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Total misrepresentation of womankind!


In line with so many other movies of the same kind, this movie also totally misrepresents women. First off, the whole "all women are bitches" stereotype (the same as the "all men are unfaithful" one), is probably the biggest cliche in modern Bollywood. And the three guys in the movie have got to be sado-masochistic gluttons for punishment, and losers to boot to take that kind of sh*t. They just bend over and take it and all they can do is bitch to each other and weep.

The director finds a way to vent his own frustration through the movie probably, and all the guys who have ever been in a bad relationship stand up and applaud. Its pitiful really. I won't even say exceptions exist, because that would mean that most women are bitches. But they are not. I have known some horrible women. But i am also "Committed" to someone, and she is one of the most loving, caring and understanding person, i have ever known. I'm sorry, but this movie just doesn't work for me.









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This is the most accurate representation of girls!

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I also agree with popthree comment about girls.eventhough this movie may not be accurate for all the girls of now a day but to some extend it represents those stereotype girls which exists now a days and treat boys in a manner as it has been shown in this movie.I don't mean that after watching this movie everyone should began to hate girls but its trying to make us be careful with such girls who treats boys as dogs.films which are made in 70's and 80's used to show man being cruel to woman but it doesn't mean that the man of those era were bad and used to treat exactly as it is shown in movie.it used to represent those half minded cruel man's who used to treat woman in such manner.similary this movie also represents those modern educated stereotype girls who treats boys like dogs and toys.so be careful boys.

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Agree with this. I am guessing the characters shown in the movie represent a very small percentage of women, but the movie showed as if all women fall in those 3 categories. I have been with my girlfriend for 3 years now, and I am glad she is not like any of the women shown here.

However, I still enjoyed the movie...in the story, these guys were just unfortunate to meet such girls. I agree that they bend over and take it, but the movie shows that they were in a relationship for the first time and they learned from their experiences. I do agree though that the senti part towards the end could have been shortened.

I had seen this movie in a group and found that all the single guys liked it (they felt good about their involuntary single status!) and all the married guys disliked it for the reasons similar to nikomachette's.

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I think the OP's(Nikomachette's) g/f was behind him when he was writing the post.
You do not need to justify your successful relationship to criticice this movie.
what is ur point mate? why are you taking this personally?

"I have known some horrible women. But i am also "Committed" to someone, and she is one of the most loving, caring and understanding person, i have ever known."

So u do agree that some women are horrible. This movie is about those "some horrible women". Its just a movie. However the nagging, adultery and use-n-throw attitudes of each of three women were shown a bit over the top, they are there in most, if not all women.

Chill n take a Pill.

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well i think there must be that sqeeling sound of dog going around in background when u(nicomachete) wrote the post, plus offcourse your ever loving gf sitting besides you watching your every letter.
dude, everyone is not dumb. this is what comes closest to what women are. you may not have realised this but u sure will eventually. it is guys who adapt themselves according to them, or just chose not to(and break it). everyone here has been in relationships, and many have suffered worse.
i guess the movie wont click to those who dont have many guy friends, and like to spend most of their time with their gfs anyway.

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"i guess the movie wont click to those who dont have many guy friends, and like to spend most of their time with their gfs anyway." - You nailed it there mate. well said.

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NO WOMEN NO CRY-BOB MARLEY
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The movie is not about misrepresenting womankind, but it's about only those some good boys who got used by some not so good girls and also about boys' friendship, that's it. I'm sure many mature girls and almost all boys(both mature and immature) will like this movie!

It was total fun and it very good movie.

8/10 rated.

again misrepresenting of womankind is not an issue in this movie.

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Isn't this amazing! Everyone here resorts to personal insults, just because they don't agree with my point. Beautiful really!

For those few of you who made valid arguments I'd ask, why then didn't even a single one of the relationships shown in the movies work out? Why would all three of the girls be b*tches? The fact that all three are represents in a random selection of three women, 100% are man-eating tyrants! Is that right?

And for those who have made all those disgusting comments about me and my girl, I don't give a sh*t what you think! By making a show of your frustration, you are only proving my point. So please carry on. Be my guest.









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I thought the movie was great. But I don't entirely agree or disagree with the poster.
My interpretation of the film is entirely different. I don't think it meant to stereotype or generalise women to being bitches. It's pretty obvious that the audience isn't stupid, and nobody's going to assume that ALL the women in the world fall into one of three categories: the user, the abuser and the one who keeps you hanging.
I think the director just chose to show how men can be vulnerable too. And that's why these three men got into these three very different relationships. The background of the boy characters that is given in the first half hour, makes it easily plausible why they would be "dumb" enough to fall for the ploys of the three girls.
And as someone said in the thread before, it's about friendship - it's only because of the other two that the third is able to stand up for himself or even discuss his problems, as people tend to have this silly belief that men don't discuss their feelings. This is something confined to womankind again.
I agree that perhaps some people may feel that the feel generalises that all women are like this, I'd like to think that it's about three men who fall into three different yet wrong relationships with three women. Plain and simple.

I presume if there would have been an inkling at the end that the boys found true happiness in some other girls who were wonderful and sweet then nobody would care as much.
I personally think that 5-minute monologue about women is one of the most inspired pieces of writing for a hindi movie. It may be stereotypical, but to a certain extent it is true. We must remember that stereotypes are born out of a group of people having a similar characteristic and not one individual. I've known so many girls my entire life (including myself), I can easily say that we do tend to do most of those things. I guess if you're in love, you'd be sugar coating most of your partner's faults. And this works both ways.

Finally, I understand that the OP is a guy. But dude, guys have had to take on a lot of flak all these years and have been stereotypes into "dogs, commitment phobes, horny bastards and the like." I really think you should open your mind and let women take it for a change.

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phunsuk_wangdu

First of all, THANK YOU for making your point WITHOUT dissing me and my point of view. Most other people on these threads seem to be exceedingly good at that.

Secondly, your point makes sense. I guess I didn't see that angle. And now that you put it that way, it seems more acceptable. At least we agree about the stereotypes.

About letting women take it though.. Hmm. maybe not. I don't think any retaliation is justified. There is good AND bad on both sides of the fence. Notice that in my opening post, I do mention this. The cycle of aggression will never be broken if we don't break it!









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Who cares if the movie misrepresents women. If you need a movie to tell you how the women you meet are going to be - as compared to actually getting to know them - then you deserve to be mislead and treated like a dog. It's a movie, and a humorous one that catches one point of view. If someone takes this as a bible, it's because of their personal frustration and lack of ability to control their lives and relationships. It's not going to change society, lol.

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