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Season Finale Parallels


Does Jordan Graff = Richard Spencer?

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No, the writers clearly meant Jordan Graff to be a stand-in for Donald Trump. First, he's a real estate developer. Second, white supremacist, which Trump is accused of being. Third, look at the name. Jordan (six letters, two vowels, two syllables) Graff (five letters, one vowel, one syllable) and Donald (six letters, two vowels and the same vowels as Jordan, two syllables) Trump (five letters, one vowel, one syllable). This is not a coincidence. It took a lot of thought to come up with a name that was supposed to remind us of Trump.

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I did not/do not see any parallels to Trump.

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I too don't see the parallels because I reject the left's caricature of Trump. However, I believe it was the intent of the writers that we would look at the Graff character and see Trump. After all, why else have a white supremacist arc right before the election? I actually found it quite irritating and off-putting.

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Why assume it was election driven? The Alt-Right has been growing in numbers for a while.

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The alt-right is downright scary. They are a reboot of fascists fm the mid-20th century. Their ideology is driven by fear and rage. Those attributes are never good "drivers" since they cause more "wrecks" than they tend to avoid!

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fascists fm the mid-20th century.



Ah...so they're 'all bound together as one' like the fasci then? Or is it because they don't think 'the same as you'?







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understand that the Universe doesn't owe you anything!?

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"Alt-Right" -- neo-fascists because of the supremacist ideology the espouse and the willingness to demean others. They make all the same noises that Mussolini, Franco, and Hitler made.

Questions?

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why you talk about em like they aint even human

Why can't you wretched prey creatures understand that the Universe doesn't owe you anything!?

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What are you talking about?

"They/Them" is perfectly correct when speaking of ppl or objects in the third person plural form.

I keep cats, so I am perfectly aware of what "prey creatures" look like in action. If it moves, it gets pounced. However, humans were not created to be "prey creatures" upon one another. Preying upon fellow humans is aberrant behavior.

The alt-right is all wrong!

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Ah...so they're 'all bound together as one' like the fasci then? Or is it because they don't think 'the same as you'?
Do you agree with them?

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Them? you mean the giant ants? Nah...bernie was my guy. But I had no idea what his immigration policy was. It seems that even mentioning the idea of a policy sends some folks into hysterics so why not have a 'rediculous' policy as a talking point. ANYWAY...as I've said before the 'real' race war in LA is between blacks & Mexicans. The mex have ethically cleansed neighborhoods-EVEN well known ones like Compton & San Dimas, so the whole idiotic neo nazi plot thread is a PC diversion. The script writers are either 'unaware' or are afraid to talk about it for fear of being tarred as 'anti immigrant'.





Why can't you wretched prey creatures understand that the Universe doesn't owe you anything!?

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So, your issue is they aren't the majority you see in California?

The Alt-right is growing. That is a fact. Richard Spencer is a racist, and his message is spreading. This isn't about immigration, and it isn't about what you feel the "real race war" is. It's about the fact the Alt-right has been growing in the shadows for a decade. We don't know what their true numbers are, but they have a huge following of members and no-members because of Breitbart and other media sites.

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oooooo...the bogeymen are coming. So far the only alt right guy I know if that Milo guy: a gay jewish greek guy who is turned on by black men....oooooo Brietbart; Kinda like why not read Pravda & Tass comrade? No need to listen to radio free europe.



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oooooo...the bogeymen are coming. So far the only alt right guy I know if that Milo guy: a gay jewish greek guy who is turned on by black men....oooooo Brietbart; Kinda like why not read Pravda & Tass comrade? No need to listen to radio free europe.
Seriously? You don't know that Richard Spencer is the founder of the Alt-Right. Milo Yiannopoulos is the technology editor for Breitbart. He did not start the Alt-Right. He wrote a piece on them, and he is a Christian.

The Alt-Right has been growing steadily since 2008. It may not be on your radar, but that just means you're unaware. It doesn't mean it isn't real.

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Oh....He's a Christian... how awful.

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You claimed he wasn't. I was just correcting you.

