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Very good movie if u understand it.

posted 10 years ago by clickbait
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I didnt like it at first, but after reading some threads here and rewatched it, i got it pretty clear of what is going on and how the story rly pans out, and it is good...rly smart and good, but the downside is, that its almost to smart for its own good, cause u shouldnt need to rewatch a movie to understand it and then enjoy it. But my suggestion is, rewatch it and look for different colors in different scenes and u will understand that almost nothing is not what it seems to be, and almost everything that happens are under hypnosis of different characters. Different colors, different characters hypnosis, Rosario is a mastermind that trigger each character with different kind of hypnosis and that shows in different kind of colors.

[–] huwdj 9 years ago

I think that's the problem with the film, it has loops with in loops and didn't manage to hold my interest while the story unfolded. I didn't need to read elsewhere to understand the film - at least I think I understood it so don't need to. But a film with a really convoluted story needs everything else to work - and for me it didn't.

[–] dustyoldbones 9 years ago

not trying to sound pretentious here
I understood it the first time, and predicted A LOT of the major plot points.

it was intense and even enthralling for the first 40 minutes ,but the movie took a nose dive right around when Rosario Dawson's character was introduced.

I mean come on. A HYPNOTIST CHARACTER who can manipulate people to do anything she wants, combined with her weird reactions to everything involving the main character? they obviously have a past together.

so that made me bored half way through, waiting for the movie to catch up to what I had already figured out. so when it came to the plot twists at the very end,
I wasn't surprised or interested. I just didn't care. At all.

This is a movie that is so convoluted it won't let you turn your brain off, but at the same time it is ruined if you actually analyze it and are half decent at predictions and reading foreshadowing.

At the end I didn't care AT ALL that Simon was the abusive boyfriend(which I predicted instantly thanks to the weak foreshadowing) I just wanted him to shoot the hypnotist in the head,burn frank alive with the painting, and go on his crazy way.

a terrible movie.

[–] Manuel-Hoerth 8 years ago

@ dustyoldbones

See, that is exactly the point the others where trying to make. The strength of the movie is also it's weakness. The strength lies in the fact that the movie is actually really, really, deep, with layers beneath layers. But that is also it's weakness, it is TOO deep for people to understand the first time they watch it, but they THINK they understood it all and figured it all out already and even feel kinda disappointed by how shallow the movie was, so they have no desire to watch it again. Which is a real shame, cause they are missing out on what is actually going on.
So the movie is too deep for is own good as mainstream audiences will not get it on their first watch, but they will think they got it and so will not watch it again.
That is why there are so few movies like that and why most movies are not as deep as this movie, as most movies just try to make money and therefore focus on a mainstream audience. Which makes it even more difficult to understand this movie as we are already used to shallow movies with predictable and easy to understand twists, so most people will think that this movie is like that too and will not watch it again.

[–] SherlockVonEinstein 8 years ago

Whenever Simon picks out a therapist and Frank asks, "Why this one?" I had general idea of where the movie was going. You're right, the foreshadowing is way to heavy in this film. Which is a shame because the performances as well as they cinematography are very strong. But like you, I got very bored "waiting for the movie to catch up," as you said.

[–] UHK 8 years ago

I think your possible mistake is; when you figure out the twists earlier than the movie expects, then you believe it must be pure garbage, the foreshadowing is totally bad. But it doesn't have to be like that. I also did the same thing before; but now I see that if you're a good movie buff with some intelligence and experience, pay attention enough, and it's a good day of your senses and perception mechanisms, you sometimes see through decent or even good foreshadowing. The problem is; when you manage to do that it feels week and dull to you like the feeling after a good magic trick explained, then you lose interest and the experience goes down, like you're being told a story you already knew. After that, it's really almost impossible to seperate a week foreshadowing and a good one you happened to crack. Let's say if we deleted your memory of this movie (or hypnosed it out😉) and made you casually watch it again; that time with a little bad luck or slightly less attention to one spesific detail would stop you from solving the puzzle, and you'd be surprised in the end which may cause you to evaluate the movie higher. Probably now you're thinking "Come on, I'd see that coming from miles away again" but you can't know that. Don't forget that there are probably many people who did figure the twists of movies you couldn't and therefore you thought it's good foreshadowing and therefore you liked. Is it because they are geniuses? Probably not.