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The baby being shot was just simply wrong. That was really screwed up.


I mean come on. How can you sit there and laugh at a baby being disintegrated by a shotgun. If you're a father or a mother, I sure hope you didn't laugh at that.

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I DID laugh at that. It was extreme fantasy to preposterous levels. I have also shared paper-thin walls with an apartment neighbor with a screaming kid and I know the feeling when you just can't get to sleep or even get into a movie because you can hear everything going on next door, from screaming kids to barking dogs, a cat in heat, a television too loud or the resonating vocalizations of a fake orgasm.

And don't think for a moment that I, as a loving father, have not had a fantasy of using duct tape on my own children.

One Roll to rule them all,
One Roll to find them,
One Roll to silence them all
and in the darkness bind them

Fantasy.



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LOL duct tape is not even remotely close to shooting them to bits with a shotgun blast.

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Oh dear. I would never shoot MY OWN children with a shotgun. I'd have to clean up the mess.



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it was pretty messed up. especially since I think the mom tossed the baby in the air to protect it, thinking he was about to shoot her and didn't want the baby hit too. then he does the complete opposite she expected and shoots the baby out of the air. I was just happy it was all a dream.

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oh yea one more thing. I bet Frank himself was a crying baby once. Just cause a baby cries doesn't mean it deserves to die. some of the greatest people in the world probably were crying babies. MOST babies cry. Basically Frank is just an egotistical psychopathic *beep*

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Well I think that it was in the beginning to set the tone and let the viewer know what kind of experence he/she is in for the next 90 minutes. If you noticed that was the most extreme part of the whole movie really. I thought the movie was going to play it safe and he was just going to shot the mother then BAM! baby blood everywhere. I thought it was great.

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Shock value for shock values sake... This film sucks. "Oh wow! I can't believe they had the balls to shoot a baby!" Who gives a *beep*

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That film rocked. All the way, or almost.

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Well I think that it was in the beginning to set the tone and let the viewer know what kind of experence he/she is in for the next 90 minutes. If you noticed that was the most extreme part of the whole movie really. I thought the movie was going to play it safe and he was just going to shot the mother then BAM! baby blood everywhere. I thought it was great.


I agree with this other than it was great. I thought it was way over the top and not funny at all. I wasn't offended, just didn't think it was funny.

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The skeet baby was entertaining in its own over the top subversive way.
And though I wouldnt mind driving a car through a pile of those Westboro baptist church followers with their ' GOD HATES GAYS' posters, being a sane person who follows a list of proper societal morals I simply cant be doing such activities. So I experience the actions vicariously through the imagery submitted by the moviemaking community, then I go home and do normal sane things. Watching screwed up stuff wont make a sane person insane, or desensitize them to the carnage reality sometimes tosses your way. A puppet corpse tossed at you in 3D wont make it easier to deal with a real one, with its stink of blood and decay thrown in. Shooting your friends in MEDAL OF HONOR with an XBOX pad in your hand wont make it easier to shoot your co-workers with an AR-15, UNLESS YOUR CRAZY TO BEGIN WITH. You need to start with a weak mind before this stuff can start influencing your behaviour. So shooting a shotgun at a tossed baby is not only 'simply wrong' its absolutely wrong, but a movie showing a dream sequenced skeet baby is merely twisted entertainment. There are those who will take the ball and run with it, demanding the banning of violent movies and video games, effectively stating that
BECAUSE THERE ARE PSYCHOTICS IN THE WORLD WHO MAY EMULATE SOMETHING THEY SAW IN THE MEDIA THE COMMON MAN WHO IS SANE CANNOT BE ENTERTAINED BY THE FANTASIES OF ARTISTS THAT PRODUCE SUCH MEDIA.
Next they will be back to banning the ugly guns with flash suppressors while ignoring the pretty walnut stocked guns with the exact same firepower capabilities, as though the tool is responsible for the action, not the person operating the tool. The reality is, they need to figure out how to identify the mentally ill folk who do the whackjob stuff for real, and either fix them or keep them away from doing harm to the rest of us. The Sandy Hook elementary school is a half hour from me. If you listen to the locals who knew the shooter, you will hear person after person stating that this psycho kid obviously had a screw loose. Somebody should have been working on this guy, instead his mom was teaching him to shoot, and not keeping her weapons secured! Families need to wake up and recognise their childrens potential for violence, and get help. And help needs to be easy to get.

"Pffft, my suspension of disbelief has higher standards than that"

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You are clueless. Most babies cry, but not 24/7. You missed the whole point of this movie.

