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'Investor sues Terrence Malick' (yikes!)


I'm giving Malick the benefit of the doubt here, and put it down to an impatient or nervous investor, but there is a troubling bit with Douglas Trumball who allegedly told Malick in a letter that "all the greatest special effects cannot save a film," according to court papers. Then again wall-to-wall awesome special effects in a film by Malick sounds like a sure bet to me .. at least artistically.

Anyway, very interesting reading, with some new details about the production (if accurate), but admittedly not great PR! And I hope this doesn't delay the film, or rush it's completion for release either!

From: http://t.co/ZyqdXzNNUm

Investor sues filmmaker Terrence Malick over failure to produce promised documentary. By ISABEL VINCENT and MELISSA KLEIN

EXCLUSIVE

Famed director Terrence Malick said "Voyage of Time" would be his masterpiece. His investors say it was a $6 million cruise to nowhere.

One backer wants his money returned, charging in a federal lawsuit that Malick not only failed to make the promised documentary trilogy, but used investors' cash on other projects, including the recent "To the Wonder," which one critic called "two hours of 'artistic' torture."

Malick, the reclusive auteur behind 2011’s "The Tree of Life," sold potential investors on "Voyage of Time" as his crowning accomplishment — nothing less than the history of the universe in all its IMAX majesty — and a project he’d pursued his whole career.

But with nearly $6 million in financing in place, and years allegedly devoted to filming across the globe, nothing materialized, according to the lawsuit filed late last week by Seven Seas Partnership, a London-based company that kicked in $3.3 million. An unidentified nonprofit foundation, which is not suing, provided another $2.5 million.

Malick, through his Sycamore Pictures, was to make two 45-minute IMAX films and a feature-length movie. The films were to have been finished by May 2013.

"Sycamore consistently misrepresented that production of these films was moving forward for years, but now has missed production deadlines and blown through $6 million with little to show for it," said Dan Webb, the lawyer for Seven Seas.

"Yet during the six years he was supposed to be filming 'Voyage,' Malick has finished four other films, and Sycamore is now stonewalling our right under the contract to full access to everything relating to the development or production of the 'Voyage' films."

Among the projects distracting Malick was "The Tree of Life," which he started filming in 2008. It won the Palme d’Or top award at the Cannes Film Festival, but the camera-shy Malick refused to go on stage to accept it.

Brad Pitt, who starred in "The Tree of Life," was supposed to narrate the "Voyage" films along with Emma Thompson.

But the project was such a mess that its Oscar-winning special-effects artist walked off the job in November 2012.

Douglas Trumbull, who worked on the groundbreaking "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "Blade Runner," told Malick in a letter that "all the greatest special effects cannot save a film," according to court papers.

Malick, 69, a Harvard-educated Rhodes scholar, has directed only five films since "Badlands" in 1973. He shuns Hollywood, is rarely photographed, and never gives interviews.

But he can be exacting in his direction. For the "Voyage" project, he insisted that the Solomon Islands in the South Pacific was the only place on earth to "appropriately capture the emergence of man from primates."

Malick did not return calls for comment.

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Further thoughts:

New York Post is a Murdoch tabloid rag, i.e. not known for accuracy or good reporting.

Malick apparently met Murduch in Cannes in 2011 (conspiracy theorists feel free to speculate)

'Seven Seas Partnership' have no online presence it seems. WTF are they?

I didn't know VoT was meant to be 3 films. Maybe ToL counts as one, but interesting that the others are allegedly two 45 minutes films (though that length would be in keeping with IMAX science/nature films I think).

Re Trumball 'walked off the job in November 2012'? I bet this statement and his quote have been taken out of context to be misleading.

Any thoughts anyone?


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Hey, Harry, good to read you again (I had given up a little with the mess on the boards elsewhere..)

Well, I agree on most of the things you wrote.

What we have to hope is that Glen Basner at FilmNation, that seems to enjoy a very good relationship with Malick, will find an investor of the kind they found To the Wonder (the Krigsfeld brothers, that are passionate about Malick work, and that were infinitely more interested to help him, than to make a financial gain..).
Plan B can help to in this search, if Pitt cares..

