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The ending was SO bad!!


It completely changed the characters.

The killer changed his MO when he wanted to torture Casey and not kill her like he killed Leah.
Jordan went out on the field and when she dropped her phone in the dungeon she made the decision to go after the phone instead of going to ask for help in another way?
Casey was this little cute teenager who cried thinking about what was going to happen and at the end of the day she stabbed the killer with a pair of scissors AND then suggested they should leave him there tied up to a chair?
Jordan agrees to the ideas of a 15 year old instead of calling her colleagues at 911 to report that they have the killer?

Also, now they have to lie saying that Jordan found Casey in the woods?
The police are going to want to know where she escaped from and why does Jordan have bruises on her...there's going to be questions. If by any chance someone will find the killer's body strapped to a chair, will no one take the prints from the chair / tape and other things in the room?
such a bad idea, this ending.

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Agreed ! The moment casey said "wait" ruined it for me. Jordan should have called the police then gone down the trap door to try and save casey. If I were casey I'd be paranoid with the possibility that Michael got out from the chair and was after me I wouldn't be able to go on as normal unless I knew he was behind bars.

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For me, the moment Jordan drops the phone into the hole i knew this movie was going to the dogs! Till that point i was praying she would call 911 and when she takes out the phone i was relieved, but then..

And finally the ridiculous revenge in the end.. Ha! Crap ending for a good movie.

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For me, the moment Jordan drops the phone into the hole i knew this movie was going to the dogs! Till that point i was praying she would call 911 and when she takes out the phone i was relieved, but then..

And finally the ridiculous revenge in the end.. Ha! Crap ending for a good movie.


Nothing more to say, I feel the same about this movie.

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I knew that it was going to be awful when the police didn't had someone to study the entire area when they discovered the house, it's all just amateur and cliche... The cops don't act like real cops, the psycho is just a horrible actor and his entire plot of having a sister who died, and suddenly feels like kidnapping girls to get their hair... It's just silly and amateur... And what's with the room? They all get scared about what?! Some little blood in the wall and a girl's room?? What's so scary and dramatic about that *beep* Come on... For me the worst thing about it is the script.

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Absolutely, that's where the movie dtops from 6/10 to 4/10 and even then barely.


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For me it was the moment Jordan came to the house in the woods and there was not even one policeman there. What type of police leaves a potential crucial location unguarded when there's a situation such as this. Really the writers went full retard on the last act of this film.

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I just assumed that Jordan went there faster than the police. hahaha

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Exactly. They could have still done the revenge route and called the police too.

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But they didn't. They left him down there, locked in a room and strapped to a chair to bleed/starve to death.

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The should have turned out the lights too (like in Saw).. that's even more painful to Michael. should have made him suffer.. or they should have cut him a bit like he did to Casey so he can bleed a bit.. what he did to the girl cutting her forehead as scary.

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Im glad they left the lights on. To let him witness his own horrific circumstances.

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The killer changed his MO when he wanted to torture Casey and not kill her like he killed Leah.


Uh, maybe he tortured Leah BEFORE he killed her...?

Jordan went out on the field and when she dropped her phone in the dungeon she made the decision to go after the phone instead of going to ask for help in another way?


What else was she supposed to do? How would she have had any way of contacting the police or anyone else? She needed to get the phone, but she mainly went out there to find the girl. Why else would she have driven all that way? If she only went down to grab the phone after she dropped it, then after she got it, she would have started back up the ladder but she didn't. She proceeded through the tunnel/cellar because her intentions were to find Casey.

Casey was this little cute teenager who cried thinking about what was going to happen and at the end of the day she stabbed the killer with a pair of scissors AND then suggested they should leave him there tied up to a chair?


Okay, and.....? What's wrong with that? Of course she be scared and crying. Anyone would.

Jordan agrees to the ideas of a 15 year old instead of calling her colleagues at 911 to report that they have the killer?


Ehh, so what. It was supposed to be a vigilante-type ending. And that's exactly what it was. But I agree. I would've called the police, too.


