A movie that makes Christian's look like lunatics? How convenient for the LGBTs. Why not give Muslims the keys to Hollywood, so they can take their turn? Then Satanists...
Christians are in-season so get your tickets now.
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I don't think this movie bashes christians in general. It shows one mad woman who happens to be christian. And as far as I know the mother is christian and mad in the original 1974 novel aswell. I also do not remember anything related to Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals or Transgenders in the film so I do not see how that is relevant. In my opinion you see what you want to see, but I do not really understand why christians should feel offended by this film.
Go make a movie!
No, but the director is a lesbian and she has the good fortune of being able to further the Hollywood stereotype of Christians as being fanatics and just plain crazy. Don't tell me that didn't appeal to the lesbian director!
You can't hardly name a Hollywood movie that doesn't portray Christians as crazy, sexually perverted or just pure evil. Which goes along with what Mayim Bialik recently said about Hollywood's attitude toward Judeo-Christian practitioners. She's a practicing jew, by the way, and she says it's shunned by Hollywood.
When you broaden your view, you see the bigger picture and there is alot to be seen. Peoples motivations become clear and everything starts to make sense. Her motivation is as pure as Steven Spielberg's for making Schindler's List. Hollywood wants to influence us, whether you want to believe that or not.
You're not alone though, so don't feel bad. On IMDb, there's always someone willing to dispute anything, no matter how indisputable and obvious it is.
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we're talking about a horror movie here. Christianity has been used in many horror movies for decades.
Guess what? This might blow your mind but filmmakers can portray your religion however they please.
No darling heart, it is people who are fanatics that make Christians look bad. This is not some kind of conspiracy against Christianity because the book was written in 1973 or something and it was the first Stephen King novel. The original movie was the same and so is this one. Who cares if a lesbian directed it or not. It is not as if she just made up everything because it was IN THE BOOK BY THE SAME TITLE. So, no conspiracy here.
Younger audiences cannot relate to the original one so they made a new one with new effects so I do not understand why you seem to think that it was anything intentional by the director. It uses some of the more fanatical Christians as a background to the story and talks about bullying, something I see a lot of so-called Christians do a lot of and have throughout history.
I am not putting you down, but you talk about the bigger picture and all of that. But no one has any motivations against Christianity except that the fanatical ones get in people's faces and say some very horrible and disturbing things. Wasn't it Christians that were out there yelling obscenities at this little black girl when the schools started to desegregate or is that and scared her, a little 7 or 8 year old girl to the point of making death threats to her, a child. Or did you forget about that? Or, slavery, denying women the right to vote, denying blacks the right to vote, Jim Crowe or are those things that don't count?
I am willing to bet you are a millennial and I hate to inform you of this, people can have all the religion they want, no one really cares. However, just like with the stupid gun argument, just because people do not want it in their face with other people pointing a bloody finger at them and telling them they are going to hell and call that a belief does not mean it is any kind of conspiracy against anyone. And, just like the stupid gun arguments, YOUR rights do not superseded MY rights to believe or not believe anything I want and vise versa. I did not even know the director was a lesbian and I do not see what it has to do with the price of tea in China, and that leads me to believe that maybe this is an issue with you.
We do not have to talk about god or goddess all the time and if that is what you want, then you go and do it. Have fun but do not dare try to make it seem like Christians are a persecuted bunch because they are not. If anything, they do a lot of persecution themselves and need no help from anyone is Hollywood. People in Hollywood have their beliefs, they just to do see the need to put it in everyone's face all the time, except for Kirk Cameron and that kid is a wackaloon.
Younger audiences cannot relate to the original one so they made a new one with new effects so I do not understand why you seem to think that it was anything intentional by the director.Pumpkin lips, I've said over and over that I'm aware of the book and the original movie. There's an intelligence deficit here that is keeping you people from grasping that all I'm saying or ever said was that she had to get satisfaction from reissuing this anti-Christian message to those young people you speak of. Is everyone really so thick that they can't understand my point or is it only arguable if you ignore what I really said and assign words to me that you can argue against? I never said or implied that she wrote the book created the mother character or any of that! I reiterate, all I was saying was, how appropriate and how satisfying it must've been for this lesbian woman (and yes it matters to me if she's a lesbian), because you can't deny that she likely found satisfaction in the mother's craziness, because she's a lesbian and wants anyone opposed to homosexuality to be cast in a negative light. Let's see if you can grasp my point this time...
