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Completely fake (proof inside)


1. The first thing I noticed was that the contestants were recasts. Brittany and Gabe were both previously on an episode Million Dollar Money drop. Now that doesn't prove that it's fake, however it got me thinking.

Their pictures located here: http://thestatechamp.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/alg_million_dollar_drop.jpg

2. The contestants get upset when they can't find a key and decide they should 'take it out on the guitar' which happens to be the item that the key is held in? Okay, not proof but more skepticism.

3. At approximately 8 minutes in, the green team gets upset and punches the concrete wall in their cell; the wall shakes like it's made of sheet metal. All Alcatraz cells were made completely of concrete.

4. The green team constantly has fake bad attitudes with each other. One member runs into the other and then throws a fit, punching walls and whining. A sure fire way to win your money by not getting caught...

5. The final nail in the coffin. What kind of blind guard would not be able to spot the contestants as they are being followed by an ultra-bright camera light? The light would give them away instantly, and lord knows the camera man can not get a great shot if he is standing on top of the team hiding with them.

What do you guys think? Proof enough that for the first showing, the crew can't even convince the audience.

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agreed - Wipeout is a much better Escape show.

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The addict on green team (Jake? Can't remember) also looked familiar.

There's a faction of people who relentlessly apply to game shows. And casting companies can get lazy. There's only a finite amount of applicants with the right mix of competitiveness and shamelessness but score low on basic math and problem solving and controlling their aggression. Industry people all seem to hang in small circles.

All shows stage their sets, even game shows, even jail cells.

None of this makes the show fake.

I too questioned the 'hiding' from guards. But I know that game shows have rule books. They probably define how a capture works, do re-shoots, or whatever.

The contest itself is so far not that intriguing. Compare that to last summer's cheap filler game show, 'Take The Money And Run' where viewers could think about what city or types of team might be next. Viewers could speculate about what kind of tactics might work against the interrogative, or imagine where they might hide the case and how they would try to misdirect the hunt.

This show I'm not sure where they can go with it. Teams go from one yawning puzzle to the next, sometimes being sent back to the starting line. Zzzzzz.

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While I am not sure about this show yet I would like to try and explain point 5. I know this may be a little far fetched but the guards are probably instructed to follow a pattern when they are walking and sweeping their flashlights. So as long as they don't hit the contestant with their flashlight while they are making their sweep, they don't "see them".

The problem with this obviously is that with the contestants running around and stuff, they are bound to hear them and maybe whip around and spot them. Obviously I am not privy to how the game is made but it is just an educated guess.

Also, point number 3. I believe one of the green team members said that he picked up the guitar and heard something in it. Then he said that they were frustrated and the guitar was a good thing to take it out on. So I think they suspected the key was in there and it gave them an excuse to smash it.

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I dub this show "The Great Bore". Those 3 teams are not worthy of being on Amazing Race. I hated hated hated it when the "contentants" stopped "playing the game" and faced the camera and made inane remarks.... The blue team made the dumbest remaks... Won't be putting this on my must see list. And 100K was way way way too much to give them.

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All the big network reality shows have a lawyer built rule book and some unseen rules and reshoots.

I gave the show way too much credit before seeing it. Thought it would be watchable, like Fort Boyard. Or that they'd have clever traps in place, such as "stage 4: bring your guitar to the warden's office" so that teams who blasted theirs into a million pieces would suffer compared to the more thoughtful and resourceful teams. I even thought there'd be some inter-team strategy, like a way to set another team back or join forces. Nope. Just a child's math question and a rousing game of find the gas can prop.

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you are right, Fort Boyard that was a good show, much better than this one, with a lot of credibility. I still watch reruns. That was real sharp show.

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Should have known by the fact no network picked it up, and it's airing as summer fill on 2nd or 3rd tier cable. But this show has a lot of heavy hitters involved. Perhaps some just lent their names to it and weren't as involved.

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Should have known by the fact no network picked it up, and it's airing as summer fill on 2nd or 3rd tier cable. But this show has a lot of heavy hitters involved. Perhaps some just lent their names to it and weren't as involved.


