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The most frightening thing


I had read the review of this documentary, watched some videos and theres one thing that's a little bit frightening.

Evryone is telling things like this movie would be fantastic but they forget about one thing.

What if NOW someone would give the director the hance to direct the movie as he had envisioned it??

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whats so frightening about it?
I dont think it would work now the guy is 84 years old....
....its a miracle he is still making stuff.

" Look, there's two women fuc*ing a polar bear!"

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What if NOW someone would give the director the hance to direct the movie as he had envisioned it??
He can't even make the scratch to put out a new project, and that's even with Lynch's help. Not surprisingly, Lynch struggles to finance his own work.

....its a miracle he is still making stuff.
What "stuff"? He hasn't done anything filmic for yonks.

An approximation of this would be the Alien franchise continued by Jodorowsky. I'd kill to see that.

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" What "stuff"? He hasn't done anything filmic for yonks. "


He just made a movie. Its called Dance of Reality

" Look, there's two women fuc*ing a polar bear!"

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I dismissed it for autobiographical rubbish, but it looks like he's weaved his magical acid aesthetic. Thanks for putting it back on my radar.

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What does age have to do with anything? Kurosawa and Eastwood have made great movies while in their 80's.

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Non of them had a 23 year gap between a film in that age.

" Look, there's two women fuc*ing a polar bear!"

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Eastwood ... you mean that one with the chair?

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yep.

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So only young directors can make movies work?

You're not making sense. Stop it.

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Please show me where I implied that.

" Look, there's two women fuc*ing a polar bear!"

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I would, if you reposted your previous post.

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The thing is, it just wouldn't work. As mind blowing as the film sounded, it would have been a product of the 70's, with the design and the themes (I won't spoil too much but let's say Jodorowsky had significantly changed the ending of the book in his script)

Also, while the film would have been ahead of its times, all of its ideas were then stolen by so many sci-fi films after him (it's well explained in the documentary) so it would not appear new

It is a real shame that it was never made

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yeah i never thought id say this, but id trade alien for the real Dune

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I have not seen this documentary yet and probably can't until it comes out on dvd/bluray, so can you tell me w/ spoiler tags, what was the script ending and could you give an example of what ideas were ahead of their time?

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Spoiler: in jodorowsky´s script Paul loses the final fight against feyd and dies

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"a disaster" - like 2001 or The Shining?

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Although a film version today is too much to ask a graphic novel of the script incorporating original artwork would be FANTASTIC!!!

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Among the 1001 films you can't miss is his masterpiece EL TOPO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3joYVNyyi5w

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Exactly! You may jest, but yes, exactly the same kind of disaster.

Movies depicting hours and hours on end of a director stroking off his own overblown ego, with zero regard for the source material.

Movies over-hyped by brain dead pseudo-intellectuals, who praise them because it's what everyone else does; and otherwise politely tolerated by actual intellectuals for fear of losing their credibility with the former.

Movies - dull and uninteresting, dominated by hours of establishing shots and awkward silence in thoroughly inadequate attempts to convey atmospheres and feelings, originally depicted (usually in a mere sentence) by true masters, the likes of which Kubrick can only dream to be a pale shadow of.

Movies that constantly make you go "What?!", "This wasan't like that in the book!" and "OMG he completely misunderstood the ending, DID HE EVEN READ IT?".

Yeah -- this one had the potential of being exactly THAT kind of disaster indeed. :)

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What are you going on about, I was somewhat with you until you wrote, "by true masters, the likes of which Kubrick can only dream to be a pale shadow of. "

Who the hell are these true masters that you speak of?

You know what the Queen said? If I had balls, I'd be King.

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Well in this case, since the conversation was revolving around Kubrick's inadequate attempts at adapting The Shining and 2001: A Space Odyssey, of course I was talking about Stephen King and Sir Arthur Clarke. But I suppose in the grander context of the topic, I was talking about Frank Herbert as well.

I personally consider all three to be among the best storytellers that the 20th century has to offer.

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> What are you going on about, I was somewhat with you until you wrote, "by true masters, the likes of which Kubrick can only dream to be a pale shadow of. "

> Who the hell are these true masters that you speak of?

I fear it is called "schizophrenia".

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Exactly! You may jest, but yes, exactly the same kind of disaster.

Movies depicting hours and hours on end of a director stroking off his own overblown ego, with zero regard for the source material.

Movies over-hyped by brain dead pseudo-intellectuals, who praise them because it's what everyone else does; and otherwise politely tolerated by actual intellectuals for fear of losing their credibility with the former.

Movies - dull and uninteresting, dominated by hours of establishing shots and awkward silence in thoroughly inadequate attempts to convey atmospheres and feelings, originally depicted (usually in a mere sentence) by true masters, the likes of which Kubrick can only dream to be a pale shadow of.

Movies that constantly make you go "What?!", "This wasan't like that in the book!" and "OMG he completely misunderstood the ending, DID HE EVEN READ IT?".

Yeah -- this one had the potential of being exactly THAT kind of disaster indeed.


So well said. That film would, indeed, have been a disaster of some sort or another. You've presented many of which might be many more versions of such.

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@Spender-J-Gant: Since you don't know jack about Jodorowsky you're disqualified to have a written opinion on the matter. So please educate yourself on what Jodorowsky HAS written before you come back with a reply.

I would rather have seen a 12 hour movie about the METABARONS in stead of DUNE. Would be much more original and futuristic too. With the quality of digital effects of today it would have been a very interesting project. And we would have avoided all the Herbert nuts complaining about "he did not even read the books".

If not that I'd like to have seen TECHNOPRIESTS saga made into a movie or a CGI animation. Both are exceptionally well written. I could not wait until the next chapter to be released - the story was so all consuming.

An animation of the INCAL could have been nice too

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Jodorowsky has said that lot of ideas from his dune were used in metabarons,etc.There was going to be an incal animated movie,trailer is on YouTube.

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I saw this movie today at a film festival here in Sweden and managed to ask Pavich who was there to answer questions if, as Jorodowsky was pretty open to other people continuing his work, other people had shown any interest in attempting it.

He replied that as Jorodowsky was actually considering something animated now instead, that a director named Jan Kounen had shown some interest in trying it. But it remains to be seen if anything will happen.

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That's not frightening. I want it to happen.

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It will be all CGI now though. That's what's even more heartbreaking.



Shaka Da Gnu

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I know.

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Yup. All CG. 90 Min. Forced and unnatural romantic element added. T-Mobile Advertising Tie In. Fast Food advertising tie in.

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With Jodorowsky behind the wheel? No. Just no. Which is probably why he never got the money to do the film, as depressing as that is.

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Your arguments are insurmountable! I stand defeated! :D

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people he wanted to work with are either dead or retired or old now. the vision is dead.

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