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"You can't hardly name a Hollywood movie that doesn't portray Christians as crazy, sexually perverted or just pure evil."
The Conjuring, Annabelle, Devil, The Omen, Soul Food, just about every Tyler Perry film, Indiana Jones, Not Without My Daughter, Crash, Schindler's List, Mystic Pizza, Jennifer's Body, Juno, My Big Fat Greek Wedding, Remember the Titans, The Help.
And out of the trillions of movies ever made, that's hardly any π
Now to be serious, many of those probably aren't upholding Christian values and instead are portraying Christians in a non-Christian way. For example, the 2014 movie Heaven Is For Real portrays the dad, who is also a pastor, as having no faith, but goes about his day representing God, because it's all he knows how to do. He doesn't even actually, honestly believe. I wouldn't say that's a positive representation of Christians.
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Yes, out of trillions of movies those are only a few that do portray Christians as more than just negative people, it's not like I can list every one. And no, those do show strong Christian characters and do not insult the faith. Other examples are Soul Surfer, The Book of Eli, Braveheart, The Man in the Iron Mask and The Crucible.
shareAnd no, those do show strong Christian characters and do not insult the faith. Other examples are Braveheart.See this is what I'm talking about. Who in Braveheart is a "strong Christian character"? Be careful here...
You claimed most movies portray Christians or our faith badly and those movies don't.
shareI simply asked who in Braveheart is a good Christian. William Wallace sure wasn't. My point is people's standards are ever lowering.
I've seen most of the movies named but some I don't remember the Christian angle well enough to say if I agree or not. If you had said Gary Oldman's character in The Scarlett Letter, I'd have argued against that too. Both characters sinned of Lust and Wallace bashed alot of heads in and was prideful.
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Wallace was in a war against a tyrant. That's what has to happen.
shareThe lesbian director is also a Christian, idiot
shareThere's a reason atheists make movies that depict "one person" who does something bad. They are using that one person to represent all. Can a liberal make any movie that doesn't hate on someone? Some people, such as myself, just want to see good movies that don't have some agenda based on hate.
shareI guess everyone sees what he wants to see...
Go make a movie!
Let's see .. Christians claim there's an invisible man who lives in the sky and watches everything you do, and that this invisible man once became his own son in order to sacrifice himself to himself so he could get over being angry with us because a talking snake conned a naked woman into eating an apple. Now does that sound like something a sane person would believe?
shareNo, a sane person would believe a really huge space rock, somehow exploded. The debris from that explosion floated around for an incomprehensible amount of time, gathering itself into smaller space rocks. Fortunately for us, one of those space rocks, amazingly created itself a protective coating, defending it from the nearest, huge burning fireball and the leftover space debris. Then tiny one-celled animals magically appeared. Those tiny animals, through great effort and much meditation, transformed themselves into still microscopic two-celled animals. To make an incredibly long story short, those microscopic animals eventually turned themselves into many different creatures, but most importantly, into humans.
None of this has anything to do with my original post, however. My original post pointed out how obviously self serving the lesbian directors motivation was, to direct a movie that clearly portrays the opponent of homosexuality as a demented wacko. I wouldn't have even said anything, but this is a pervasive message, that Hollywood has been trying to influence unattended minds with forever. Alot of you don't seem to realize that movies are used to manipulate our thoughts and beliefs.
It's obvious, the creative forces behind the Hollywood curtain have a universal agenda and intend on shaping your perceptions and opinions.
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None of this has anything to do with my original post, however.
My original post pointed out how obviously self serving the lesbian directors motivation was, to direct a movie that clearly portrays the opponent of homosexuality as a demented wacko. I wouldn't have even said anything, but this is a pervasive message, that Hollywood has been trying to influence unattended minds with forever. Alot of you don't seem to realize that movies are used to manipulate our thoughts and beliefs.