Because for me, the only solution to save VoT is that someone buy the contract of Seven Seas Partnership with Sycamore Pictures.

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And well, I would suggest to Green, Gonda and friends, to even think about a Kickstart campaign.
I am sure for such a project the money can be gathered.

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PS: Also, on the Murdoch thing, I am pondering if the NYPost would have criticized Tree of Life too in this article, if it was not distributed by a Murdoch company (even if News Corp has split in two recently: News Corp and 21st Century Fox)

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For Seven Seas Partnership, it seems it is this company:

http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/seven-seas-(sl)


As it has previously produced documentaries in 2007.

(now that you have the address Harry, we count on you :-P )

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Thanks U4. They're just a few minutes cycle from me. First thing tomorrow morning I'll go over, gain access, catch their eye and tut disapprovingly until they see the error of their ways!

But seriously, I can't imagine Malick, or anyone on his behalf, giving a legally binding concrete delivery date for this or any film. I'm sure you remember the Icon UK debacle with ToL's release. It was eventually sorted and Icon ceased to exist soon after. Maybe Seven Seas are also in financial difficulties and feel they have no choice but to do this?

EDIT: What is it with UK investors and Malick? Maybe they should stay clear of each other in future as something is clearly 'lost in translation'.

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I was wrong.

Seven Seas Partnership is the Jersey arm (you know for which reason ;-), and no, it is not to be able to see Mont Saint Michel ) of the London company, Sovereign Films that is listed as one of the coproducers of VoT.

And anecdotically, Andreas Roald, its manager, was thanked in the credits of To the Wonder. It seems it was not enough.

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Real company:
Sovereign Films
18 South Street
Mayfair
London W1K 1DG
UK
http://www.sovereignfilms.co.uk

Virtual company:
Seven Seas Partnership
38 Esplanade
Saint Hélier
Jersey JE1 4TR
(Channels Islands)

38 Esplanade is the address of a Citibank, so it is obviously just a PO Box for tax haven.

PS: In fact the postcode says that the mails are for Vistra (which Jersey local affiliate is probably Citibank Jersey).

Vistra is a "Global Independent provider of trust, fiduciary, corporate and fund services delivering Personal and tailored solutions to international corporations, institutional investors and high net worth individuals and their families"
So it is a company that helps you set up a virtual affiliate company in tax havens.

PS2: Harry, if it can comfort you, Andreas Roald is norwegian, not british.
http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/director/886712/andreas-roald
By the way he is young (born on the same year I would obviously not say the contrary, even if sometimes I feel I am already so old !)

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He worked previously for Merchant Ivory (like Donald Rosenfeld, former president of the company ; they probably never worked at the same period for Merchant Ivory , but it is probably this common career link that helps them to meet each other -- for example, when Rosenfeld may have visited his former company)

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So it is a company that helps you set up a virtual affiliate company in tax havens.
So a company that hides it's accounts to avoid tax is suing for access to another company's accounts? Seems a little hypocritical to me. If I was the judge I would laugh and throw them out of court, which is one reason why I could never be a judge, probably ..

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Im shocked, it shoudln't be rushed.

Look at films like Samsara, full IMAX (of REAL things) took 5 years to film over 25 countries.

Vot is similar but will require special effects, more marketing and just for time to develop and perfect it. I never knew about the 3 films either.

I hope this doesn't scare Malick into hiding or stopping this completely, this is the Malick film I have been waiting for all these years and TOL (one of my fave films) is just a taster lol.

Like U4 said, he should be able to find new funding from someone, just wonder how long it will take now to see this piece?

It probably would have been benficial to have created a trailer or poster to show project is still alive and being worked on (even if trailer isn't complete)

Just to add, could this be a cheap publicity stunt?

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I would really bet on the Krigsfeld brothers again :

it seems that in addition of "To the Wonder", they have financed "The Green Blade Rises" (as a reminder, co-produced by Malick) and that we should see "Brothers K Productions present" again.