Also, now they have to lie saying that Jordan found Casey in the woods?
The police are going to want to know where she escaped from and why does Jordan have bruises on her...there's going to be questions. If by any chance someone will find the killer's body strapped to a chair, will no one take the prints from the chair / tape and other things in the room?


Who knows? All that could have just been a line they made up to tell the Killer.






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1. Responding to: Uh, maybe he tortured Leah BEFORE he killed her...?

- He didn't torture Leah, he killed her in her home.

2. Responding to: What else was she supposed to do? How would she have had any way of contacting the police or anyone else?

- Jordan's intentions were not to find Casey by herself, what is she, insane?
Would you, the 911 operator, go on the field to solve crimes and fight serial killers? Jordan was investigating the killer's ranch because she heard that noise on tape and wanted to know if there was more about the case. There was no intention to find Casey all by herself. She even tried to contact the police when she discovered the dungeon and dropped the phone, she didn't want to face the killer all alone. That's what I was saying, that she could have taken the phone and get back up the ladder and call the police, OR even, get the ladder out and then run to the car and find some help on the road.

3. Responding to: Okay, and.....? What's wrong with that? Of course she be scared and crying. Anyone would.

- I was saying that Casey at first was a crying girl and by the time Jordan gets to her she becomes like this little criminal mastermind. I mean, in the morning when she is kidnapped she is all crying and scared and in the evening when she is above the dungeon she is the one that suggests that they should leave him there. There is a big difference between who she is in the morning and who she is in the evening.

4. Responding to: Ehh, so what. It was supposed to be a vigilante-type ending. And that's exactly what it was. But I agree. I would've called the police, too.

- If you really want to make a point-by-point answer, don't say "Ehh, so what."

5. Responding to: Who knows? All that could have just been a line they made up to tell the Killer.

- Really?

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He didn't torture Leah, he killed her in her home.


How do you know he actually killed her? He could've just beat her till she was unconscious, THEN taken her back to his hideout.

Jordan's intentions were not to find Casey by herself, what is she, insane?
Would you, the 911 operator, go on the field to solve crimes and fight serial killers? Jordan was investigating the killer's ranch because she heard that noise on tape and wanted to know if there was more about the case. There was no intention to find Casey all by herself. She even tried to contact the police when she discovered the dungeon and dropped the phone, she didn't want to face the killer all alone. That's what I was saying, that she could have taken the phone and get back up the ladder and call the police, OR even, get the ladder out and then run to the car and find some help on the road.


Personally, no, I wouldn't. I admit that isn't very likely to happen. I certainly wouldn't have gone out there with no gun, tazer, pepperspray, etc. like Jordan did.

She may not have wanted to, but clearly she chose to. Which is why she proceeded down the tunnel/cellar to find the girl. I get what you're saying, though.

I was saying that Casey at first was a crying girl and by the time Jordan gets to her she becomes like this little criminal mastermind. I mean, in the morning when she is kidnapped she is all crying and scared and in the evening when she is above the dungeon she is the one that suggests that they should leave him there. There is a big difference between who she is in the morning and who she is in the evening.


I wouldn't go as far as to say "criminal mastermind". When she was in the trunk of the car, she couldn't really do anything to defend herself. Look at who she was up against. She couldn't have fought him and won, but when she was in the cellar, she had lot's of sharp tools and objects to use to her advantage. She stabbed him twice at her and Jordan's defense but both times, she got him when he wasn't looking.

If you really want to make a point-by-point answer, don't say "Ehh, so what."


My point (and fact) WAS made. The movie had a vigilantly-type ending. That's why it ended the way it ended.

Really?


Possibly.





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There's nothing like a good old fashioned revenge flick. Remember the old Charles Bronson films when the punk gets his due and you say "hell yeah!"

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Lol

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I totally agree we absolutely LOVED the ending. Rot you mother-f!@#$%%^

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The film ceased to make any sense as soon as Jordan left the 911 Office and started sleuthing on her own.

Jordan was investigating the killer's ranch because she heard that noise on tape and wanted to know if there was more about the case. There was no intention to find Casey all by herself.'....