And none of what you are complaining about in your original post has anything to do with why this movie was remade.And I never said it was why it was remade. My point has always been that it must do a homosexuals heart good and would be especially satisfying to get to portray Christians as total wackos.
And I never said it was why it was remade. My point has always been that it must do a homosexuals heart good and would be especially satisfying to get to portray Christians as total wackos.
It's done all the time by liberal Hollywood! They even make it a point to use curse words that are taboo to Christians (i.e. taking the lords name in vain). I hear GDs and JCs in movies as often as Hollywood's other most cliched curse, which is currently "for *beep* sakes."
You are aware that there are countless, COUNTLESS Homosexuals who were raised in religious households and/or even identify or consider themselves to be Christian or religious, right? Just because the Bible contains verses that speak against Homosexuality, doesn't automatically pit every fiber of every Homosexual against God. There are many in the LGBT community that hold their religious/Christian views very close to them.Any intelligent gay knows that the Bible doesn't just speak against homosexuality, it labels it an abomination! Gays that also profess to be a Christian, are just deluding themselves.
Sure, there are many Gays who are against Christianity or religion in general but a person doesn't have to be Gay to feel that way. There are many people who poke fun at Christians and other religions.
NEWS FLASH: You do not live in a Christian world.I live in a country founded upon Christianity, despite what the revisionist historians are teaching!
You're expecting Hollywood and the entire world around you to operate according YOUR view and religious faith.No, I'm only countering Hollywood's assault on morality. If you don't see it, you're missing something! Every movie today, contains copious drug use, promiscuity and/or homosexuality. And these things aren't portrayed in a negative light. They portray promiscuity as female empowerment, drug use as casual & commonplace and homosexuality as being as natural as heterosexuality. I'm 38 years old and I worry for our future as the percentage of gays increases. It's in vogue among school kids today. I meet many and it's very common for them to either say they're gay or to be going both ways.
This may come as a complete and total shock to you but not every action or word muttered in every movie or television program is used with the intention to tick you off or to make fun of you and your faith.I never said any of it was. I said they are purposely influencing our thoughts and beliefs, to suit their liberal agenda.
If you are this easily offended (and paranoid), then stick to watching reruns of Benny Hinn and the 700 Club.I have no idea what Benny Hinn is, unless you misspelled Benny Hill and I've never watched any religious program. You're jumping to the conclusion that I'm a Christian, when in reality, I'm just a person who believes it's moral code and would like to some day improve myself to the point, that I can feel like I belong amongst them.
Problem solved.You didn't solve any problem and the only way you could, would be to get Hollywood to stop glamorizing the things I've mentioned.
Any intelligent gay knows that the Bible doesn't just speak against homosexuality, it labels it an abomination! Gays that also profess to be a Christian, are just deluding themselves.
I live in a country founded upon Christianity, despite what the revisionist historians are teaching!
No, I'm only countering Hollywood's assault on morality. If you don't see it, you're missing something! Every movie today, contains copious drug use, promiscuity and/or homosexuality. And these things aren't portrayed in a negative light. They portray promiscuity as female empowerment, drug use as casual & commonplace and homosexuality as being as natural as heterosexuality. I'm 38 years old and I worry for our future as the percentage of gays increases. It's in vogue among school kids today. I meet many and it's very common for them to either say they're gay or to be going both ways.
I never said any of it was. I said they are purposely influencing our thoughts and beliefs, to suit their liberal agenda.
I have no idea what Benny Hinn is, unless you misspelled Benny Hill and I've never watched any religious program. You're jumping to the conclusion that I'm a Christian, when in reality, I'm just a person who believes it's moral code and would like to some day improve myself to the point, that I can feel like I belong amongst them.
You didn't solve any problem and the only way you could, would be to get Hollywood to stop glamorizing the things I've mentioned.
I'M DONE HERE, SO DON'T EXPECT ANOTHER REPLY(unless of course, you slander me in such a way, that I can't ignore).
