we ride horses everywhere. I tell them we travel by car and I've never seen a cowboy in my life and they look so disappointed.
I thought the line about Spain was funny too, but I think she simply chose her words poorly. I got the feeling she maybe meant to say that Spain is cross country, or possibly "across the world." Sometimes people misspeak, especially under stressful circumstances like being interviewed about a missing brother. But I could just be too forgiving :P
shareThis same woman didn't know how to pronounce "Linares," the very city she was flying to, and the town in which the police station was located.
She actually said "Liniares."
This same woman didn't know how to pronounce "Linares," the very city she was flying to, and the town in which the police station was located.
She actually said "Liniares."
You're kidding, right?
shareAnd people are surprised when the whole family was fooled.
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