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I've seen TTOL multiple times and I'm pleasantly surprised how I always find the 'creation/evolution' sequence compelling all the way through and never fancy fast-forwarding it at all. I guess this is what makes it so Malickular ;)

Anyway, I guess we shouldn't get carried away, but the apparent inclusion of VOT footage in TTOL and even TTW, but credited to TTOL in the latter (supposedly referring to the as-yet unreleased extended TTOL!), could potentially be a lawyer's wet-dream, and open a can-of-worms if further disputes arose over royalties/late-releases etc. So fingers-crossed that doesn't happen!

I wish I was as confident as U4 of backers stepping in, but I do worry a bit (only a bit!) that TTW has lowered Malick's currency somewhat, and that even the most supportive financiers might have a limit to their 'altruism'.

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Well, in fact, like you I am not confident, I just hope it will happen. It seems the only way out, in order for VoT to get released.


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The complaint:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/155148038/SEVENSEAS-FILEDCOMPLAINT

(source: this article of the Hollywood Reporter, that, except this PDF, does not say anything else that what we already know:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/terrence-malick-movie-investo rs-sue-589780 )

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I am now really afraid of the consequences this complaint this will have, not only on Voyage of Time, but too on Malick's ability to continue filming.

It will possibly cripple any future confidence for a future project.
Even in the current projects, the different investors could ask for explanation too about the mix of the funds, the kind of unpleasant situation that Malick has already fled some 35 years ago.

On the other hand, it seems that they knew this suit was going to happen for 6 months and they may have worked all these past months with Rosenfeld or Basner to find a financial solution (new investor?)

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UPDATE, 12:55 PM: Sycamore's lawyer Maura Wogan of Frankfurt Kurnit Klein & Selz just responded to the suit. 'The claims of Seven Seas are without merit. The film was on budget, on schedule, and all funds were used appropriately. Additionally, Seven Seas' decision to file this lawsuit under the cover of darkness and go public before presenting Sycamore with a copy of the suit itself speaks to the weakness of the allegations.'

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The funny thing about this case is didn't Seven Seas only invest $3 million? They make it sound like that investment is all the money the film needed.

It does seem though that Malick's team probably did intermingle the funds. Which might not be a bad thing if they had pitched this "studio system" to investors, but it seems unlikely to attract investors since they don't have ownership of specific projects turned out by Malick and his crew in Austin.

But this system has probably done much to help Malick's productivity as evidenced by ToL, TtW, KoC and the now Untitled Malick film. Being able to cycle through many projects lets him remain productive while slowly developing ideas for each and his team is likewise in place for each.

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The funny thing about this case is didn't Seven Seas only invest $3 million? They make it sound like that investment is all the money the film needed.
I was thinking the same, but on closer inspection I think maybe their financial commitment was much higher and what they have actually done is withhold a large chunk of the funding they promised .. due to cold feat or whatever.

I could be misreading things so please someone correct me if I've got it wrong!

According to Seven Seas: on page 7 of the complaint (notes 23-24), the total budget is stated as $8.65 million. $2.5 million of this was from a not-for-profit organisation, and further $800,000 was expected from elsewhere.

So if Seven Seas have paid just $3.3 million to Sycamore (which they now want back), then this would suggest that there is a $2 million shortfall, i.e. money they must have committed to the film which they are withholding from it.

So rather than Seven Seas fulfilling their side of the deal and Malick not delivering the film, and Malick allegedly asking for extra funds to finish it, it would seem like it is Seven Seas that have broken the deal, and Malick was simply requesting the rest of the promised funds to be able to finish it.

Or am I missing something?


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This gives me some comfort, I was worried as we hadnt heard anything about it or how its going, so hopefully this is all true :)

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UPDATE, 12:55 PM: Sycamore's lawyer Maura Wogan of Frankfurt Kurnit Klein & Selz just responded to the suit. 'The claims of Seven Seas are without merit. The film was on budget, on schedule, and all funds were used appropriately. Additionally, Seven Seas' decision to file this lawsuit under the cover of darkness and go public before presenting Sycamore with a copy of the suit itself speaks to the weakness of the allegations.'
I note the reference to 'film', not 'films' and that the film 'was' on budget and on schedule, rather than 'is', thanks, presumably, to Seven Seas!