The point is that it was stupid for Jordan to go there in the first place. It was clear that the killer was highly dangerous. He had abducted and killed several young girls. In the film he even killed two more people because they suspected him - the limousine driver and the gas station guy. I don't think you can justify her actions by saying that she wanted to start the investigation and then call the police - in real life, you can’t separate the two so neatly. When she went to the killer's ranch, there were two possible outcomes. She might find nothing, in which case her effort was just wasted. But if she found anything at all, then her life would be in great danger - this was a certainty. So in that situation, would an ordinary woman go there by herself without any weapon to defend herself? She was acting like Clarice Starling, but the latter was a trained FBI agent and she had a gun. Even Starling looked suitably tense and frightened - which the 911 operator did not.

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The point is that it was stupid for Jordan to go there in the first place. It was clear that the killer was highly dangerous.


Exactly but her putting herself in such a dangerous position is what made it scary.

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So you're saying you don't care how anything happens as long as it makes you feel scared, like you wanted to feel?

The sad thing is, that explains most horror movies.

This was a clever, tense, realistic, dramatic flick until it turned into any ol trash with the ending that tore down all the goodwill they built up. If the whole movie was like the ending, she would've jumped into her car with her headset on and tried to track the girl down herself from the beginning.

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No, what I'm saying is, the fact that she went out on HER OWN and did what she did, was scary. Sure it's not incredibly likely that it would play out like that if this were to happen in real life, but so what? It isn't really 'impossible' either. It could easily be looked at as just a stupid, stupid decision on Jordan's part (which it was) to go out and do what she did, with no weapon or anything. Can't you just enjoy the movie for what it is? What would you have rather happened?

People act like they had NO clue that she was going going to do what she did, when the trailers, TV spots and any synopsis given about this movie, tell/show that that's what she was going to do. It was PART OF THE PLOT. The movie is ABOUT a girl who is kidnapped and a 911 operator who will TAKES IT UPON HERSELF TO FIND HER.


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Just a note regarding the "torture"...the serial killer was scalping the girls, Leah included...He wasn't trying to torture Casey, he was removing her hair with the scalp...He was trying to reproduce his sister's hair who died of cancer as can be seen in the photo album.

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What is it with Americans & *beep* endings? Do you guys actually eat this crap up or what? Because we get out of movies like this and go.. "Why the hell did they have to go and do that?". It completely destroyed an already average film.. Let your crappy movies die (finish) with some integrity hollywood numbskulls! I just can't help but wonder if they sit around in a group going "hmmm I think this would be a cool ending and then everyone else chimes in ohh yeah that'll get em! that's what ppl want to see!!" cos we don't!! At least not in Australia! :-)

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You might want to use the term term Californians and not Americans. That is where audiences screen these films. I wouldn't be surprised if this was not the directors original ending, and it was changed after screenings of the film. It does not fit in with the rest of the movie. She definitely should have grabbed her phone, climbed up the ladder, and called the police. She could have went back down if she thought the girl was in eminent danger, at least the police would be on their way. As for the very end, I agree it was stupid and unrealistic.

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you do know that not all americans were a part of the making of that movie right?

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What is it with Australians and stupid crocodile movies? How many of those do you guys have to make? We get it, you guys have a lot of crocodiles there.

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Just because we're American, doesn't mean we're responsible for what the American movie industry does with their films. We are simply posters on a forum and in no way are we affiliated with Hollywood.

If you have a problem, I'd suggest you contact Hollywood or the directors, themselves.

Have a nice day!

Btw, other film industries put (including yours) have released some mediocre to bad films, as well. It happens.


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This. Totally agree. No torture. As Michael says, hair needs blood pumping into the scalp to remain good.

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He didn't kill Leah in her home. He kidnapped her.

If you recall later in the film he says that "hair needs a fresh supply of blood" or something to that effect. So he would not have killed her there, but kidnapped, scalped and then killed her.

It was the hair he was after, not the girls.



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Horrible ending. Are they leaving this open for a part 2 or something? It just makes no sense.

