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Why is it in both 'Sparkles' Delores never has a love interest?


In the 1976 version and the new version Delores never has a love interest. is it because she's too snooty or stuck up or however you would describe her personality? I remember in the orginal version she sleeps with Satin, but it's just so she can bust him and report him for drugs and also in the original I do remember a guy talking to her and he says she's mean and her sisters are nice and she tells him to get out of her face. She seems like a no nonsense person. Sparkle and Sister had relationships, is it because they were nicer?

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I just don't think the script needed any more characters to be honest. Also in this remake version of Sparkle, Dee is focused on going to school, that is her main priority. Plus she is the youngest of the sisters, so she really doesn't need a man. haha.

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No,Delores wasn't the youngest, Sparkle is.

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No, Dee is the youngest in the new remake of Sparkle. Sister and Sparkle had the same father, but Dee had a different father. If Sister was the oldest, then that would mean that Sparkle is the second oldest, since they have the same father.

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Everyone had their role in the movie (no pun intended) and Dee's role was that of a woman ahead of her time. In both movies Dee is independent and not concerned with getting/having a man. She has seen what "getting a man" can do for you via Sister. She is rocking the afro and embracing the "black is beautiful" movement that started in the late 60's early 70's.

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Jayindapub,not necessarily, I know of people (my three cousins),the oldest and the youngest have the same mom and dad and the middle has a different mother. My uncle was with my aunt and had their oldest daughter, then they broke up and he started dating another woman and had a baby with her, then got back with his oldest child's mother and had their third child together then got married.

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In the 1976 version and the new version Delores never has a love interest. is it because she's too snooty or stuck up or however you would describe her personality? I remember in the orginal version she sleeps with Satin, but it's just so she can bust him and report him for drugs and also in the original I do remember a guy talking to her and he says she's mean and her sisters are nice and she tells him to get out of her face. She seems like a no nonsense person. Sparkle and Sister had relationships, is it because they were nicer?

Delores never slept with Satin. It was the flunkie who said she was mean that she got the drug delivery info from.
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Oh, I thought it was Satin, oh well w/e.

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My brother is the father of his ex girlfriends 2 kids.The oldest and the youngest and her middle child has a different father.

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I think it is unfortunate that in all the rewriting of this script that they didn't give Delores a love interest or make her more desirable. It stood out to me that in both versions the darker skinned sister did not have a love interest. She was not seen as desirable in the remake. She even had to point out to Stix in the remake that he hadn't acknowledged her when talking about the group. This was not necessary in the original because they all hung out together before performing as a group, so Stix already knew her.

I did not like that the dark skinned sister in both versions was the one with the off-putting attitude. In the original, the flunkie who Delores slept with even asked why her sisters were nice and she wasn't. In the remake, the sassy, unapproachable, "independent" attitude that Delores displays feeds into negative stereotypes about dark skinned black women. Her lack of a love interest in the original could have easily been rewritten in the remake. She could have found a black power brother who appreciated her afro and they both could have gone off to medical school or he could have been a doctor with a clinic in the community. They selected a beautiful actress to play the role of Delores in the remake, yet they basically ignore her beauty in the film, while Sister and Sparkle - the two light-skinned sisters played by bi-racial actresses - are constantly seen as beautiful and desirable in the film.

The writers saw fit to give everyone else more of a storybook, PC makeover for the remake. They could have given Delores a better storyline as well. Instead, we were reminded of the negative perceptions of dark skinned black women as attitudinal and undesirable as love interests. Quite frankly, I am tired of the "strong black woman" caricature as well. I am especially tired of seeing it embodied in film and television by dark skinned black women. A woman can be intelligent and assertive without giving off the whole, "I don't need a man" vibe. I wish the writers would have considered this when writing Delores' character.

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bellaalma, I totally agree with your post.

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bellaalma, YES!!! I thought exactly what you posted as I was watching the movie. It's bad enough when white filmmakers create the subliminal messages about dark-skinned black women. It's worse when black filmmakers continue with the same stereotype.



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Well said.







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Actually Tika sumpter exuded sexy during the movie more so than the Original Delores, did you see her dresses during the montages GIRRRRRRRRRRL so provocative. I didn't really see it as a caricature more so she was her mother's child she had the same sass as Whitney's character Emma. Plus at least this time she had a reason not to have a man the child was trying to get into Medical school. I'm happy they didn't add a love interest for her. Not everyone needs to be love sick in a movie she can meet her a cute doctor friend in med school anyway ;).

