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A very interesting documentary

posted 12 years ago by JimmyMcCool
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Just watched this. Reading about this in the papers, it seemed there was two arguments: one for the economy and one for the environment. This documentary is a compelling case for the environment and reveals the ugly proceedings of what has been occurring in Aberdeenshire. It's also tragic how powerless the inhabitants of the area under development are against the government and Trump. It also raises the question, who is charge of this development - Trump or the SNP? It does seem the government has indeed been "Trumped". A very sad story.

[–] marathon_man 12 years ago

Likewise, I just watched it tonight. I've been following developments on this blight on the landscape from the beginning. Scotland has more than enough golf courses and not one of them is more beautiful than the natural landscape it replaces.

Trump cares only about money (hey, he's a hugely successful businessman) and has no concept of other people's right to feel differently from himself. His comments about the residents, in particular his vitriolic description of Michael Forbes and his property (which looks no more an eyesore than any working farmland) are vile and despicable. The man is so out of touch with what Scotland wants and is so ignorant about the country that he actually thinks his course will be on the west coast! If he had his way though, it would probably stretch between both coasts.

It's always quite sickening to see sycophantic pandering to guests on chat shows at the best of times, but to witness David Letterman's fawning and ignorance (no doubt down to zero research and not wanting to risk the sensitive Mr Trump - after all, he could be a future President!) was cringe-worthy.

Michael Forbes comes across as a decent, down-to-earth individual, not the near-Neanderthal Trump would have you believe him to be. In fact, he is clearly quite eloquent for a "simple" out-of-towner.

To lose such a unique and significant Site of Scientific Interest all to help line the pockets of Trump is shameful in the extreme, and the Scottish Government should hang it's head for bowing to this megalomaniac of the business world. They also appear to have highly influenced the Police handling of the situation. I'm not one to shout "Police state" or "1984" but it's hard not to feel Grampian Police are failing in their remit to protect the public's interests.

It's already an emotive issue but the documentary was very moving and had me switching from anger to disbelief and not so very far from tears, partly due to my love of Scotland and also to the human spirit on show in defiance of Trump's continued empire building.

[–] JimmyMcCool 12 years ago

I'm really disappointed in the way the Scottish government has handled this. And,to bury those trees like corpses when they could've been sold on as wood it is not good practice if they're supposed to be promoting environmental and economic prosperity - and the way he tried to damage Forbes' reputation - Trump really is an audacious liar.

Hats off to the documentary maker for exposing this operation.

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[–] youngian67 12 years ago

It was really heartening to see the the American golfers at Saint Andrews had Trumps number and knew exactly what a piece-of-crap he really is.

That's the bitter irony, North Americans who pay a lot of money for a golfing holiday in Scotland come to get away from the likes of Trump.

[–] Warped100 12 years ago

Where did you see it? I really wanna watch it

[–] JimmyMcCool 12 years ago

They're showing it on the BBC,Warped; not far after the date for the referendum for the termination of the union was announced. Coincidence?

Trump's complaining about it already, he say it's propaganda.

In fact it's still on BBCiplayer:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01nln7g/Youve_Been_Trumped/

I was surprised at how deep this documentary was, check it out.

[–] urgeking 9 years ago

It's true that Letterman's show operates primarily on the level of light comedy/entertainment that's not designed to challenge the powers-that-be in any serious way. To be fair, though, we only see a couple of little snippets of his segment with Trump, so it's hard to judge his attitude properly just from that. I get the feeling he personally likes Trump no more than he likes Rush Limbaugh.

Letterman is politically liberal and has been known to ask challenging topical questions of guests from time to time... though he might not persist with follow-up questions, for fear of seeming "too serious" to viewers who just want to be amused.

I wonder if the whole Letterman segment might be on YouTube?

[–] masurra 9 years ago

I think the documentary wasn't very factual. The legal aspects of Trump turning off water, sabotaging electricity and actually invading pars of his neighbours property weren't covered at all really, just som real estate law dude saying it was remarkable. Why didn't they sue him, why didn't take any legal action at all.

I can buy the police being totally corrupt in the country side, cuffing ppl and putting them into custody for visiting another property to ask questions and then leave when asked to, they just detain ppl for that in euripe, at least not by a court decision.

It seemed a little as the neighbours just complained to the docu-crew. Why didn't the filmmakers contact a real legal advisor to get practical advice on how to counteract this stuff?

Of course I dont doubt Trump is an ahole etc. but this wasn't a very great documentary as it was impossible for a person with a law degree to understand what really happened.

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[–] urgeking 9 years ago

Why didn't they sue him, why didn't take any legal action at all.

Maybe they did.

But if they never did sue, some of the reasons should be pretty obvious.

For one thing, I'd bet that even in this day and age rural Scotland is probably not a hotbed of lawsuits-- because they're not so accustomed to taking that step-- whereas here in the US it's much more common, with hotshot lawyers advertising on TV in the hopes of convincing everyone to sue everyone else.

But aside from that, why should those farmers think they'd have any hope of winning? Most of their police, politicians, and other power-brokers were siding with the 'developer', and everyone knows Trump can afford to hire the sharpest, most aggressive, most ruthless team of lawyers that lots of money can buy. These people could probably see how the deck would be stacked in his favor.