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Creation sequence is my favorite part of Tree Of Life :-p, and if they were to do a luck starter is happily donate, just wish I had like $10,000,000 lying around haha

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September 23 was the deadline to answer to the claims of Seven Seas/Sovereign Films and Sycamore's lawyers chose to fill a counterclaim as an answer asserting that SS allegations are a way to exit the contract for which SS had not the funds.

The counterclaim:
http://in.derweltse.in/malick/vot-counterclaim.pdf

Sorry, I could have shared it very much sooner in the day but I had only a bad connection.

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Nice to hear from you U4, and thanks for the file, which I will read with interest. From the first page, it would seem that my theory in July (above) was correct? Funny how none of the press reports back then, considered the possibility that SS had withheld promised funding.

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In the VoT lawsuit:
- As a reminder, as I may have told it here in August, the judge, and the lawyers of both parties will meet tomorrow at for a first pretrial conference at Daniel Patrick Moynihan United States Courthouse in Manhattan.
- Since Sycamore Pictures' answer was also a counterclaim, the lawyers of Seven Seas Partnership (in fact a tax evasion puppet of Sovereign Films) had by law 3 weeks to answer to it (i.e. until October 14). Yesterday, they requested the deadline to be extended to and including October 22. Judge Cote endorsed the request as she endorsed Sycamore a similar request on August 8 to extend the deadline until September 23.
- The lawyers of both parties have met on October 3 for an informal meeting in order to jointly propose a schedule of the discovery process to the judge, as suggested and directed by her. By law, the scheduling conference at the court that will officially decide such a schedule based on the proposal can not be held before 3 weeks after this informal meeting, which is the date they propose to the judge (October 24). One of the role of the first conference of tomorrow is precisely to decide the date of the scheduling conference. It is probable that unless she is not available, Judge Cote will confirm October 24.
The proposal of schedule is listed below.
- The lawyers of both parties also explain they had several meetings and have exchanged several letters since July 22, but they have not reached an agreement on a settlement of the case

Here is the jointly proposed schedule for discovery by both parties (that has to be confirmed by the judge at the scheduling conference that may be held on October 24). It is only at the end of all this discovery process that an hypothetical trial will begin:
- November 7, 2013: Written discovery plan submission (under Rule 26(f) of the Civil Procedure)
- November 7, 2013: Initial disclosures due (under Rule 26(a) of the Civil Procedure)
- July 15, 2014: Fact discovery cutoff
- August 15, 2014: Expert witness disclosures
- October 10, 2014: Opposing expert disclosures
- November 7, 2014: Rebuttal expert reports
- December 5, 2014: Expert discovery close
- January 16, 2015: Dispositive and Daubert motion deadline

Some notes, especially for non-US readers or readers unfamiliar with the US Civil Procedure:
- The discovery process is the pre-trial phase of a lawsuit during which each party can obtain evidence from the opposing party, by convincing the judge to order the opposing party to produce those evidences. Those evidences can be documents, admissions or depositions. It can also be ordered to a third party by a subpoena.
- Also what is called "conference" is in fact called a hearing in most countries, and "hearing" is often used by non-US journalists when they cover such a conference in the US. The difference between a hearing and a conference in the US judicial system is often that a conference does not allow evidences or testimonies while a hearing does. So a conference will more often deal with schedule, status, or legal oral arguments, while a hearing will deal with documents and witnesses. But it takes place in the same "scenery".
- At last a Daubert motion is a motion seeking to exclude a expert testimony or export report because there is a gap between the evidence used in the report and the conclsions, or because the expert methods are unreliable or unrelevant to the case and so on. And a dispositive motion is a motion to seek the disposal of some claims without further proceedings, because the discovery or the trial until now has shown they are untrue or unrelevant or because it has shown that some of the claims are so obviously true there is no need to discuss them. Most of the time, such a dispositive motion is a "motion to dismiss" a claim or a "motion for summary judgement" about a claim.

