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What the heck was going on?


Ok - people will say this movie was not about the war - it was about some weird sexual relationship involving cousins...
I don't care.
I spent the whole time trying to work out why there was a war and who was fighting whom. It looked like there was some type of insurrection spreading across Europe, but it didn't seem like an invasion by a foreign nation.
It seemed more like some form of civil insurrection with terrorism - but they must have been:
1. very well organised - they managed to engage a national army
2. well supported/financed - they managed to get hold of a nuclear bomb
3 well armed - they took over safe zones and they referred to multiple units surrounding the farm.
If they had wanted to focus on the relationship they should have answered those questions and moved on - instead they just left me hanging wondering what the hell?
Oh, and although the crazy thoughts dialogue was very reminiscent of The Host it was annoying in that very average movie too.

"They who... give up... liberty to obtain... safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

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I agree. For the majority of the movie I was trying to figure out who the "terrorists" were.
I came to the conclusion that the men in black were insurgents mixed with a few British, who had some kind of beef with the British government. Possibly religious, but never the less I feel like they were radicals for regime change.

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You weren't supposed to understand. The war was seen only though the eyes of Daisy as she experienced it.
I read a headline saying the movie was "an authentic depiction of society on the brink."
No. It wasn't. Not even close. I would have LOVED to see an authentic depiction of society on the brink. But it wasn't about that. It was about a self-absorbed teenager without interest in anything but herself falling in teenage puppy love while "the society on the brink" played out as an annoyance to get past as she tries to recapture that love. It may be enough for some audiences, but because director Kevin MacDonald wanted the themes to stay focused on Daisy, those larger questions can't be answered.
Granted, Daisy was an interesting character and I'm a HUGE fan of Saoirse Ronan who carried the film beautifully. Overall I liked the movie. But it came up short in that one important aspect.

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Good one! I used 100 words to say it, see my post below. :)

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Yep, exactly what I kept thinking.
Lots of unexplained plots points.
May I add.

1, What was the mother's involvement?
2. What was the graph on the computer all about?
3. After the nuclear blast why didn't Daisy check the graph on the computer?
4. Why not give some explanation for the cause of the war in the first place.
5. What the hell was the point of showing a sex scene with under 15yr olds. Made me cringe.

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graphs: the big world makes not sense, don't try to watch your gov't.
cause of the war: people are crazy, no sense for reason in society.
sex scene: you need to grow up soon enough to resist the madness!! and if they both are under 18 and close to 18, is it not legal? just asking. or you just arrest both of them, each one for raping the other?

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I am a liberated heathen, so I have no problem with sex on screen. It just seemed unnecessary to me.

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Daisy couldn't check the graph on the computer because after the nuclear blast the electricity went out.
The sex scenes didn't involve under age of 15, as Daisy was 17 and Eddie was older.
Isaac was 14, but he was not involved in a sex scene.

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You need lessons on how to watch a movie and what to care about. You might be Autistic.

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5. What the hell was the point of showing a sex scene with under 15yr olds. Made me cringe.


Where did you get that these kids were under 15? Daisy was at least 16.

The rest of the questions were unimportant.

Any time will do, my love
Any time will do, the choicest words will take me back to you...

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>>Oh, and although the crazy thoughts dialogue was very reminiscent of The Host it was annoying in that very average movie too.

I thought of it too and it reminded me of the The Host, but more like "The Host: Hardcore!"


2013: Ain't Them Bodies Saints, Her, Short Term 12, Only Lovers Left Alive

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It was the Irish, they had enough of British occupying their lands, so they joined forces with the Scots and they were both financially backed and supplied by the French. As for the nuclear device, they had infiltrators in the military who obtained it.

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Population control, round up and divide the women and men, force them into slavery cropping for veggies, exterminate the men by bagging their heads and suffocating them to death. Along the way resistance rose up.

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Just blame the French, it's easier.



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I agree. The idea that UK is invaded on land before mainland Europe is amazing, especially as it has a strong navy and air force. Throughout the movie, it is clear that the gov't controlled the air space and the seas, since it was over in less than two months or so. The alternative would be if they really cut out social assistance to poor immigrants to such a scale that they would be eager to take a chance and attack one of top 5 economies in the world (I believe). Still, they would never be able to terrorize the north, 500 km away (the girls walked 3 weeks, or what?), especially with no air space control at all. Imagine that US would also intervene immediately. In fact, the whole plot is completely isolated from the rest of the world, and the only message I can see in this movie is: disregard civil society which is the base of our democracy and stick with your close family whatever happens. We are under siege! Boo!!! Be irrational (life does not make sense), be xenophobe, don't question your government or society. It may be a good advice 3 years from now, but I hope it won't. :)

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The kids make reference to both "terrorists" and "fascists", so the way I read it is that there is some sort of upsurge in terrorist activity in Europe, prompting the UK government to invoke a military government (which Isaac calls fascist - he refers to the swimming trip as the last time to have fun before the fascists take over), which in turn results in some sort of civil war within the UK. We don't know how many years in the future this is, but it could be set at a time when a significantly higher percent of the EU's population is Muslim and ready to invoke Sharia law. The idea of any terrorist group staging a full-scale land invasion of the UK is highly unlikely, and the terrorists wouldn't have honored a cease-fire, so a civil conflict like the one in Syria is the most likely scenario. One loose end remains though - neither anti-fascist partisans nor the British Army would have had a reason to kill everyone at Isaac's military camp and then bag them.

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When Isaac refers to the swimming trip as "the last time to have fun before the fascists take over" he is joking about the woman that was supposed to come watch them and make them eat vegetables not an actual enemy. Only terrorist are mentioned as an enemy. Also England was not attacked first nor did the war start there. When Daisy gets to the airport in the beginning the news is on a TV and it is talking about a bombing in France.

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Oh, the idea of some Muslim sponsored terrorist attack in the UK is unlikely? And why? They've already showed their capabilities all over the world.
In fact, that's the only feasible solution to the riddle: "Who?". It's something that just can't be said openly, you know, the "correctness" thing.

-jump!
[evh]

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The fact that "fascists" are mentioned specifically makes me think it's actually radical groups in Europe reacting to the increase in immigrant population, like an army of Anders Breivik.

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