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People do not understand this movie or do not want to understand it.

posted 8 years ago by danuas
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I will give it 6/10. Why?
Well its not for the acting, not the effects, well not even for the story!
Lets first define that is was a low budget movie, 13 mil dollars is not much for a movie now a days. It also took them 10 years to raise the movie so obviously its been difficult.

It is incredible that there has been no movie made from this event which is maybe the most important historical event in the history of Europe, maybe even christianity.
Why? We have seen movies about the crusades (Kingdom of Heaven and the knight templar). But in the end they are all subject to political correctness. I fact these very films I just mention is filled with it. Stamping on Christianity, nationalism, Europe while glorifying the amazing peacefull muslims (trust me I dont defend the crusades, who does!)
If we were to make a high budget film of the Battle of Vienna I know the outcome and it makes me vomit.

So this is why the film is so great. It actually protrays a more "accurate" setting and finally glorify christianity just a little bit! For once a film in this category and time setting is free from political correctness and "halal-hornyness"
No! its a 7/10!

Now this movie has some pointers I found with my "mindset". These are just ideas and I cant base it on much.

1. The movie has a point with the islamification of Europe. The immigration, high birth rates and slow but progressive transformation of the christian-european values into islamic ones (such as halal meat in schools and institutions, ban of christmas decorations, end of christmas carrols in schools and much more)

2. The movie mentioned, raids in h´Hungary. Are these the rape, crime, violence and terrorist attacks we see in western europe?

3. The Holy Roman emperor (Germany and Austria) weak and passive attitude towards the on coming threat. Symbols of the German domination of the EU (and frau Merkel) who refuses to stand up and defend Europe.

4. Poland. The country that all the other western Euro countries hate for their unwillingness to submit to the EU monster. And yet, the country that actually saved us all. Now going to 2015 and the millions of unthankfull, violent and islamic migrants currently walking through our defensless borders (with no thanks to Germany and Austria!) there is one country who really shows backbone. Oh yes! Poland. Recently during Polands national holiday there was a demonstration against islamic migrants in Europe. Some estimates say there was 200,000 protesters! In most western countries a similar protest is HUGE if it can muster maybe 500!
Will Poland save Europe again? Only time will tell.

5. and this is the last one (I promise to expand if I remember more pointers). The deaf woman. Is she the symbol of the weak minded and "ethnic" horny western women? Who despite being rejected and mistreated multiple times by their muslim......"lover?" STILL remain loyal and submissive despite the usless situation their live in?

Wauw....this last one I was actually in doubt with and I even laughed at myself but maybe this was the best point of them all.

Please! Join the discussion. Share ideas and thoughts. And yes, im a nationalist, christian and conservative. I love it and ill never change. Call me a racist and I wont give a damn (and nor will I respond), I heard that too many times.

PS Yes they were turks, but that doesnt really matter. Its about islam, besides The Ottoman Empire had arabs in their army aswell.

[–] Madmax56 8 years ago

There was actually supposed to be a high budget Polish film called "Victoria" back in 2007/2008, but never materialized. I wonder why - political correctness?

[–] guerhan-arslan 8 years ago

How about you guys focus on the Native Americans first? How they got slaughtered by Europe. Or what about Africa? What about South America? What about Australia? What about Asia?

Holy *beep* So many slaughters done by Europeans? Damn. So you guys have enough stories to focus on before pretending to be victims victims.

Btw are you a racist Nazi?

[–] babbalonian 8 years ago

Funniest post in the history of IMDB and that takes some doing!!

1st: 'Native Americans' invaded from the Siberian steppes and killed everyone they found. So much so that the campesinos in Mexico had to go to the border to stop the raping/violence of the Apaches. The Indians lost a war. Tough.

2nd: Egypt and the rest of North Africa are black formerly Christian countries invaded, raped and pillaged by the Arabs. Europeans did nothing in Africa the Muslim didn't do first.

3rd: The Myans used to play football with shrunken heads and would sacrifice the winning team! No tears for them.

4th: Australia was virtually empty but yeah not Europeans finest hour but historically speaking so what? Talk to any hindu and the muslims have a holocaust of over 80 million in India alone. That's before you factor in that Afghanistan and Indonesia were Buddhist countries before the muslim genocide there.

Add the Barbary Slave Trade (over a million whites kidnapped into slavery) and that muslims were the first to sell blacks as slaves.
Also in Mauritania (Africa) there are over 500,00 slaves held by muslim captors right feckin now!!

Ever heard of the Ottoman Empire? If not go ask someone in the Balkans, Hungary, Armenia, Austria about them... also the 2000 sex slaves a year the Moors stole in Spain and the raping perpetrated in Sicily/Italy.