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Actual and shorter pre-trial schedule as agreed on October 11 with Judge Cote and now ordered:
- December 20, 2013: Initial disclosures due (= identify each person likely to have discoverable informations, list every possible document that could help...)
- June 27, 2014: Fact discovery cutoff
- July 18, 2014: Expert witness and reports disclosures deadline
- Before August 22, 2014: Identification of rebuttal experts and disclosure of their expert testimony
- September 19, 2014: Expert discovery close

If one of the party seeks a motion for summary judgement :
- Motion served by October 17, 2014
- Opposition served by November 7, 2014
- Reply served by November 21, 2014

If there is no motion:
- October 17, 2014 is the deadline to fill the Joint Pretrial Order, that will sum up the claims of both parties and all the pre-trial discoveries made during the 1-year discovery period, and ask the court for an actual trial.

Also, Judge Cote instructs the lawyers of the parties to pursue the settlement discussions (unsuccessful until now) under the supervision of Magistrate Peck that they have to contact before tomorrow (October 18).

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Here is the answer to the counterclaim of Sycamore Pictures, that Seven Seas / Sovereign Films was scheduled to file today.

http://in.derweltse.in/malick/vot-2013.10.22-answertocounterclaim.pdf

A very quick read gives at least one detail: all the footage would supposedly fill two hard drives.

But I am sure a more thorough read will give some other facts.

Also the parties are convoked by Magistrate Peck (that works here under the presidency of Judge Cote) to a settlement conference on November 13. For the first time, the clients are ordered be present, not just their lawyers ( who will represent Sycamore? Malick himself ? ). They also have to provide a settlement memorandum by November 6 to Peck that should include a secret and realistic settlement range that only Magistrate Peck will know, in order to make him aware whether a settlement is possible at the moment.

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Just a detail (or is it?), but I find it funny/curious how the original claim refers to Nicolas Gonda and Sarah Green, not as producers but as 'Malick's assistants'. Unsurprisingly this is declared incorrect in the counter-claim by Sycamore/Malick. Nevertheless they remain described as assistants in Seven Seas subsequent response.

Admittedly, the term 'producer' is a far too loose a term, that can mean different things (and Sycamore is Malick essentially) but if nothing else shouldn't the official legit producers (Gonda, Green) be shielding their director from this kind of thing? After all Malick produces others' work and I'm sure if he wanted producer credits on his own films, then he could have had them (as he is the creator of the films and not just a hired-in director). I have wondered why he doesn't. Maybe because directing and producing are very different skill-sets - using different parts of the brain if-you-like - and Malick needs all his creative energy purely focused on the creative/directing side of things?

Anyway, it all seems a bit murky but I do sense an underlying childish/amateur tone in the way Seven Seas' original claim and last response is expressed. They even have a problem with VoT being called a documentary film. They seem out of their depth. I just hope the judge at least knows what he/she is doing!

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And I just noticed this, from:
http://www.screendaily.com/news/production/effie-producer-debunks-twitter-claims-about-production-troubles/5035678.article

Producer Donald Rosenfeld has reacted angrily to claims on Twitter that period drama Effie, starring Dakota Fanning and Emma Thompson, has hit turbulence during its shooting in Venice.

Tweets posted last week reported that unpaid crew members were leaving the production in droves and that suppliers were refusing to have anything to do with the movie until they were paid.

Rosenfeld dismissed these assertions and said that the $15 million Victorian-era film was on course.
...
Rosenfeld is producing alongside Andreas Roald.
That was from 2011 and the film is not yet released. Some might say these producers of Effie are a bit iffy, but I couldn't possibly comment.

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I wonder if Malick is afraid to finish this work.
Or maybe he lost the drive to finish it after completing The Tree of Life.

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I updated all my pdf links in the thread as the url has evolved and the old ones are not available since November 1 (sorry I had no time until now to update them)

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In the Voyage of Time lawsuit: the parties may be nearing a settlement.

On November 18, a confidential and sealed document was shared between the parties and the judges, and from some indications, it could be guessed it was related to the settlement conference that had taken place on November 13 (where the parties had been ordered to by physically present). In fact it appears that this was an order requesting an update on a potential settlement resolution. The confidentiality was necessary as the order is probably describing a potential common ground found by the settlement judge Peck.

