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Not enough Kate Mulgrew




There should have been more time with Kate Mulgrew.

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even 15 seconds of Kate Mulgrew is far too much Kate Mulgrew.

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You must be a really nice person. I think Kate Mulgrew is quite good. if you have nothing nice to say, keep it to yourself.

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I truly enjoyed Kate's segments. She's a very direct person & that's not common for an actor. Most are reserved & pc. They pause before they speak. She just tells it like it is/was. That's refreshing in my opinion.

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if you have nothing nice to say, keep it to yourself.
No, thanks.

I was quite vocal about how awful Janeway was for the seven years Voyager was on TV. Not gonna stop now.




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Uber-Geek, it is ok. Say what you will. One question, are you an actor? If you are not, then how dare you speak to another persons career. If you are, then why are you wasting your time speaking about an actress or character, that many people like.

UG,Move on and go back to your world of super hero movies.

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1) I personally dislike KM's acting, prefer her doing more voice works (Flemeth)

2) Only actors can speak of other actors? Are you high? The public can comment on other people's careers all they want. How dare he, indeed...

3) Not wasting his time. This is a free realm, it's called the interwebz. People are free to voice their opinion, perhaps you'd like to put down your fairybooks and step into the real world? You're bound to encounter people whose opinions differ from yours, who have EVERY right to voice them. If you don't like it, get offa da interwebz and don't bawl.

4) Superhero movies are cool....well, except for Ghost Rider....just putting it out there.

Sorry if I jumped the gun, UG, this guy just pressed my buttons.

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I just guess that life is really to short..you can all say what you want.


I appreciate her as an actress, and a person, for the work she does.

So have at it....

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Yeah, the Janeway character was a total failure on all levels. Mulgrew was a weak actress, but that's ok. It'a ll about the script. Sadly, the character was so poorly written, as well.

It's a shame, and kind of an insult to women that Trek's one woman captain was written as a f-ck up. It's a shame.

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When VOY started I hadn't seen KM's past work so I had nothing to compare it to. I will say that I preferred her over Genevive Bujuold (sp) in the role of Janeway....

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I am not a Janeway fan by any means, but I have nothing against Kate Mulgrew as an actress. I saw THE CAPTAINS on Monday night at the Hollywood Forever screening and came away with some enjoyment and some frustration with the documentary.

As up and down as the documentary was, I really didn't like the sequence when Shatner seemed trying to corner Mulgrew on the subject of being a single mother and parenting and hormones. It was really uncomfortable, and the people I was with said the same thing afterwards (but I think it mothered me more that it did them).

Possibly Shatner was looking for some emotional revelation from Mulgrew as he got with Patrick Stewart, but Stewart shared his relationship problems without having to be prodded into it. Avery Brooks had no direct "open-ness," and Scott Bakula shared things but really seems like too positive a person to get down about anything.

Anyway, the doc has some interesting things to say, but it's definitely going to be of interest to a narrow section of the populace, and doesn't have the crossover appeal that other documentaries have had.


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On the subject of Shatner pressing Mulgrew about raising her children; He was definately trying to get an emotional response. I don't think Mulgrew's that type of person though. She defied her strict father did a very good job with the terrible character of Janeway. She's a tough old bird as they say. A fine actress. Shame about the crappy Janeway character.

Avery Brooks may well have been high on something during that interview. Perhaps he's on some type of medication, not saying he's into anything illegal. I think he's a very deep thinker though and a bloody good actor/singer/pianist.

Scott Bakula absolutely loved that he? Very cool person. I believe he was referring to Quantum Leap that ended his marriage, not Enterprise.

Sir Patrick. What a guy.

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Why do I get the impression that ALL those out there slagging off Janeway/Mulgrew are sexist pigs who can't handle a women with a bit of authority? And I'M a man! She was one of the best of the lot if you read between the lines....




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Sorry but you're wrong, it's got nothing to do with her being a woman captain, it's the fact that Mulgrew is a terrible actress and Janeway was an awful character.

There weren't many women Captain's in Star Trek, but Captain Scott from TNG was far better in the one episode she was in that the 7 years of Janeway and Mulgrew.

If the woman and character is good, I don't have a problem, but when you combine an un likeable actress like Mulgrew with a badly written character like Janeway, you're asking for trouble.

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She's an arrogant bitch in real life and that is how she portrayed Janeway, which is why I didn't care for Voyager. There was a live interview with her on E! about ten years ago and she was totally looking down her nose at the person conducting the interview. Whenever they brought up Voyager she would obviously get pissed off.

The next segment was an interview with Horatio Sanz and the first thing he said was something along the lines of "What the heck was up with her?". He obviously had been watching the feed of the interview and just like anyone watching it had picked up on her huge ego and condescending nature.

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As a counter to "The-Uber-Geek"'s (Or Uber-DICK if you ask me) vitriol for Kate Mulgrew/Captain Janeway, I would just like to say, I have watched every series (not every episode) of Star Trek from the original right through to Enterprise with Scott Bakula (painful to say the least).

As someone who, I like to think, is in a good position to form an unbiased opinion when comparing captain to captain, Kate Mulgrew/Janeway brought heart and emotion to the captains chair, a quality distinctly lacking in many of the actors' portrayals in other Treks.

For me personally, I'd take Kate Mulgrew over Shatner/Kirk, Avery/Sisko and Scott/Archer anyday! She would kick their ass all over the Alpha Quadrant without a hair out of place.