You don't have to "improve yourself". Christianity is not about perfection. You come as you are. Nobody is perfect. God knows that and He loves and accepts everyone.Yes, you do have to strive to be the best person you can be. I'm not blind and I understand your point, but you can't just accept your flaws and keep repeating them. Your view is why a lot of Christians don't represent Christianity well. They think they can go out on Saturday night, get drunk and do whatever usually follows, then go to church on Sunday. Unless you mean, show up as you are and God will change you?
Yes, you do have to strive to be the best person you can be. I'm not blind and I understand your point, but you can't just accept your flaws and keep repeating them. Your view is why a lot of Christians don't represent Christianity well. They think they can go out on Saturday night, get drunk and do whatever usually follows, then go to church on Sunday. Unless you mean, show up as you are and God will change you?
I didn't say Christianity was a club, all I said and meant was that I'm not to that point yet, I'm not ready and that's a fact. I understand humans will never reach perfection, but that doesn't mean you don't try and that you just resign yourself to your sinful ways. I still get angry, I still get jealous, etc,. I have a wife and a daughter that I hold above God, and that's also wrong. I've come a long way, but I have a long way to go.
I respect some of the things you've said and I think you're a decent person. I just think you've bought into the kinder and gentler, PC movement, where I'm passed that. I used to fight for all those things as a teenager and now that the pendulum has swung the other way, I see everything has gone too far. As a nation, we can't support sinful ways and by legalizing gay marriage, that's what we're doing. Earlier you said lying is a sin as much as homosexuality is and that's not true, from where I stand, God destroyed Sodom & Gomorrah, not because people were lying. Homosexuality is especially offensive to God. Read Genesis 19.
I've never hated or wanted to harm gays, but I don't believe our government should support and sanction non-Christian ideals. I don't hate minorities, but I don't think we should be changing to suit them, they should be assimilating our culture and language. There should also be a cap on how many immigrants we can take in. And yes rap culture sickens me, but I wouldn't be bothered by it, if it hadn't permeated every aspect of our modern culture. My daughter is being influenced by it's disgusting messages.
You're obviously a christian and a lunatic. So how do you feel supporting racist stereotypes?
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dude, youre going full tard here...your ranting suggests mental illness
shareHave you watched Red State?
shareInfinite_Rage have you even read the book, or seen the original movie?
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Infinite_Rage have you even read the book, or seen the original movie?That's irrelevant to my point, which is, how self-serving it is for a lesbian to have the opportunity to portray Christians in the worst of lights. It's like a Cowboys fan getting to direct a movie about how dysfunctional the Washington Redskins organization is.
The OP is an arrogant, idiotic troll.
All of the "anti-christian" elements are pretty much a given with any adaption of Carrie. It all dates back to Stephen King's original novel. Take it up with him if you have such a problem.
"What's the ugliest part of your body? I think it's your mind."
All of the "anti-christian" elements are pretty much a given with any adaption of Carrie.*Adaptation I think I've explained this thoroughly and plenty of times, so it's obvious that you're just slow. My post doesn't charge her with writing the material! What I said was, how gleefully joyous a lesbian must be, to be fortunate enough to get her turn and to be influencing a new generation, to hate and think badly of Christianity. Get it now? You do see that Christianity is the enemy of homosexuality and it's convenient for gays to smear Christianity at every turn, right?
The OP is an arrogant, idiotic troll.I'm guessing this was pretty satisfying, because you got to defend gays, while carrying your PC torch against the proud enemy of PC(me). The disappointing part, for you, is that you're not intelligent enough to do so, which is congenital defect in the PC crowd.
There are zealots in every religion, and even atheists that are fanatical in their views. This story just happened to feature someone of the Christian faith.
Whether the director of this movie has heterosexual, homosexual, asexual, [insert whatever prefix here]sexual preferences, she was directing a (remake) movie based on the literary work of the same name by Stephan King. Get off your high horse and pick up a book.
ALSO, PRAISE BE TO THE SKY MUPPET!
I didn't know she was a lesbian. I guess that explains why she chose Chloe Mortez.
shareYes, Kimberly Peirce is a weathered, lesbian-haired gay and good point, I didn't actually know that Chloe was gay, too.
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Chloe isn't Gay, you moron. He was saying that the director may have picked her because she thought Chloe was attractive.