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Try to next time actually watch the movie. OP.

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Oh no! That mother was using the baby as a meat shield!

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...but the point is moot...they are both fantasy.

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The baby being shot was great. It set the tone for the film right away. If you're offended by that, get out now. If not, that's as bad as the film gets so you can sit back and enjoy the rest. Films that take a while to get to violence or dramatic tonal shifts should usually contain a hint of things to come like this so as to not completely throw the audience, later on.

Secondly, as said, it pushed his fantasies to absurd levels and let you know that Frank is sick and everything he says in the film, whilst not without merit, has to be taken with a degree of salt because he's clearly not mentally right.

Art is a lie that tells the truth.

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It was a fantasy sequence inside a fictional story. Grow up.

I am Jack's IMDb post.

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It was such a cheap and pathetic attempt at the guy trying to protect himself. It also was super over-the-top and pitch black comedy at it's best, I thought.

Overall, I didn't really care for the preachy, ranty nature of the movie.

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Make a better one. Write the script, get the funding, fight the producers on everything, deal with the cast and crew, do the editing, and make a better one.

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"I have a baby!!!"
I laughed my ass off. Funniest scene I've seen in years. She holds the baby up defiantly (after her husband has been killed BTW), and two seconds later she is covered in blood like Carrie on prom night. I had to hit the pause button so I didn't miss what came next. My wife and daughter asked me why he didn't kill the mom.
For the 50% of you who agree with me, I never cry.
For the 50% who think I'm evil, Some Folks Never see Red. Go watch a movie besides "the Notebook". "Sisterhood of the traveling tampons" is on somewhere right now. Mayhap yo0u could tune to "Lifetime Movie Network" and some Meredith Baxter Birney marathon. Go away and leave the rest of us alone.

Frank only did what WE ALL WISH we could do every M-Fing day of the week.
God Bless Frank, and Bobcat.


Son, you can't polish a turd

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I thought it was hilarious. They didn't actually show it happening and the fact that it was some dream he had where they clearly highlighted the hilarity of it all (woman screaming "I HAVE A BABY!" and hiding behind it) just made it more hilarious.

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It should be illegal to have babies in apartment buildings with working people around.If you want to have a baby, buy a stinking house. If you have one you don't want, give it away. Either way, keep the thing from yapping while I'm trying to get my stinking 4 hours of sleep before going back for another 12 hour shift in hell.

That is what that scene is about.Just because you are lucky enough to get sleep every night doesn't mean the rest of us do.

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Right. My point was that there is no sensitivity at all here about shooting a baby with a 12 gauge. I mean, are you that evil? It doesn't matter about the stupid parents who are lazy and stupid. How is that the baby's fault? I'm saying that shooting a baby and laughing at it is just flat out evil, and if you think it's funny, you are no different than Hitler. Just saying. Have a nice life.

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Yeah, I hear Mein Kampf had that one really grim segment where Hitler went into great detail about how he thought that shooting babies was hilarious. I'm pretty sure he was into that.

As if this thread weren't retarded enough, you had to go and Godwin the heck out of it. Having a different taste in comedy to you doesn't make anyone in this thread -- or anywhere else, for that matter -- indistinguishable to the key proponent of a real life fascist regime.

If you can't see that, then you're one of stupidest people literate people I've seen. Just saying. Have a nice life.

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I have a son that age and that scene was awesome. I didn't laugh, though.

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Dream Sequence. I don't think he would have really shot the baby.

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I completely agree with the OP. I'm a parent. I didn't laugh. I hated the scene. Besides being completely wrong and messed up, I didn't feel it fit with the rest of the movie. He kills people who are mean, who make stupid decisions and live their lives without regard to others. A baby doesn't consciously make decisions. Babies cry, it's just what they do because it's their nature. A baby doesn't cry to piss someone off. It makes sense to shoot the parents, it fits with the movie.



"What do you hear?"
"Nothin' but the rain."

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He didn't shoot ANY babies...It was a mindless fantasy, he never intended on killing babies.

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Seriously, you needed it explained to you it was a daydream? And you go on to say his actions in his daydream don't correspond with his actions in real life? Seriously?

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YOU didn't feel the scene fit in with the work of someone else? Well I never!

I'm a parent. I didn't laugh.

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Those of us who weren't deeply affected by this scene of fiction already know that babies don't cry to piss someone off, but thanks for the attempt at enlightening.
WHOOOOSH!


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