Dear Mr. Geek, from someone who considers himself a true Trekkie and Star Trek fan, you need to STFU before you embarass yourself further. K thanx.

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To be fair to Kate Mulgrew, I think the writing was more to blame than anything. Seriously, the way the wrote her, Janeway seemed almost megalomaniacal and psychotic.

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I did not watch much of Voyager, but when I did see it I was impressed with how Mulgrew portrayed the character of the captain .. it was unique and a unique is deliberately political correct role. The only thing I did not appreciate much about the Star Trek follow-ons was that they were so politically correct. Star Trek would be ripe for a remake today that got back to the Captain Kirk type of attitude. I don't think there was but just shows that numbered in the single digits that were as good as the original series, dated as it is.

I think it was very interesting how that show got cancelled, and I would love to know the real story behind it. Maybe I'm crazy but I think that show had a lot of energizing effect on people, far more than most TV shows that just waste time, Star Trek touched the heart, the mind and the passions in a positive way. I think after Star Trek there were very few if any shows that were as uplifting to the human spirit and with such a democratic egalitarian message. American industry does not want a message of egalitarianism to be commmon or popular in this country.

I think the corporations did not want this kind of show on, and when it came back it was completely different, which is why it was never quite as good as the original series.

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AFAIK when TOS was first released it was not successful. Because of that it was moved to an even worse broadcast spot and finally canceled.

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It actually did pretty well ... not with the advertising demographic they thought.
Demography was new back then and they did not realize they were programming
all the people about my age who saw the original series when it first came out.
It was by far my favorite show. I was pretty tepid about the movies and the other
series ... but ended up watching Enterprise and liking it, then Voyager.

Still can't abide DS9 or TNG.

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Lmao, couldn't have said it better.

And how badly has she aged... ugh, I thought she was awful enough to look at on Voyager, but now she's even worse.

Avery Brooks on the other hand has aged with grace, I swear the only thing that ages on him is his facial hair. :)

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I found her beautiful. However, I must admit that I am 10 years older than she is.

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That interrogation was a bit brutal and unfair to be honest. He seemed to be trying to imply that because she was a woman and could carry out the role of captain that it wasn't as difficult as she was claiming.

Maybe Shatner should give her some credit, she did seven seasons and he only did 3.

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No, you need to grow up. You add nothing but bile to world by being so negative, it hurts you (whether you are ready to admit it to yourself or not). People in general rarely care about the opinion of others, and not at all when its just negative attacks like you did. Its not warranted.

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And guess what? I don't care about your opinion!



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Honestly, when Voyager started, I did kind of find her voice annoying. But she grew on me.

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I'll add to the defense of Kate Mulgrew. Voyager was awesome. Sure there were lame filler episodes in a very long 7-year series, but she was an interesting and unique captain and played the role of "captain" perfectly despite the challenge being a female lead. Balanced the masculine and feminine traits perfectly.

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Don't fool yourselves for one minute boys that this isn't about misogyny. Being a male and a geek; I have seen my share of hatred against women in this community.

I don't want to say that most Trekkies haven't seen a woman this side of the Holodeck but the outright hatred of women in pop culture is astounding and Kate Mulgrew is no exception. She is an extremely capable actress that gave grandeur and levity to her role.

The fact that these BOYS are calling her looks (57 BTW) into question is most telling about their character. A bunch of woman hating louts, the lot of them. Possibly the product of domineering fathers and sheepish mothers. Working at Best Buy in order to support their online porn memberships.

*beep* Gross!

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I loved Kate at Janeway and I love the character! I thought it was great to show a strong female figure as the captain. I also enjoyed those moments when we saw her softer side.

Her unique voice is also great.

A womans looks are almost always more important to some men I think. People get older-- we all do. And anyways- I don't think shes ever looked bad.

Also-- while I really like Scott Bakula- I don't think he played Archer better then Kate played Janeway. In fact- in the beginning of Enterprise, I really thought that they had casted the wrong person for the role. And I like him as an actor. It seemed to me that it took him some time to find his stride in playing the character-- which eventually he did. But at first- I was very skeptical about him.

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Wow I didn't know there was that much hatred for her as well. I liked her character and never thought her voice was bad. She reminds me of Patricia Neal.

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Her time on screen felt uncomfortable. Was she mistreated by the show?

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Thank the gods, there is an off switch so you do not have to endure her on TV.




Me, I like most of the episodes, it is fun and entertaining. Let's nit forget the eye candy that are, Kate, Roxann and Jeri!

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I agree that she did come across as a tad bitter, but William's questioning of her was more interrogative. He ceratinly wasn't like that when questioning the men. I brought this point up to a friend and they agreed. All that questioning about hormones and such and how impossible it was for a woman to be both a mother and an actress/woman in power. It was borderline insulting. Then he spoke with Scott Bakula, it was all cominserating with talking about losing half in a divorce because they were too busy filming.

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She did seem more than a little bitter didn't she? It was interesting as well when she spoke of how her kids won't watch the show because it took her away from them for basically 7 years.

I really didn't know that television work was so demanding time wise. I can see why most actors want to do film.

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Sorry to necro the link but,

I agree, Kate's always had this sultry and sexy Kathleen turner feeling about her. I really wanted to see more of Kate, had multiple friends go to the conventions out west and all have come back telling me she's like real life Sexy Mrs. Robinson, Add she's a very free spirit as well. The movie was almost perfect except for needing a bit more Kate and Avery.

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