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Uhh... how does it not make sense? They left him down in the cellar, in a locked room, strapped to a chair to bleed and starve to death

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It's his room in his dungeon. The girl escaped her bonds, the guy couldn't? And then find a way out?

Of course, he isn't, because I don't think this is the kind of movie where they're going to trot out a sequel...at least not with the original antagonist.

The change of characters at the end was very startling, and seemed a way to get some vindication from the audience, not the characters. It really made little sense. Neither one came across as vigilante, cold blooded personalities prior. Fighters, yes. Not stone cold executioners.

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Actually, she was. Her hands where tied down with duck tape, or something that looked similar to it.

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Jordan cut the straps on her. They chained the guy to the chair.

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True, but I think he was definitely doing something else with them in that creepy/bloody room.

Leah's scalp/hair was the one with the blue streaks that he threw in the fridge after he got mad at "it", so I think he definitely had her down there, most likely alive.

I felt very let-down by the ending. I wanted some intense revenge scene. I guess bleeding/starving to death is an acceptable punishment, but, as viewers, we don't get much satisfaction from that.

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1. He didn't plan on killing Leah then and there. Jordan interrupted his plan. With the other girls, he followed the MO.

2. Jordan was afraid that if she waited for backup, Michael would have killed Casey. She wanted to stop him before he did. She was acting more emotionally than logically.

3. Casey was frightened, confused and desperate in the beginning. Towards the end, she was able to process what was going on, think more rationally and her fright turned into anger. Oh, and she fought in the lair she had an opportunity, because for some strange reason, she decided she would rather be a bitchy survivor than a meek little victim.

4. Jordan was acting emotionally, not as a by-the-book 911 responder. Because she's a human being. She had listened to another girl die at the hands of this monster, and neither she nor Casey felt any need to show any compassion to a killer who kills (and would continue to kill) without an ounce of remorse for the girls he takes.

5. Some interpret that they just told the killer that they would leave him down there, so he could get a taste of his own medicine -- being confined to a small space knowing he was going to die. They might call the police eventually.

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1. You don't actually know that. It's never established. For all anyone knows, he just beat the living *beep* out of her in her home, tortured her and killed her elsewhere. Because he tortures Casey, we are left to assume that he's done the same with all previous victims.

2. Yes. She wanted to see if there was more to the case. And that is exactly what she did by looking through the dungeon (I guess, I'm not 100% certain. People are saying she heard Casey crying and went to investigate, I don't *beep* ing know). She STILL should've called the cops, but think about it; how long will it take for the police to get there? If Casey's down there, will she still be alive by the time they arrive? So, hey, why not take drastic, partially-thought-out action? On that note, she still should've called the cops in case she runs into Michael and is brutally murdered, but like I said, partially thought out.

3. First off, "crying girl". I have no words for how stupid that sentence is. That's nowhere near describing the character's personality. EVERYONE would cry/panic in a traumatic experience. By the end, she stabs her captor first chance she gets (wouldn't you?). Stabbing someone is not an out-of-character action.

4. Wow, couldn't even make an argument to that one, could you? Your thought process was probably "oh gee, he's got me, um, um, um, DON'T USE "EHH SO WHAT" IN AN ARGUMENT, HAHAHA, PWNT"

5. What was it that you said? "If you really want to make a point-by-point answer, don't say "Ehh, so what.""? Using "Really?" is pretty much the same. Hypocrite.

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He didn't kill her in her home. Didn't it show flashes of when he had her tied to the chair? Before they found the body. He didn't exactly torture her, but he did the same thing with Leah as he did with Casey, washed the hair and everything preparing for the scalping.

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I think he tortured Leah first. You can see that Michael was holding Leah's hair with the scalp, and as she was trying to cut Casey's hair he said that the hair needs a healthy blood flowing. He couldn't have done that to Leah if he already killed her at her home.

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Uh, maybe he tortured Leah BEFORE he killed her...?


Indeed he did, he did that to all the girls, and he didnt "torutre the girls in that sense, he wanted their hair because it reminded him of his sister.

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The ending was atrocious! It made no sense.

