That prefer TASM over Over the original trilogy and thought TASM2 was my 2nd Favorite Spider-Man movie
shareI prefer TASM movies over the original trilogy too. The only movie out of the original trilogy that I like is the first movie.
shareYou are probably right with these stats.
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I agree. Really the only complaints I see are people basically saying it isn't anything like the Raimi films. I'm tired of a lot of these complaints and will just list the ones that bother the the most.
1. "Nobody but Mary Jane should ever be a love interest in a movie." Well then you haven't read the original 60s and 70s comics where he dates Betty Brant, Liz Allen, and Gwen Stacy.
2. "Peter acted too cool because he rode a skateboard." To be fair he's riding a skateboard to school while most everyone else is driving a car to school.
3. This one wil be long. "Garfield wasn't nerdy enough! Peter Parker is supposed to be a shy awkward nerd!" Then you only know Peter from the Raimi movies cause even in most cartoons he isn't that nerdy or awkward all the time. Toby played him as a shy and awkward nerd cause that's what the writers and Raimi wanted. But in the actual comics he is not that shy or awkward especially after the spider bite.
He actually does end up flirting with both Betty Brant and Liz Allen through out highschool. Later on he does flirt with Gwen Stacy as well. He also stands up to Flash in the comics and that scene where he humiliates him with the basketball in ASM 1 is similar to a scene in the comics where he takes out Flash with one punch to the head in a boxing match in front of the whole school. People can prefer the Raimi films all they want but to me Toby's Peter is nothing like the guy I've been reading about for years.
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It annoys me when people say ''Andrew Garfield was the better Spider-Man, and Tobey Maguire was the better Peter Parker''. Peter Parker is not Clark Kent where he has two different personlities in and out of costume. What people don't know/forget is that Peter can be funny and charismatic OUT of costume too.
shareExactly! Peter Parker was an awkward teen, sure. But anyone who felt Spider-Man and Peter Parker have an alternate persona either hasn't read the books or doesn't remember them all that well.
Spider-Man allows Peter Parker to let loose due his interacting with criminals instead of friends, but the personality is very much the same: quick wit and sarcasm.
I suppose they also forget that his very first appearance before the spider-bite showed us his asking out a girl for 'the umpteenth time' (her words).
I didn't know any shy awkward nerds that constantly asked out girls when I was in school.
Peter Parker is supposed to be a shy awkward nerd!"
Toby's Peter is nothing like the guy I've been reading about for years.
Completely agree with everything you said.
shareThere are more than just those 4 complaint though... Here is a list of pretty much all the complaints I found (I have posted it before but hey...)
- the script... Nothing sounded like something real people would say. Especially the love scenes and villain monologues. The tedious love banter seemed to be written by a guy who has only watched bad romcoms, was hung over and had a 5 hour deadline.
- The thing with the planes almost crashing just so there would be a "countdown suspense scene" was so irrelevant I was actually confused why they were showing it.
- The "German torture scientist cliche"....Kafka
- He tortures the guy made out of electricity by inducing electric shocks...what?
- Electros motivation: Cops are shooting at me, Spiderman is trying to help and tries to get to know me (all I ever wanted).... oh no his head is on the screens now AAARRGHH let's kill him (and not the cops who are activly trying to snipe me in the head). He adores Spiderman, worships him at every turn but suddenly he turns against him just cause his face was on the screen and another guy tried to shoot him.
- The electricity meter on the side of electros head.... He can't even see it himself. What kind of meter is it? It only has 5 bars.....
- Electro becomes powerful enough to evaporate water but a thin neoprene suit is too much of an insulator...
-his web shooters are able to withstand the shock but whole towers, who's purpose it is to store and transfer electrical power get obliterated.
- How would blowing him up work when we have clearly seen that he has no physical form if he chooses to.
-why was the energy too much for him to handle? he was able to store all the power before, why not again?
- How the cops react to electro: Spidey is obviously calming him down so the best course of action is to shoot him in the head even though it has already been established that bullets don't work.
-Harrys motivation: "Give me blood" "no" "you evil", he takes the venom, it doesn't work .... soooo kill spiderman since he was right all along? What?
- Supersuit that can heal him....
- The way they killed electro. They pretty much shout their plan to each other but electro still can't figure it out? And all the electricity of the city flows through peter but he just shakes it off while a man made of electricity dies????
- Gwens Ghost dad
- breaking up so that he could stalk her so they could get back together...
- Gwen not reacting at all to the stalking...every day..it's not cute, it's super creepy
- The fact that only Peter could become Spiderman is a lame chosen one story and undermines the concept that it could have happened to anyone, which is what Spider-man is all about.
- Every scene where aunt may and Peter talk, seems like it's written by someone who is too old to remember how you were as a kid and too young to have teenagers of his own.
-The elevator scene with harry and gwen: "everything is always complicated with Peter"...you haven't seen him in 8 years, I doubt he was complicated at 11!
- The fact that everything is Oscorp related
- The fact that even though everything is Oscorp related we never heard Peter say anything about Harry being his best friend.
-The fact that Norman allowed Peter to be Harrys best friend even though he murdered his Father
-the fact that Peter refers to Harry as his best friend even though they met up once in 8 years.
-I never once bought that Andrew is a science geek with superpowers. He never seems overly intelligent.
-harry is a git from the get go so we (or I) never sympathize with him or his sickness. It obviously wasn't going to kill him right then and there.
-Barriers and spectators materilizing out of thin air everytime something happenes
-Gwen finds her way through half new york in a copcar during a blackout (with traffic and riots and so on vs spiderman who is faster than a car on a highway)and is able to hit electro with that car...
-Gwen being able to turn off the grid even though she works in the bio-medicinal part of Oscorp... Oh wait it was a convenient red button.