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Oh he was Christian Gay guy with a greek name...and NOT jewish. CLaro.




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Thank you for the clarification. I didn't realize the reason you can't see the rise of racism is your beliefs are aligned with theirs. Good to know.

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a rise in racism...how exactly? I mean for a country of a third of a billion that is...



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Nick -- there is only ONE RACE. The human race. All the other stuff is a matter of what's for dinner.

The alt-right would have you believe that non-whites (Aryans) are less than human. This flies in the face of ALL of humanity being made in the Image of God. The alt-right is all wrong.

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First...why are your knickers in a twist over the quote below: It ain't like very other tom richard & harry can quote their favorite, movie game, novel etc

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Secondly...the main person I see with the Alt Right is that Milo guy. Some how a gay greek jewish guy who digs black guys just ain't my idea of white surpremacist material. And again the 'white supremacist' angle in LA is dumb--like I said the real ethnic cleansing is done by the Mexican cartel 'bangers.

Anyways, you say we're all human but you seem to not be able to tolerate allernate viewpoints & you're willing to vote for somebody who:

Thinks it's good to have a private & public opinion--IE Bad mouth wall street in public but privately take their money & 'make nicey nice';

Says she believes in open borders & dreams of a world where people money & jobs can go wherever they want;

Indulged in dirty tricks to knock off her closest rival (bern!)

Had staffers 'conspire' with rabble rousers to start trouble at the rallys of 'the other guy' (again I did not vote for him);
And probably the most embarassing of all: The old news was totally in that other person's corner: ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, Times, Newsweek, NYT, WaPo; the big search engines life Yahoo Google & social media sites like Facebook were also totally in her corner, highling the other guys' faults & burying her problems on page 40. Then there's the dopey sight of actors, musicians, studio heads, comedians all carrying her water. I'm sure they were devastated as they slunk back to their villas on Lake Cuomo or mansions in Brentwood.



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I tht you were talking to me since your post was directly under mine as if it were replying to mine.

At ease, Soldier.

I voted 3rd Party as well. I found both major party candidates to be lacking in integrity and character.

I view the alt-right as predators, thus my exception to the phrase.

Yes, I fail to understand why celebrities so often stand with the socialists and Marxists. If the politics fell to the leftwing, the celebrities would be the first pushed out of mansions, a la Dr Zhivago LOL

We're good.

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Bueno...while I don't see a huge rising white racist tide, I am glad you are 3rd party too. To tell the truth, I went with bern because..well there's no easy way to say it but it looked like Ultra Lefties were on the rise & I wanted to get on the train--which is funny cuz I am THE righty wingy est guy I know(and my family is full of bolsheviks-REAL ones) but as a craven opportunist I figured I should get on board. They can't send you to 'The Gulag' for what you think, right? As long as you don't say it.








Why can't you wretched prey creatures understand that the Universe doesn't owe you anything!?

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A lot of folks have been sent away for "thinking too much" when the crazies are in charge.

Look what happened to Uncle Whazzhizzname of Lil Kim in the DPRK. He got fed to the dogs for parting his hair the wrong way...

No totalitarian is to be trusted. Most are paranoid as all get out. That makes them suspect any and all, making them quite dangerous to the rest of us. History is loaded w/crazy rulers -- Caligula, Nero, Herod the "Great" (tis the season)

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Bueno...while I don't see a huge rising white racist tide, I am glad you are 3rd party too. To tell the truth, I went with bern because..well there's no easy way to say it but it looked like Ultra Lefties were on the rise & I wanted to get on the train--which is funny cuz I am THE righty wingy est guy I know(and my family is full of bolsheviks-REAL ones) but as a craven opportunist I figured I should get on board. They can't send you to 'The Gulag' for what you think, right? As long as you don't say it.








Why can't you wretched prey creatures understand that the Universe doesn't owe you anything!?

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Oh and...very prescient to mention cats'....at least in a Larry Niven sort of way.





Why can't you wretched prey creatures understand that the Universe doesn't owe you anything!?

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You do know episodes are written MONTHS in advance before they get filmed? Considering your name you probably don't.

My son is also named Bort

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