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Uhh... how does it not make sense? They left him down in the cellar, in a locked room, strapped to a chair to bleed and starve to death



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"The film ceased to make any sense as soon as Jordan left the 911 Office and started sleuthing on her own."

this is where the movie jumped the ship for me too to a generic heroine saves the victim scenario... i didn't expect the movie to end that badly though.

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actually, if you guys followed the last few scenes of the movie, you would see that Jordan actually wound up in that situation... more or less because of circumstances.

1. she got obsessed with the kidnapper because of the earlier connection, and you could see her obsession when she played back that track endlessly. her disappointment mounted (along with her obsession) when the police officers found the black lincoln with no sign of Casey. this was her escalation to outfield "sleuthing". in her mind, Jordan was probably thinking, if i don't do anything about this, i will never be able to work as a 911 call operator again. to me, that is pretty strong motivation, and given the extenuating circumstances, rather plausible.

2. she went to the red house alone as it was obviously against the rules. if she called her cop boyfriend, she would either get him into trouble or get talked out of it. besides, she was probably just hoping to find more clues.

3. by pure luck (only in movies), she recognises the clinking sound and ends up finding the trap door. she did not intend to go in alone -- she took her phone out and was about to dial it. but since she dropped the phone down the dungeon (quite a tough phone eh), she either had to leave there and then (which would mean a long delay, could be fatal for the victim) or she could go in and at least pick up the phone.

4. so she picks up the phone; taking the risk of entering the dungeon. unfortunately, phone loses signal in the dungeon, and the delay gave her some time to poke around the dungeon; a further risk. the motivation here was simply that she's already in there.

5. she looks around carefully, probably not yet fully realising the amount of danger she is in / getting herself into. on the one hand, Jordan's unarmed presence might prove to be of no advantage in the situation -- trapped underground with no backup in a violent murderous kidnapper's lair -- yet, if Casey WAS being held there, and if she WAS still alive, Jordan is suddenly Casey's best chance of survival. the convenient movie-timing of these two scenes: the perp's thrilling near-miss expository scene, and the imminent scalping/death of Casey, make it such that if Jordan had NOT been there, Casey would be dead. in an ex post facto manner, Jordan's crazy heroics turned out to be Casey's salvation.

6. during the climactic scuffle, Casey stabs the perp. how is this unimaginable? she finally gets a chance to hit back after all the trauma he's inflicted on her... plus she was trying to save Jordan after all. if anything, i was surprised she didn't stab him in the eye! i find Casey's "transformation" here totally believable. real-life victims have turned far more violent against their captors.

7. after finally overpowering the evil killer and kicking him down the dungeon, we have the infamous "wait" scene. doubtlessly, the harsh vigilante-style comeuppance is morally questionable; even foolhardy in the potential risks. regardless, we have i) an obsessed operator-turned-circumstantial hero high on adrenalin and hatred from the first incident, and ii) a traumatised victim-turned-vengeful badass also high on adrenalin and hatred. given the circumstances, they only merely tied him down and locked him in, without personally hurting him a bit more... i'd say it's still within the realms of possibility. like others have said, it's not a perfect plan, and Jordan will have a lot to answer for, but it's not THAT bad an ending. for an empowering-the-women type movie, at least they didn't castrate the perp? :)

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Regarding your #3..the 1st time we(my son and I) heard her play that recording again i said aloud "Thats a flag pole. Its the sound you hear every single day at school." and he said "Yep, sure is."

This didnt take a genius. My son is only 13 lol.

Also I thought the ending was good..I personally would have killed him. He deserved it. I wouldnt have tortured him but definitely would have killed him.

Otherwise I do like how you explain more than the people saying just call the police crap--why so he gets off on a technicality? Happens every day. Maybe Jordan just going there could have violated some right of his and he would have been set free. Again I would have killed him...told Casey to stay up there, climb down there and kill him. THEN maybe call the police or just walk away.


Too many people get off on little things and get away. This man deserved to die. You kill someone , many girls from the looks of the scalps in that fridge was it? He needed to die not sit around years in court.