Nice try at White Guilt but white people owe no-one anywhere anything... least of all people who worship a pedophile warlord and whose ideology bring a rape culture wherever they go in the world.

You should have paid more attention in school before preaching that b.s around intelligent people

Cultural Marxism and feminism are like niqab for the brain.

[–] WestGreat 8 years ago

Good post, babbalonian!

I always find the hypocrisy of nonwhites astounding. They're the ones with movies making them look like the 'poor victims' and whites as 'evil' yet they never make movies about what nonwhites/Jews/Muslims did to us, and they accuse US of playing the victim? Give me a break.

The other races want whites to feel bad because they depend upon our wealth, technology and sympathy to keep them afloat.

[–] WestGreat 8 years ago

"""How about you guys focus on the Native Americans first? How they got slaughtered by Europe. Or what about Africa? What about South America? What about Australia? What about Asia?

Holy *beep* So many slaughters done by Europeans? Damn. So you guys have enough stories to focus on before pretending to be victims victims.

Btw are you a racist Nazi?"""

LOL! If that isn't the most hypocritical BS I've ever heard. Nonwhites, especially blacks and Jews, are always whining and playing the victim. You're always making movies demonizing whites without telling the Europeans' side of the story and if ONE pro-white movie is made, you flip out.

Why don't we talk about the 100 million Slavic people killed by Jewish communists in the former Soviet Union? What about the French that the Haitians (blacks) slaughtered on their island in 1804? What about the whites (including women and children) that Indians had kidnapped, raped, tortured, killed, etc? Jews have been kicked out 109 times, but Jewish-ran Hollywood won't mention that. No, they talk about 'evil Germans' but not what they did to the Germans that lead up to their 'holocaust'

Speaking of slavery, it was blacks who sold blacks and the ships were mostly owned by Jews. It was North Africans who raided up and down the coast of Europe, kidnapped millions of whites and sold them to slavery.

It was nonwhites (Muslims, Mongols, Persians, etc) who first invaded Europe and waged war on our people, centuries before 'colonialism' The even more ironic thing is you're using white-created technology to voice your hatred of whites.

[–] guerhan-arslan 8 years ago

LOL what a Nazi douchebag you are.

Dude, just look at the present time! Which countries are invading others? Who started more than a dozen wars in the last 50 years? You keep lying to yourself! Look at the USA. Look at France. Look at Great Britain. These are the worlds most barbaric war countries. And the rest (EU, Canada, Australia) are silently following.
You all are only rich because you keep destroying and exploiting others!
Now shut up.

[–] WestGreat 8 years ago

"""LOL what a Nazi douchebag you are.

Dude, just look at the present time! Which countries are invading others? Who started more than a dozen wars in the last 50 years? You keep lying to yourself! Look at the USA. Look at France. Look at Great Britain. These are the worlds most barbaric war countries. And the rest (EU, Canada, Australia) are silently following.
You all are only rich because you keep destroying and exploiting others!
Now shut up."""

You'd think I'd learn by now not to debate black and brown 'people' They simply have a low IQ and do not have the biological ability to understand us whites.

Please, tell me how ALL of Europe got 'rich at the expense of others' when you've only listed France and Great Britain or USA? Sweden, Norway, Finland, Poland, Bulgaria, Hungary, Ireland, Scotland, Serbia, Ukraine were NOT imperial powers? What did the Muslims invading Europe 100s of years ago have anything to do with the past 50 years? We aren't talking about the present time. We're talking about long, long ago.

[–] guerhan-arslan 8 years ago

LOL at thinking Hungary, Ireland, Scotland, SERBIA were rich countries. Read non-whie books. And btw, I'm not black or brown. What the *beep* is brown anyway? Do you even know that Arabs are caucasian?

[–] berzelmayr 8 years ago

The movie makes it look like as if the relief army would have only consisted of Poles and that is total BS. The Italian director has already shown his anti-German bias with his ridiculous Barbarossa-movie, so there is a clear pattern. Only idiots would "educate" themselves about this era by watching that amateurish movie.

[–] jeroenportegijs 7 years ago

So your basically saying you only like this movie cause its anti-muslim propaganda?

1. Not gonna validate this point with a response.

2. As far as rape violence and mass murder goes Europeans were not shy of that either. And were more then keen on doing that to each other.

3. The holy Roman Empire was weakened and divided by 30 years of war and easy prey.

4. Yes poland came to the aid of Austria but they were not alone. There were troops from Swabia, Saxony, Bavaria, Baden and Franconia. If we are to believe the film all but the polish fled the battle.

5. What point are you trying to make with this exactly? Your grammar sucks so bad I don't get it.

6. My own point which people like you will probably never understand. Religion or Ideology (for instance Communism) are never the Reason of war merely a Justification and a banner to rally behind. Wars are fought for two things Power and money.