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The Grail (many spoilers)


What a buffoon!

Luckily Ashley overlaid the medieval "grail map" at just the right scale so that the star covered America. If he hadn't used just the right scale, he might be searching for the grail in Central Africa, or maybe in the Atlantic Ocean.

1) he doesn't know when this "map" was engraved. It could have been before America was "discovered" by Columbus.

2) were medieval europeans familiar with the concept of an equator or where it fell in their yet unexplored world?

Freemason towers:

Ashley claims that the Plymouth tower and Bunker Hill Monument have "undeniable similarities" to the "grail map." But, only in that the carving shows some ambiguous lines that might be a tower, and that the two towers in Mass are towers.

Also, he completely ignores the fact that the urn IS an urn, complete with an inscription for the deceased "J.W. Aged 33."

Ashley only sees what he wants to see, and that is very dangerous when you are trying to discover truth.

Washington DC

AMAZING! There was a straight line between the Washington Monument and the Masonic Temple. Could there be anything BUT a straight line between two points on a map????????

After a little internet searching, the DC masonic temple constrcution began in 1911, whereas the Washington Monument (1848) and Capitol building (1793)began construction much earlier. Seems like (not clear) the temple was in a different location during the earlier constructions, so Ashley's use of the Masonic square to lead to the Capitol seems totally arbitrary.

Finally: Again, LUCKILY, Ashley claims the grail was melted down and incorporated into the original Statue of Liberty torch (where is the evidence for that? Would anyone really destroy a 1800 year old relic?). Of course this is impossible to verify.



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Dear wtfrubbish:

You are correct and that is the tip of the iceberg, of Ashley's "Weird History".


This is off the top of my head. We all agree that the Templars were a military religious Order sanctioned by the Pope, that were accountable only to the Pope. A modern Order would be The Society Of Jesus.

OK, Philip IV of France was in debt to the Order, on an impossible amount of money, which he never intended to repay. The Templars main HQ, was France. The best way for this debt to be cancelled was to "kill the bankers, the loan officers". Philip in 1307, had the Order, arrested on trumped charges of just about anything that would incriminate and insure the Templars' dissolution.

That charge was NEVER signed by the Pope. Philip just took matters into his own hands.

There is not any proof, (hard core proof), that the Templars = Free Masons. That some knights escaped to Scotland, with the grail in their possession. Point of fact, Ashley said Joseph of Arimathea, squirreled the grail to England (?). Some people can not even agree on what the actual grail was? Chalice? Mary of Magdela? What?

There are so many holes in this story, it blows one's mind. It would take a quite a catalog just to list them all.

Here is one more theory, the Grail is at the bottom of Oak Island.

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I agree with you on the theory of the Grail being melted down to form the Statue of Liberty is very preposterous. Who in their right mind would ever do a thing like that? Melting the Holy Grail would be sacrilege and wasteful. I can't imagin a spirituel gaurdian of the Grail ever doing that, destroying a devine relic like that. And why would anyone even bother to waste away the wonderous healing powers of the Grail like that by destroying it?

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Dear DarklordRB:

Perfect!

I could not have said it any better!


Also La Merica?

Whatever happened to world famous explorer, cartographer and financier, Amerigo Vespucci?

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Dear vanguard59:

Thankyou for agreeing with me. Much appreciated.

And while I find some of what Ashley Cowie says illuminating, like Solomon's Ring being given to him by St. Michael the Arch Angel, and Mose's Staff being made from the Tree of Life, and the powers of Excalibur being able to blind enemies with light and hurl and shot fire at them, etc. There are many things that he says that are completely unilluminating like the Pope having Solomon's Ring and as such with the Holy Grail. Plus I agree with you that he misses a chunk of crucial information and side steps much of it.

All in all I just watch the show to hear some of the details I didn't know about the relics that i'm unaware of, or to hear the interesting legend behind them, that, and to see all the interesting destinations he goes to. I figured out that he'll never find anything so I shouldn't hold my breath, and I should just pay no attention to his ramblings and some of his apparent disregard for key facts and information.

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Dear DarklordRB:

Glad we are on the same page.












PS.........My Bro thinks Kinga is Hawt! Ashley, is not bad from my perspective.

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The methodology for these ventures is absolute hogwash.

I was done with this show after the premiere, but I HAD to watch this one to see how many leaps of faith he made based on nothing more than unsubstantiated 2nd hand stories.

Problems.

1.) Nobody can even agree on what the grail is.

2.) There was not a single shred of physical evidence to support his continuous stream of whacked theories. In order to do anything close to a scientific investigation, you have to have SOMETHING to go on. It'd be one thing if there were a few small gaps that he filled in with theory, but every step of his 'discovery' was based on 2nd hand nonsense.

3.) As others have alluded to, the grail, like every other item he's searching for, have been searched for for centuries, by hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, many, I'm sure, with a bit more credibility than this clown.



When this show started, I mean, obviously he's not going to find anything. I at least thought it'd be interesting to see the methodology he used to even begin to conduct a search for something that's been lost for centuries. Turns out, he uses none. He just makes some wild guesses, and fills in the rest with myths that have been handed down.

Church shaped like a cross? The ark HAD to have been here! There's no other explanation!

Idiot.

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