IT also appears that since this order, counsel for Seven Seas and Sycamore have been working to draft a settlement agreement reflecting the parameters discussed by the parties and identified by Judge Peck on November 13th. Counsel for Sycamore offered to prepare the first draft of an agreement, which it provided to Seven Seas on November 22. The parties conferred on November 26 to discuss the status of the draft agreement. Seven Seas is currently reviewing the draft and expects to provide comments and revisions to Sycamore by early next week. Some updates about this will be shared with the court before December 13.
It does not necessarily mean that an settlement will be reached, but at least discussions are taking place and there seems to be a common ground where it could have been non-existent. Note that these discussions are taking place in parallel with the pre-trial discovery process as the deadline for the first disclosures is still December 20, they do not delay them.

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wow thanks a lot U4. always on top of your malick game.

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Thanks from me too U4. Great to hear there could a settlement and perhaps even a relatively early one. Fingers-crossed for Sycamore (one-up to Seven Seas).

A bit OT, but I don't suppose there is anything planned for Malick's 70th tomorrow? Unlikely I know, but I can't help wondering.

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The settlement negotiations are still progressing.

Updates about these discussions were scheduled to be shared with the court today, and here are the details: counsel for Seven Seas and Sycamore Pictures have continued to work to draft a settlement agreement reflecting the parameters discussed by the parties and identified by Judge Peck on November 13th. After counsel for Sycamore prepared and provided a first draft of an agreement on November 22, Seven Seas provided comments and revisions to Sycamore on December 2nd. Sycamore responded on December 10th with its comments and revisions, which included a demand that third party Donald Rosenfeld execute a "mutual release" in favor of Sycamore simultaneously with the parties’ settlement agreement. This has necessitated Rosenfeld to secure independent counsel to advise in this regard. Seven Seas expects to provide its further response and comments to the draft agreement to Sycamore today. Counsel for the parties expect to meet and confer by telephone early next week to discuss any remaining open issues.

Next updates on these negotiations are scheduled to be shared with the court on December 30 at worst (obviously they may occur sooner if they succeed to settle).

But, before this date, in the pre-trial discovery process, parallel to these negotiations, the parties will have to disclose on December 20, the names of all persons, companies or documents, whose testimony or evidence can be important to this case.

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Impressive research U4, thanks for sharing. I had given up on seeing this for so long now. I am now wondering, in a positive manner.


"I made him feel shame... my shame."

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You're welcome.. Well you would have find nothing, Finerfilms, as movie 'press' does not really cover the lawsuit but publish things only when one of the parties send documents to them..

Now the settlement seems more than ever the priority :

the parties have asked today to Judge Cote to delay the first disclosure discovery deadline that was due on December 20 to January 20, in order to "allow an opportunity to complete [their] negotiations" in a peaceful atmosphere, instead of beginning the judicial confrontation while in parallel still negotiating.

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Just a silly guess (it is silly, don't sue me Mr. Rosenfeld or Mr. Malick) about the simultaneous "mutual release" asked to Donald Rosenfeld during these past weeks : maybe what Sycamore ask him to give up is his producer rights, as they consider that part of all this mess was caused by his intermediary role (miscommunication etc. )

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Agreed. I don't see how Rosenfeld can stay involved based on what I read in the claim and counter-claim. I imagine negotiating the 'mutual release' will be tricky and probably costly. Perhaps the big positive from this is that it confirms that Malick/Sycamore do still have great belief in VoT, otherwise why would they bother?

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Negotiations are going on and on.

Since the last news I shared on December 14th, counsel for the parties met and conferred by telephone on December 19th to discuss open issues. Sycamore then provided its proposed revisions to the draft agreement on December 27th. Seven Seas expects to provide further comments to Sycamore by tomorrow, December 31st, and counsel have scheduled a call for Friday, January 3rd to discuss any remaining open items.

A next update on the status of settlement, if it is not signed before, is scheduled to be shared with the court on January 20th, the very same day to which the first disclosures of the parallel pre-trial process were postponed, to allow these current negotiations in a peaceful atmosphere. Another postponement of this judicial confrontation is obviously possible if an agreement is not reached by January 20th, as this settlement seems the very priority for the parties.

Enjoy this New Year's Eve time :)

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Is the case already settled?

