Christ, this bored me to tears


This isn't centered around a pair of traveling salesmen, this isn't centered around anything, it's all over the place, the random cuts make no sense, it's not coherent, it's not consistent, it's just pretentious. It's like the director just wanted to cram as many ideas as he possibly could. I mean, when it was finished, I had absolutely no idea what the hell I was watching, and I honestly believed this was the work of some film student hipster douche who'd just give himself the liberty of making stuff up on the fly and then call it artsy and whatnot. Kind of hard to believe this is one of Sweden's elite directors. Shows how little we know of foreign cultures, I guess

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This is the same thing every stupid person says when they don't get something from a movie. The number one trait of dumb people is they don't know how dumb they are, they blame others for everything. no offense

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This film is a joke and so is anyone who defends it.

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One of the best movies of 2014. Roy Andersson is one of the best director nowadays, and this is not just my opinion, but he is not easy for the crowd.

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That sentence is a from the masterclass of ignorance

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You're a joke and a troll.

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You're the kind of person who walks into a modern art museum and stares at an exhibit called 'ethereal canvas' for 15 minutes pondering what it could possibly mean, when it's literally just a blank canvas.

Films like these are for pseudo-intellectuals who relish looking down on other who seemingly don't "get" it. Too bad there's nothing to get. It's a meaningless film.

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Pointless metaphor, there are no blank canvases in museums.
I guess you're the sort of person who goes into a modern art museum, sees an exhibit called 'ethereal canvas', doesn't spend 15 minutes contemplating it, and comes away thinking it was a blank canvas.
But I know where the blank canvas really is...

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I wish I could upvote vadllens01's comment.

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I totally agree.

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You poor bastard.

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I would have to pretty strongly disagree with you on that one.

First off, Roy Andersson brings more out through the production design on his films than any other filmmaker I've ever seen. The attention to detail is so insanely specific it's extraordinary. Look even at the opening scene - every piece in the museum visible is related somehow to birds - the stuffed birds themselves in cases in the main room, of course, but through the open door on the right, the bones of the T-Rex, scientifically considered an evolutionary ancestor of the modern day bird. And even through the very slight sliver of the door on the left of the frame, there lies, just enough to be distinguishable if you look for it, is the painting of a bird.

The film is equally a compositional masterpiece. Then why not make it a painting?

Because then you would lose the careful balance of searing comedy, unrelenting pathos, and existential despair. Often all three at once.

I would agree that it is all over the place. I would disagree that it doesn't have a center, or that being all over the place is detrimental rather than the point in and of itself. But most of all I would disagree that this was just something thrown together and made up on the fly. I would contend that this, and all of Roy Andersson's 21st century works, are among the most meticulously thought out works in contemporary cinema. He isn't trying to tell a specific narrative, or hammer you over the head with one very streamlined point. I take it instead to be an exploration of the myriad experiences that make up a life told through tableau vignettes heavily inspired by theater of the absurd to bring the concerns, conceptions, worries all to the fore. Not least of which is the sense of isolation of the contemporary, which I think is remarkably well presented - for one of the clearest examples, every time a character (Jonathan, basically) has an emotional or psychological breakdown, rather than try to help, he is by and large told to shut up because other people have to wake up in the morning. I personally found this intensely heartbreaking as he fell further and further into this spiral of despair begetting more despair as he grows increasingly hopeless, clinging to his suitcase of novelty items as a crutch. Something consistent. Or perhaps he is deluding himself and believing he could make himself happy with them as he so often tells others is his profession. Everything is open to myriad interpretations, but to say there isn't anything there is to do the film an incredible injustice.

And even if that doesn't interest you, there's still so much to always take in in the frame, even if you ignore rich thematic meanings just for the visual splendor of it, I'd say there's so much here that should command respect, even if you disagree with my outright adoration.

But to each their own. Can't all love the same things, life would lose its luster even faster than it already does.

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This, sir, is one of the best, more reasonable and beautifully put replies I´ve come to read in these parts.

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I think the word 'pretentious' just about sums it up. I agree that everyone has their own taste but sometimes the word 'Arthouse' is used as an excuse to serve up rubbish. Just MY opinion.

Oh gravity, thou art a heartless bitch!

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It's strange how many people use the word pretentious for a film that is different from the norm, and don't seem to know what pretentious means. Nobody uses the word art house anymore. Well almost nobody. Just MY opinion.


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Ah! good old "Pretentious", more than an epiteth, its the comfort object of the insecure half-wits...

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I respect anyone that uses a Le Samourai picture as their avatar.

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I did say it was my opinion, or is no one but you allowed one? As for the word 'pretentious'. It is apt. It pretends to be something it isn't (again, MY opinion) ie entertaining
Oh gravity, thou art a heartless bitch!

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That is incorrect. Pretentious means something else entirely.



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No, it is not. No, it does not.

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Whoops, My apologies, I stand corrected. In fact I sit down corrected as well.

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The fact you don't understand the film is your problem not the films'. How can anybody who still uses the word douche be taken seriously.



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There's no way this movie WON'T alienate mass numbers. It's inherently made to be dismissed by a majority, especially Americans. The people who dislike it aren't wrong, but I love that these movies by Andersson exist. It's increasingly hard to find anything made thoughtfully without an apparent shred of pandering to some audience.

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Indeed, this movie would alienate the majority of any audience worldwide, even in Sweden no doubt. I thought it was brilliant, one of the most refreshing looks on life I've ever seen

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The fact that you "understand" the film is your problem, not the people who don't. Everyone has a right to express their own opinion, not an opinion that someone else deems to be the only truth.

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Why is understanding a film a problem? That doesn't make sense. Everybody does has a right to an opinion, when did I mention that mine is the only truth? You really should think before you reply.



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You blew it, man! You just had to go and understand the film, didn't you!!

I can assure you my intentions are strictly horrible

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You need to get used to Roy's unique style...It's not in the dialog or plot. It's in the images. I wasn't bored a single second. There is so much to find in every frame! 10/10

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I just saw it last night. I liked it. I'm not a hipster, and hope I'm not a douche. It took me a while, but I think I can sum up what's going on in the film, not that anybody gives a rip.



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Yet you don't, confirming my opinion about the supporters of this film. ;)

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Are you the type that expects classical music at a rock concert and then complains afterwards it was too loud? Because your criticism is of that type.


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