It's astounding to see how quickly you draw conclusions from your own misunderstands and run with them as if they are facts.
Respect what you have π
Chloe isn't Gay, you moron. He was saying that the director may have picked her because she thought Chloe was attractive.You're the moron! Chloe has gay brothers and her sexuality has been questioned by fans and the media. How the hell would you know what MiscoMuck meant anyway, you pretentious [BEEP]?
It's astounding to see how quickly you draw conclusions from your own misunderstands and run with them as if they are facts.You certainly assume much, that's way over your head. All I did was give consideration to what he said. I took nothing as fact and even now I don't know Chloe's sexuality, but after seeing the facts about her personal life, I think it's possible she's gay.
You're the moron! Chloe has gay brothers and her sexuality has been questioned by fans and the media. How the hell would you know what MiscoMuck meant anyway, you pretentious [BEEP]?
What is your personal motivation for getting all over me? You act like a desperate freak, making me wonder what your story is.
And? Just because she has Gay brothers and has had her sexuality questioned by media doesn't set her own personal sexual orientation in stone.Did I say her sexuality was set in stone? Did I even imply it was? I merely explained why, once MiscoMuck brought up Chloe, I looked her up and learned these things, that could increase the likelihood that she's gay. I had no inclination whatsoever, to question her sexuality beforehand.
It's pretty damn obvious what MiscoMuck meant. My understanding of his/her post was even confirmed in his/her response to me. (Notice he/she didn't respond to you).I didn't notice, because I don't troll the thread. So I mistook MiscoMuck's comment and what's your point about whether I noticed that MiscoMuck didn't reply to me?
And did you really just try to call me a name? I'm so offended. How UNChristian of you.As I said, I'm not a Christian and I will defend myself in kind. You've called me many names throughout these replies.
And I could just as easily ask you - What is your personal motivation for getting all over the director of this movie and assuming to know her mind and why she agreed to direct this remake?You must be slow, because I've explained over and over what my motivation is. Do I need to say it again? I can't understand though, why anyone, but a homosexual, would argue so vehemently in their favor.
Did I say her sexuality was set in stone? Did I even imply it was? I merely explained why, once MiscoMuck brought up Chloe, I looked her up and learned these things, that could increase the likelihood that she's gay. I had no inclination whatsoever, to question her sexuality beforehand.
I didn't notice, because I don't troll the thread. So I mistook MiscoMuck's comment and what's your point about whether I noticed that MiscoMuck didn't reply to me?
You must be slow, because I've explained over and over what my motivation is. Do I need to say it again? I can't understand though, why anyone, but a homosexual, would argue so vehemently in their favor.
Youre a Christian, dude-no one would argue that religious nonsense without some sort of investment
shareUnbelievable.
You are making all of this seem like something that it isn't. All this woman did was remake a 70s horror classic. She didn't write the story.
Just because she's a Lesbian, doesn't mean that she agreed to direct this film so that she could help further some Hollywood stereotype or poke fun at Christians.
If anything, you're the one who is trying to make a specific individual/group look bad by assuming that the director's sexual orientation served as motivation to make fun of Christians.
The director's sexual orientation has no relevance or connection to this remake. Get over it.
Respect what you have π
I never said she wrote it. I just know that Hollywood is full of liberals pushing the gay agenda and she must take pleasure in portraying Christians this way, which is more than "poking fun."
Whether you know it or not, the media and entertainment industry, intend to influence our thoughts, beliefs and perceptions.
It's too bad that entertainment isn't just that anymore. It's about portraying things in a favorable or unfavorable light to manipulate our thoughts.
Now go away, because you're coming off as a creeper, following me everywhere.
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I never said she wrote it. I just know that Hollywood is full of liberals pushing the gay agenda and she must take pleasure in portraying Christians this way, which is more than "poking fun."
Whether you know it or not, the media and entertainment industry, intend to influence our thoughts, beliefs and perceptions.
It's too bad that entertainment isn't just that anymore. It's about portraying things in a favorable or unfavorable light to manipulate our thoughts.
Now go away, because you're coming off as a creeper, following me everywhere.