Why? He was guilty, he did it, kill him.

I do not care about his mental stability-which would have been used in his defense, nor any trauma he endured as a child. He kidnapped and killed girls, kill him. End of story.

Oh and anyone can respond to this any way you wish, I wont be back because I do not argue on message boards. This is my opinion.


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Did he sleep with Kevin?

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Totally agree, when she decided to go get the girl herself (WHY?? there are about 300 cops at the killers house, phone them, you're a 911 call centre expert)and didnt tell anyone, not even her cop boyfriend where she was going that is the end of the movie, just walk out the cinema, or eject the dvd and through it on the fire or in the microwave or use it as a mirror for pulling hairs out your ass..

..she then took forever putting all the clues together, becomes a clumsy beeach dropping her phone.. "forfksake", I couldnt believe it was going down this well trodden path. Surely someone making this movie had read the end of the script and thought 'OMG not this sh*t again?? seriously??', she eventually hits the guy, he falls over and she turns her back on him!! because they never get back up again do they?? it goes on...and on until the last scene..bloody hell .. terrible so terrible..worse than the bachelorette.

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Agreed... I actually liked the whole 911 operator on the line and being trapped in a trunk while the clock is running out trying to find her with a trail of clues. When she left "the Hive" and went out at to his place at night alone and with no weapon it became ridiculous, like a "Silence of the Lambs" wanna-be. I would rate it a 7/10 if not for the ending, so 6/10 it was.

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I think all of your criticisms completely miss the point, here's why:

(A) The killer didn't try to torture Casey, he tried to scalp her, just like he scalped Leah - we saw Leah's scalp on the mannequin head.

(B) Jordan did the things she did because she let herself get emotionally invested. That was the point of the scene with the new recruits when she told them "the most important thing about this job is: stay emotionally detached." She broke that rule, so she started breaking other rules like going out into the field and ultimately vigilante justice.

(C) Casey was all about character development. That was the entire point of showing her as such a meek goody-two-shoes and then all that stuff about capricorns are fighters and then how she freed herself from the chair to spray him in the face, etc. The entire movie was a setup for her to go from that little mouse of a character to a hardass because of her experience. It certainly was not an abrupt switch, the director showed us each step along the way.

(D) As for the details of bruises and what if they do one day find the killer in his secret underground lair, etc. Who says their plan has to be perfect? Maybe they do get busted, who knows? But they MIGHT get away with it and that's good enough for a movie like this.

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They just tied the man up to sort of teach him a lesson and to quote the line "It's already done" or something like that. After that, they did called the police but it wasn't shown in the movie. Happy now?

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agreed had it at 7 until the ending Gave it a 6 with that ridiculous 5 mins of hollywood gore

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The psycho serial killer escaping would be even more illogical and unrealistic. This guy wasn't a mastermind genius. Don't give him too much credit. He's just physically strong and meticulous when he's not under pressure.

Also, empty threats would be something done for someone who destroyed your property in a fit of rage. Not for murderers and someone who has tortured and traumatized you. If they had threatened him and then the police actually came, he would have the last laugh, just like how he laughed and mocked the girls when he realized Jordan was an operator who would have to follow protocol and leave him to the police.

However that's the ending you'd prefer, and there's nothing wrong with that. I personally wish they had burned him in there. Unfortunately it would burn the evidence of the other victims who are possibly still considered missing. Still, it's better than him going through the court system, pleading insanity and in some cozy mental health center or in solitary confinement in a protected, cozy cell.

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I agree with this, I thought the same thing. He could be on death row or in prison for life and Casey would have to go through a trial, etc. I had been wishing they killed him and then called and reported it, so at least his sick dungeon could have been explored for evidence of other unknown victims, like you said.


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He did the same with Leah. But her hair were bad. So he kidnapped Casey.

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No, I think the ending is brilliant.
The tables have been turned and the killer gets what he deserves.
Plus, there's a possibility he escaped and there could be a sequel.
I love it!

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All these cops with all their devices were not able to discover there were rooms underground ? Not very good CSI work eh ?

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