-If you read the comics it was soooooooooo obvious Gwen would die this movie (as soon as she gave that life and death speach) and from there on out everything just seemed like a build up for her death: look we are giving her a bright future so her death has more meaning (i know this is a nerd complaint)
- After her death aunt May gives the weirdest: forget about her speach so that we can't land on a somber note because god forbid if Gwens death actually meant something
- Uncle Bens killer? wait that was a storyarc once?
- emo stalking, can't say this enough. Just think about it. If this were any other movie, then this behavior would be flat out creepy. If you still had feelings for your ex (who has superpowers and could break you like a twig) and met him again to maybe get back together and he/she told you they'd watched you every day I would get out of there as fast as I could. And this is the best case scenario. Peter doesn't truly know how Gwen feels. She could hate and resent him and he would be an even creepier stalker. It's a terrible role-moddle and only makes it worse that it actually worked. "hey kids if you have feelings for someone, you should devote lots of time in following them around and then confessing it to them. If it works for Spiderman it should work for you!"
- Spidey toying with a maniac in a car full of explosives so that he can run over several cabs and buses instead of stopping him from the get go.
- Rhino...just...read every other comment about him..why would Oscorp give a billion Dollar Suit to a guy for him to rob a bank? Spiderman wasn't even showing up anymore, how is giving a billion dollar suit, that can easily be traced back to Oscorp, to a random idiot going to draw out Spiderman? The plan is so incredibly stupid and is only made worse by the fact that it actually worked.
- The whole Peters father backstory in general together with the opening scene could have been left out and nothing would have changed.
- Andrew as Peter Parker in general (but that's probably just me)
- The fact that we already know that every supervillain in the near future will be Oscorp.
-the web turning into a hand when he was trying to save gwen.
-every scene just felt like a plot device to get to the next major scene. As if the executives and writers had thought of two movies with cool scenes and just somehow meshed them together without regard for structure or narrative flow.
-the whole movie felt like a giant toy commercial
-again...magical healing suit???? First of all how did it heal Harry? why did the venom give harry rapid desease growth instead of turning him into a giant spider-human hybrid (like the lizzard guy from TASM1)? How could the suit counteract a poison that has had no clinical testing?
-Gwen is able to cut the spiderweb with a fingernail scissors... and is then able to steal a copcar...and so on yada yada.
-weird edditing choices throughout the whole movie.
-story was all over the place with little payoff to each arc
-Peter defeats electro the first time and suddenly gets the urge to solve dad mystery...why? was it just time for that to happen in the movie?
-Aunt Mays nurse story arc
- The oscorp lab voice telling the scientists what their job is...
- The bullied kid confronting Rhino... he walked up 10 meters or so and no cop even attempted to stop him. Then spidey shows up and Rhino just lets them talk for another minute..wtf??
- why was Harry in such a hurry with the venom? he literally has the best researchers of the world at his fingertips to just make one or two simple scans. he wasn't gonna die in the next five minutes.
- folder named "secret projects"
- the way he finds that folder
-The worst spider-man theme I have ever heard. it sounded like something that would be playing in the back of a bad Superman show.
-It ended right at the beginning of a major super villain fight. That was in the trailer but I thought they would finish it in the movie considering The Rhino is a second class Spidey Villain.
-Peter Parker suddenly works at the Daily Bugle. Don't even bother to show us when or how he got the job much less even show us JJJ.
-Vulture wings and Doc Ock tentacles are already made so we don't have to even bother with their origins. Just pick two random guys to fill the parts like
-Electricity fixes Dillon's teeth somehow...
-Harry can't recognize Peter's voice under the Spidey mask after he hung out with him the day before and they are supposed to be best friends all of a sudden.
-Electro and Harry both had super villain suits made, fitted, and waiting for them to wear.
-Norman Osborn was a waste. One of Spider-Man's greatest foes and he is only given 10 minutes of screen time and dies off screen. Imagine if the Joker was treated that way.
- door just randomly opens to the magical healing suit
- The whole override was pushing a button twice? couldn't Gwen just have told him that? Did she really have to be there for that super complex mechanism?
- Peter could have given Harry the blood and told him to make a few tests first.
- Why did Peter Parker's dad hide subway tokens in his calculator? Even if they were some special "get into the secret" lab coins, it would have been less suspicious to just carry them in a wallet.
-how did he build a whole secret lab in a subwaystation? Do you know how heavy some of that equipment is (not to mention expensive).If oscorp would have known they would have ransacked it. also, why disguise the lab as a subway car when there are windows you can look into and see...hey there's science *beep* in there. At least put some shutters in front of it.
- Why did Peter's dad upload his confession to his secret lab, where the only person who could find it was someone who broke his calculator and made a great research to randomly find the station? Wouldn't it have made more sense to send it to the press or just spread it over the net?
- Why, after being accepted to Oxford, would anyone decide to fly immediately to England without saying goodbye to her family, friends or loved ones, dealing with her job at Oscorp or other social engagements, or even packing?? How did she even get a flight at such short notice overseas?
-And lastly: How does Peter know where she is in traffic so that she can see the message and he can sweep her up seconds later. What if she had been at the airport? What if she hadn't looked out of the window? what if she was at an angle and couldn't see her? how did spiderman know where she was? It must have taken him some time to find her go to the opposite bridge, make the letters and so on... unles she was stalking again...which would still be creepy.
There are more people who like this version than the Raimi version than you may think.
Most that like this version just arent as vocal unlike those who have multiple user accounts to troll these boards repeating the same(generally redundant) negative commentary as some folks do.
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you're not the only one
shareI do too, much better films, the earlier Spider-Man movies are way overrated
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