Yes, Hollywood is filled with people who you do not agree with. The whole WORLD is filled with people who you do not agree with. That's life. You complain about Liberals "pushing the Gay agenda" but you never stop to think about how they feel about you "pushing your Conservative agenda". It works both ways. Both sides are always trying to "push" their views on everyone else. (I hate politics).Obviously you're working with an intellectual deficit or you'd see how one-sided my fight with Hollywood and the media is. They get to influence EVERYONE and I sit here arguing with you. Are my resources equal to theirs?
Of course. But not everyone allows who and what they watch on television to influence their political or religious stances.But we both know that if you hear or see something often enough, especially if it's popular, it does have an influential effect, especially on the young.
Obviously you're from the "Leave it to Beaver" generation. I agree that there are some bizarre and distasteful things on television but to assume that it's the goal of everyone and everything in Hollywood to 'brainwash' viewers is a bit stupid.No, I've never even seen Leave It To Beaver, I was born in '77 in a little rural part of Ohio. I am 5 years younger than my brother, and all my cousins are his age or older, so I've been exposed to a more honorable and innocent lifestyle. And I never said "everyone and everything," but when people argue, they often exaggerate the others position, so I understand.
Obviously you're working with an intellectual deficit or you'd see how one-sided my fight with Hollywood and the media is. They get to influence EVERYONE and I sit here arguing with you. Are my resources equal to theirs?
I hate politics too, but I'm not gonna let my country go the way it's going, without even struggling against it!
No, I've never even seen Leave It To Beaver, I was born in '77 in a little rural part of Ohio. I am 5 years younger than my brother, and all my cousins are his age or older, so I've been exposed to a more honorable and innocent lifestyle. And I never said "everyone and everything," but when people argue, they often exaggerate the others position, so I understand.
I wonder if you read this? [From CNN] Mayim Bialik said that having faith in Hollywood circles isn't "trendy." "I think in general it's never going to be trendy to be observant or religious in Hollywood circles," the actress said. "There are people I know of faith and we tend to congregate together.
Then I suggest you grab your torch and pitchfork and make your way down to the Whitehouse to tell the person that we have in office (since I won't call him 'president') and tell him how you feel about the country's direction.We agree on something π
Isn't it obvious what Mayim Bialik is saying? Isn't she saying Hollywood ostricizes believers? That was my point, Hollywood wants to undermine Christianity and make it look like a silly superstition.
When I was a kid, it was shameful to not believe in God, but talk about Christianity on here now and you'll have kids all over you, saying how stupid you are for believing in something they see as made up and silly. That's what I see as Hollywood's influence in action.
Firstly, I was a Christian for many, many years, but in recent times, I have soured to it, and don't practice it as much now (I still do a lot of moral things, I just don't go to church, read my Bible etc, anymore).
When I went to church, you are told to go out and push Christianity onto people. You are made to feel that if you don't push it, and they die, then you are responsible for them going to hell. So, with that pressure, can't you see why many Christians, especially young people, feel pressured into pressuring everyone else. I always felt like the relaxed approach, when the subject came up in normal conversation, is better.
Just letting you know that Christian pushiness isn't always meaning that Christians are obnoxious judgemental weirdos. Many are normal people, who sometimes get caught in the "one-upmanship" of how many people have they converted, against how many others have (like God cares who has converted more). There is peer pressure and wanting to please others rampant in the churches, like everywhere else in society, so try to see that their pressure is not necessarily a reflection of what the Christian him or herself is like.
I'm Baptist, so you're preaching to the choir here.
Hope changes everything.
so youre a dumb, narrow minded white person from the Midwest who wants things to be "white" again? not happening, Bubba. Dont blame your currently *beep* life on liberals or gays or other people who have actually faced discrimination and beaten it in the law.
shareTheres no gay agenda, you stupid tit-its just about equality-and we're almost there so its all good
shareoh yeah how dare we show religious fanatics in a movie? we must pretend they don't existYour ignorance betrays your taste in music. I think it's clear that I'm complaining about the frequency of these portrayals. According to Hollywood, 90% of devout Christians are inbred weirdos, radically insane, sexually perverted or just plain evil.
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