Indeed, no further postponement of the January 20 deadline for the first disclosures was requested these past few days. Of course, it is possible that the negotiations are a failure and that they will proceed with the litigation and these first disclosures on Monday. It is also possible that they will request for a new postponement of these disclosures (but it would be very late to do so). But the best guess is that the litigation has been settled, and that, when they will update the court on the settlement status on Monday as they have convened with the court, the case will be dismissed.

And to answer to you, hollowrock:
- well, I can't, except say that I have a source.
- the only thing I know about KoC and Untitled is that none of them is currently finished (except if one of them [we all guess it will be KoC] has been very recently finished and I have not been updated about it yet).

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Ah, the irony of this last-minute of climactic suspense, where it could supposedly go either-way, just like in virtually every mainstream movie. In this instance, I would not have a problem with a typically formulaic happy ending!

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Negotiations for a settlement have failed, at least for now (maybe because of the Rosenfeld condition). Indeed, during this afternoon, Sycamore has just served the court and Seven Seas its "initial disclosures" listing persons and documents useful to the case and to the discovery process that will begin from today (where each party will try to convince the judge to order the other party to give a document or a testimony). The settlement negotiations may continue in parallel.

Sycamore's initial disclosures:
http://in.derweltse.in/malick/vot-2014.01.20-sycamore-firstdisclosures .pdf

Seven Seas' initial disclosures will come out later today.

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Seven Seas' initial disclosures: http://in.derweltse.in/malick/vot.2014.01.20-sevenseas-firstdisclosure s.pdf

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The words "at least for now" in one of the previous posts were the correct ones regarding the settlement as it seems that it is still the main goal of the lawyers, and that it is only because they are late at reaching this settlement (that is now almost final) that they have proceeded with the first disclosures.

Indeed, counsel for Seven Seas and Sycamore have continued to work diligently to draft a settlement agreement reflecting the parameters discussed by the parties and identified by Judge Peck on November 13th. Since my last news on the negotiations (on December 30), counsel for the parties met and conferred by telephone on January 5th and 9th to discuss open issues. Seven Seas provided final draft language to Sycamore on January 14th, 2014.
Sycamore responded today, January 20th. Counsel for Seven Seas must discuss Sycamore’s final proposed changes with Seven Seas and Andreas Roald.

The parties have resolved almost all open items in pursuit of a settlement agreement. However, Sycamore has insisted that Andreas Roald, who organized Seven Seas, and Donald Rosenfeld, a non-party to the litigation, execute "general, mutual releases" in their personal capacities as part of the proposed settlement agreement. These requests have necessitated Donald Rosenfeld to secure separate counsel to advise him on this matter. If these issues remain unsolved, the parties anticipate "it may be necessary to request a further discussion with Judge Peck on these provisions".

So, in the interim, the parties have exchanged initial disclosures, as required by the courts order that had postponed these disclosures on December 18.

The next update on negotiations should be on January 31 at worst, if a settlement has not occured in the interim.

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As it was anticipated by the parties ten days ago, the settlement seems slowed by the simultaneous third party agreements concerning Andreas Roald and Donald Rosenfeld.

The work of the counsels to draft a settlement has continued and seems to be finished on every aspects except a few provisions, presumably the ones that request the simultaneous signing of various general release agreements and mutual release agreements from Roald and Rosenfeld, and that may require the help of Judge Peck, as they evoked ten days ago. At the moment, they are attempting to finalize the language in these provisions themselves, but the counsels of the parties have already jointly indicated today to Judge Peck and Judge Cote, that if they note they are unable to do so, they will contact Judge Peck's chambers next week.

About the release agreements: these separate documents, in which the signatory gives up all claims or all rights on a matter, may be to protect Sycamore and Malick from any future litigation from Roald or Rosenfeld as individuals after the settlement with Roald's company, Seven Seas, the Jersey puppet of Sovereign Films. Roald or Rosenfeld may also release their production rights, as individuals, on Voyage of Time. But also, a very unlikely – but not completely impossible – scenario that can be hinted by the word "mutual" is that the purpose of Sycamore in the request of these releases might be an effort to protect Rosenfeld from being sued by Roald.

