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I don't understand what happened at the very end. Not the twist but the end where they gave someone the baby, and then they showed the hammer and the thing on the wall. Was that supposed to be her sister, or what? I SO didn't understand this movie, even with the twists.

"Not all who wander are lost."--J.R.R. Tolkien

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Yeah, I felt like we were supposed to get more out of that last bit then we (or at least I) did. I think the editor and director kind of screwed the pooch on this one. Seems like there was a decent plot in there somewhere.

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I like twists, but some twists just make me mad. Once they revealed that Wade didn't exist, I was just at a loss. I mean didn't Lucy talk to the babysitter about Wade and mention him to her? And the guy who was apparently the baby's father--he just let her go on and on all that time about Wade and didn't say anything? And the pictures? What were they, to show that Wade wasn't there? Because it seemed really creepy that he was outside all that time taking pictures. The whole thing was just screwy.


"Not all who wander are lost."--J.R.R. Tolkien

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Yeah, that picture thing was really weird. Just came across as freaky stalker instead of gathering 'evidence' to show her. That whole friend/lover/shrink character was really poorly written. The whole scene of the exposition was terribly done. It felt like 95% of the 'flashes' were completely meaningless and gave us nothing as far as information. And what the he** with the babysitter. What was the point of her whole character? And why did she play along with the imaginary husband stuff? And what about the sister? Why didn't she try to get her obviously mentally ill sister help? The movie was kind of a disaster.

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I agree, and like I said, it made no sense about Glen because like I said, he knew she was delusional, apparently, and not only did he not say anything, but he let her go on working as a counselor or whatever she was without reporting that she's crazy? Doesn't seem plausible. It's on again, and now I'm thinking, hmmm, ok, now I get why her sister acted all weird on the phone at the beginning AND when she talked about Wade because her sister knew she was crazy.

But if anyone can explain definitively what was happening at the very end, I would like to hear it.

"Not all who wander are lost."--J.R.R. Tolkien

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The ending wasn't really confusing. The baby was given to the sister/cousin because his parents are dead. As far as the hammer and the man's face on the wall, I think that they were showing the old house, where Lucy, "Wade", and Jack lived---not the sister's house where the baby is now. They showed his crib at the old house as well. The sister will not be haunted and ghosts will not be attracted to the baby because the ghosts were not real. They were figments of Lucy's imagination.

As far as the babysitter going along with imaginary Wade and not saying anything about him not being real, it is likely that she did not know that Wade wasn't real. Since pretend Wade had a job, his absence could be explained by him going to work before the babysitter arrived. Glen never came around the house, other than to take pictures outside, so Jack's paternity would not be in question.

As for the sister not getting help for Lucy, she knew that she was getting help already, because at one point, she mentioned that Glen had called her.

There are a couple of possible reasons why the sister did not call Lucy out on Wade not being real:
1. She simply did not know. She could have lived far away since they only communicated by phone and was not privy to who did or did not father her sister's baby. (Glen may not have mentioned Wade to her either) It was obvious when the baby was placed in her arms at the end and she said, "He's beautiful," that it was the first time that she had met the baby.
2. Another possibility is that Glen had asked the sister to not tell Lucy that Wade was not real, as part of her therapy. That would explain the awkward phone conversations.

Glen did not tell Lucy that Wade was not real during their sessions because he (as part of her therapy) had to let her remember and come to grips with reality on her own. Feeding memories to a person that has repressed them could be damaging.
































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Thanks for the very informative response! It cleared up a lot.

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When did Lucy die?

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Near the end, once she realized she was crazy and what she had done, she didn't want her child to be raised by her, so she was sitting in the bathtub, and was about to put a toaster or something in the tub, and then they went to a view from outside the house, and you saw a flash inside. So it's implied that she killed herself.

"Not all who wander are lost."--J.R.R. Tolkien

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OK, I can see most of that, and I did realize that there weren't actually ghosts and was going to say something about that. I just thought it was weird that they would show the hammer and the thing on the wall right after they showed the baby being given to the sister or whoever it was supposed to be.

I guess going through something that traumatic could make anyone crazy, but it's hard to imagine someone convincing themselves they have a husband and are talking to him, hugging him, seeing him everywhere, having sex with him. And she just started that when she was pregnant or had had the baby or what? Because otherwise she would have realized that Glen was the father (although I kept thinking the whole time, "Really? She dated this guy? He's old enough to be her father, and I can't see someone as pretty as her with someone like that."

"Not all who wander are lost."--J.R.R. Tolkien

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Well, the psychic lady said that entities could be attached to people or houses. She said someone in the house was probably attracting ghosts. She said it could be the baby. Also, I'm not sure why (this movie was confusing) but at some point the main character was screaming at her ghostdad that he couldn't have the baby. So, I guess the end implies that whoever is taking the baby will be also be haunted, because the ghosts are attracted to the baby?

I really don't know though. The last 45 minutes didn't make any sense to me.

EDIT:from reading other posts, it seems she was crazy and none of that stuff ever happened? Wow I really was drifting off at the end. I stopped paying close attention by the 20 mins or so. I caught the last coupleof minutes and made some broad assumptions about what must have happened. I, too have no clue what the end meant either).


"that hexagon-face bitch, she's so passive-aggressive."
-SpencerFan

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Oh my gosh! The babysitter sits there and says, "The fact that you and Wade are having the same dream means...", as if it were totally normal to have a conversation about someone you know doesn't exist. The girl seemed way too sensible to do that. Also, watching it again, she and Glen are having a conversation where he also acts as if Wade is real. The only thing interesting about watching it a second time is trying to look at everything knowing what we know about it all.

"Not all who wander are lost."--J.R.R. Tolkien

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Wow!! this was the BEST thread on any movie I've ever read on IMDB! we were in stitches here, reading it all, because it was exactly what we were saying here..all of it. So confusing, unrealistic, and crazy! Plus, it looked like the whole thing was filmed using one digital camera, all in lone location..the "office" was a kitchen in the big house, the outer office was a porch in the house...no budget was given, so I'm guessing it was FREE to make the movie!
I was reading everything out loud, and when I got to the post from the person who had apparently ignored all the other posts, still thinking there were ghosts..then in the edit admitted that same fact, and that they had made some "wild assumptions"...I thought I'd pass out.
So, thank you, one and all, for making watching this movie worthwhile after all!
😂👏

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And another thing...what was the point of filming so much of the movie from ground level?!?!? It's like the "cameraman" heard one time in his life that Orson Wells filmed at odd angles, and how artistic it was...so.................

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