Agreed. Showcase is showing it up here in Canada, and they are 2nd tier at best. They run ads for it saying "From the makers/creators of TAR..." Got me thinking okay then why hasn't CBS picked it up? Watched an episode and it didn't take me too long to figure it out. I'd say it's a bit better than Take The Money And Run, but not by much.

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I too immediately knew that those guards should have seen the lights that were used to film the contestants. There has to be at least two other people behind the contestants while they are trying to hide and run simultaneously: one guy with the lights and one with the microphone. Couldn't they do this alittle bit better? PLUS there is too much talking interspersed with the "action". No, I didn't care for this one. Even reruns of the Amazing Race would be better.

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1 - They're 'filling' contestants.

1 - The first thing I said to my partner when they walked into the cells, "A key will be in the guitar"

3 - That's not good!

4 - They were embarrassing to watch

5 - I'm pretty sure that the guards are on a strict timetable and/or are set to start their walk once the prisoners appear etc. The game might not be fare otherwise.

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1. They seemed like a delightful couple, and I'm sure that many people in the audience of the Million-Dollar-Drop commented so. So, they were invited...

2. I agree with the above poster. He probably heard something, but was still frusterated.

3. ????

4. I do agree with you on that...his attitude was kind of...not natural in a way.

5. I wondered that too. I just chalked that up to maybe the guards have a pre-calculated path with their lights, and that determines whether they are caught or not.

I agree with you. This show, in no way, simulates a real escape from Alcatraz.

The only real challenge in the whole show was escaping the guards. Everything else seemed...easy. Ok...find a key, easy, use a magnet to get a key, find a gas can and a key, and whatever the last challenge was.

I think the show would be more successful if the players had to do things that the audience could figure out.

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I thought this was an entertaining show... until I figured out that it was rigged or at least enough to keep at least 2 teams as neck and neck as possible. I mean, the Green Team was way ahead until they were "miraculously" caught the first time the first time, which was just "coincidentally" after the other 2 teams actually said they needed to be.

And it became even more obvious later when both Green and Red were "caught" because the Blue Team never got out of the cell the second time until the other 2 were almost all of the way through the game and just so "happened" to finally get free.

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Your over usage of quotations only shows that you are only assuming everything, and using words like 'obviously' when in fact it's not obvious, it's just your opinion.

The show is ok. I mean I don't know what you guys were expecting. If camera men wouldn't be allowed to follow them then guess what? There wouldn't be a *beep* show cuz we wouldn't see anything. I mean I know people on IMDB are generally stupid, but don't try to apply logic to tv shows.

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This latest episode, (I assume) is edited so that it appears as though the green team is right behind the red team.

The red team moves away at some point from an approaching vehicle. They duck and a clip of a rattlesnake is shown and again back to the red team.

This excessive use of "tension" can be annoying sometimes. Especially if you watch a TV show from FOX.

But apart from that, I think that this kind of show can be entertaining if you just take it for what it is. And turn off brain activity and just go with it.

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All the green team had to do was watch the cameraman when they were looking for the gas can. As soon as they walked past under it, he pointed right at it.

It seemed like bad acting when...
1. the girl from the blue team found the boat key
2. the green team found the gas can

I could give them the benefit of the doubt and think that maybe it really did happen that way, but either the camera missed it, or there was a technical difficulty ie sound, lighting. This would require the producer to ask them to re-do their discovery a second time for the camera, resulting in bad acting.

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I think the show is somewhere between fake and real. The teams are probably given a long list of rules and suggestions. What they then do is up to them. If they get too far off track or fall way behind, they are probably given help.

And some things are faked. I'm watching an episode where teams have to rappel out a window. I don't see any wires or harnesses. Lawyers would never allow regular Joes off the street to crawl out a window like that. So I'm guessing that the rappelling scenes are filmed separately and the teams don't actually climb out the window during the game.

As for the guards, I'm sure that the guards are told to just walk a slow, predictable patrol and only shout out if a team blatantly walks in front of them. If a team makes even a minor effort to hide, the guard is not allowed to see them. Oh, and the guard is supposed to ignore the camera guy and any lights or production equipment.

So, it's real in that the players are running around looking for stuff, but it's fake in that they have limits what they can do (like they probably have to wait for the camera guy to catch up) and are probably helped out along the way.

It's cheesy, but kind of amusing.

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