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are you serious?? you sound a little petty and childlike to be honest. " sparkle and sister got boyfriends so delores should get one too!" [not what u said but its how u basically sound] delores was depicted as a smart independent medical student and u are complaining about THAT?? she was the only sister with a backbone! she didnt need a man to help her reach her goals she did it on her own. sparkle was weak and couldnt get off her big sister's tit until she got locked up. and sister was a gold digging hoe who let satin treat her like crap and hook her on drugs. but u think delores got the short end of the stick in this film?? LOL!! unbelievable!! so should lite skinned women be offended by Sister and sparkle's depictions too??

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@bellaalma, I get what you're saying, however, I wanted to smack some sense into everybody in the movie EXCEPT Dee. And I was glad to see they cast a very beautiful woman in her part although it was not acknowledged by anyone in the film. But maybe they were trying to stay true to the time period by showing how stupid people were that if it wasn't clothed in yalla it wasn't beautiful. I'm light skinned so light people, don't get all bent out of shape. It's true. I have seen that bias but I do believe people are opening their eyes.

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RamonathePest Diana Ross and Donna Summer aint yellow and had many black men crazy about them. Same for many black female singers in the 60's and 70's. Especially the 70's during the "Black and proud"/Black Panther movement.

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There were a few, yes. But in general, during the time, the majority of people, black and white placed a shallow value on a black woman being light. And my sister was an active Black PAnther member and many Panthers visited our home everyday and our local rec center. The Panthers were instrumental in changing how we perceived our own beauty, yes. But the context of the movie is, that was just beginning to happen. Hence, Dee's afro not being accepted by most of the characters. You misconstrued my entire point by picking two women and by the way, Donna Summer is circa 1980's, not the late '50's and 60's of this movie.

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Other 60's black singers like the Sherelle's, Aretha and other Motown singers in the 60's. They were not whiteskinned and many black men loved them.

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Nobody made Aretha a sex symbol. I am not advocating the attitude. I'm glad it has changed, but it is a fact that's how it was when it came to who was cast in movies and CONSIDERED beautiful. It was a big deal when Lola Falana broke through to represent a product in commercials not geared strictly to black women and to represent beauty. The fact that she was black was a big deal, the fact that she was brown-skinned created news articles!

You can try to make it sound like I'm talking about black men, but I'm not. We're talking about the way Hollywood has depicted what THEY THINK (and thought in the past) is black beauty.

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Well may be not Aretha but Motown had many women who were not whiteskinned that was seen as sexy in the 60's like the Supremes. Most of the singers signed to Motown were not whiteskinned.

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You seem to be trying to make an argument where there is none. And I never said anything about "white"skinned women.

Also, the Supremes were never considered sex symbols. I lived the era and I know.

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I'm talking about the skintone of Jordin Sparks (high yellow)

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What made divas like Aretha, Dionne, Diana etc. appealing was the fact that they were polished and dignified. Berry Gordy hired people to polish the choreography and overall image of both the men and women who were signed with him. Back then it was about black celebrities breaking away from stereotypes. Carmen Jones made Dorothy Dandridge a star, but her role was also stereotypically sexual.

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Not every character needs a love interest. In both versions Delores was focused on school and she is not known for her happy personality. In the original she doesn't want to end up like her mother so she leaves at the end to go to school and this one she leaves for medical school.


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I agree with Bellaalma, although, I did like the fact that her sister was able to see through the trivial life style that her older sister fell victim to. Also, Delores is quite beautiful but she didn't need to sell it and that's why she was perceived as cold.

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While all of the sisters were beautiful, I think Dee was the prettiest and Sister was the least attractive. Sister was desirable, but she put herself out there to BE desirable. Sparkle was just an innocent girl who was pretty and extremely talented. Really, the only one who desired her was Stix though. Dee had a plan and she wasn't letting anyone get in the way of that. She was by far my favorite. I guess that is a little biased considering she reminds me of myself because I too want to be a doctor. I have her personality, though I look more like Jordin Sparks. With that being said, I can assume that Dee may have had some relationships that have not worked out because her goal is more important to her. I know I haven't had any relationships that have lasted very long in the past 3 years and that's because I wasn't putting the same amount of effort into them as I do with school.

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