Next update, at worst, on February 14, in two weeks.

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It is settled!

Update: here is the order discontinuing the case : http://in.derweltse.in/malick/vot.2014.02.07-settlement.pdf

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It will be interesting to watch in the coming weeks if another company replace Sovereign Films in the imdb credits. That would mean that the rights have been rebought with the help of another investor.

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Excellent news :) Thanks again U4 for taking the trouble and great care in keeping us informed. Who needs press releases! (ha ha).

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You thought we had finished with this? But things were too simple: there have been a misunderstanding problem between the lawyers and the Court on the reaching of the settlement, and despite all the appearances and the documents, the closing of the case on Friday was a mistake from the Court.

Indeed counsel for Seven Seas and Sycamore are "still finalizing the draft settlement agreement", and so have not yet settled the litigation. They have reached "a negotiated document" and "expect to file stipulations", which the parties have negotiated, "with the Court this week". For these reasons, the plaintiff, Seven Seas, requests that the Court vacate its February 6th order. To avoid such a misunderstanding, the parties will jointly update the Court as soon as a settlement agreement is executed.

However, we can guess that the conclusion is very near, if, even the Court was confused and made such a mistake...

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we can guess that the conclusion is very near, if, even the Court was confused and made such a mistake..
Maybe the court misheard some of the whispering, and didn't have access to a subtitles button ...

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The settlement has been signed on February 18 ... for *REAL* this time ;-)

Even if most of the provisions will be kept secret, here are broadly the terms of the agreement: exceptionnally the Court will retain jurisdiction on the confidential agreement during the next 9 months. This unusual practice is the very idea that allowed the agreement.

During these 9 months, Malick's team (Sycamore) will raise funds to pay Sovereign Films (Seven Seas). At the end of this period, if Sycamore has raised sufficient funds, both parties will fill a joint dismissal of the case. If Sycamore has failed to raised the required funds, the parties may reinstate the action. The 9 months period can also be jointly extended.

Despite the secret of the provisions, we can guess, from the previous negotiations with Rosenfeld and Roald about a simultaneous release that these funds will serve to reacquire copyright and producer rights on Voyage of Time. Rights that will end up, by the terms of the fund raising contract in the hands of the new investors.

The real secret provision is the amount that Seven Seas/Sovereign Films asks for the film. More than the $3.3 million allegedly invested, in order to compensate the interests, and/or the missed investments? Or less because of sums are often overestimated in the complaints?
We also do not know whether Sycamore has already payed a part of the amount.

As an answer to the settlement, the Court accepts to retain jurisdiction, but only if the settlement is endorsed by the Court, which will probably lead the agreement to lose its confidentiality. The parties should answer on Wednesday.


One of the related letters to all this recent matter with the handwritten answer from the judge : http://in.derweltse.in/malick/vot.2014.02.25-settlementletter.pdf

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Sycamore and Seven Seas refused yesterday that the Court endorse the settlement to avoid it to become public. So the Court will not watch the settlement execution and the case has been dismissed by the judge.

And if Sycamore does not succeed to raise the funds from investors to reacquire Voyage of Time for them, probably Seven Seas will file a new complaint in November.

PS: We will have to watch the company credits page to see if one or multiple companies replace Sovereign Films. That will mean that the fund raising has succeeded.

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Sovereign Films and its infamous Andreas Roald, former* producers on VoT, can be relieved. Their ill-fated Emma Thompson film, Effie Gray, whose legal difficulties could have lead Roald to sue Malick about Voyage of Time, is to be released very soon in the UK:
http://variety.com/2014/film/news/video-dakota-fanning-stars-in-emma-t hompson-scripted-effie-gray-exclusive-1201319373/
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQPcqsBC288


*: see http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1945228/board/nest/229640097?d=229704117#2 29704117

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And now, the same infamous Andreas Roald (I like calling him like that ;) ) will have a lot of money:
http://variety.com/2015/film/news/effie-gray-international-rights-univ ersal-sovereign-1201455749/

Probably, if this money had come sooner, they wouldn't have made this lawsuit at all in 2013.

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